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Poke Holes for more FAE? * 1
    #26611991 - 04/19/20 03:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hi everyone!

Thanks for all the useful help I've received here.

I'm currently on my second flush of this Mazatapec Grow Kit and like with the first flush, I'm noticing fuzzy-feet on the mushrooms.

The grow bag is slightly open the whole day. Should I also poke some holes near the substrate so they get more FAE or should I just leave it like it is?

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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Farnaby1984]
    #26612007 - 04/19/20 03:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Fuzzy feet indicates low RH I believe, which could be caused by too much FAE. Maybe mist a little more attentively, If you had an FC not a bag I'd suggest some damp paper towels as they work a treat. All that said, don't worry too much about fuzzy feet its not a huge problem by any means.


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Htaeh] * 1
    #26612016 - 04/19/20 03:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Your conditions seem pretty dialed in with fruits like that. I wouldn’t worry too much about the fuzzy feet. A very small increase in FAE is all that would be needed but you’d be fine without increasing as well judging by the look of those fruits.


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #26612021 - 04/19/20 03:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So fuzz is not RH related but the FAE correct?


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Htaeh] * 1
    #26612024 - 04/19/20 03:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Genetics as well. For instance there is Melmac PE that is notorious for having fuzzy feet as part of its genetics. But yes, it can also be from lack of FAE. Usually when it’s from lack of FAE, the fruits will look longer and less healthy. These seem pretty decent, IMO. Looks like perhaps surface conditions weren’t dialed in at one point and/or messed with too much. Looks fine now, though.


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #26612028 - 04/19/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you both!

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Genetics as well. For instance there is Melmac PE that is notorious for having fuzzy feet as part of its genetics. But yes, it can also be from lack of FAE. Usually when it’s from lack of FAE, the fruits will look longer and less healthy. These seem pretty decent, IMO. Looks like perhaps surface conditions weren’t dialed in at one point and/or messed with too much. Looks fine now, though.




Yes, I think that was the cause, because on both flushes I noticed a tendency from pins to grow either on the sides of the substrate or on the surface but always near the sides.

I think the center of the surface doesn't hold moisture so well.

I'm fanning more often but it seems to have no effect on the fuzzy feet and that's why I was considering poking some holes.


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Farnaby1984]
    #26613053 - 04/19/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I went ahead and poked a few small holes in the grow bag.

Don't know if that will be enough for better FAE, but since everything else seems going well and everyone told me not to worry too much about the fuzzy-feet I don't want to do something too drastic :smile:

I'm also seeing new pins that are growing. Don't know if they are the third flush or if they are starting to grow because of better surface conditions.


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Farnaby1984]
    #26613169 - 04/19/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It's probably liking the increase FAE. Whenever I've used plastic bags over my shoeboxes in my past, I would just poke around 5 or 6 holes quickly around the sides and top and that would do it. Sometimes, more can be better. Just don't let it dry out and you're golden! :yesnod:


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #26613197 - 04/19/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It's probably liking the increase FAE. Whenever I've used plastic bags over my shoeboxes in my past, I would just poke around 5 or 6 holes quickly around the sides and top and that would do it. Sometimes, more can be better. Just don't let it dry out and you're golden! :yesnod:




Nice :smile: I'll maybe do a shoebox next time, since I've found a tek that's supposed to work without a PC.

I'm misting whenever I see the droplets have evaporated. I think I didn't have the moisture/FAE balance figured out so now it seems a bit matted and like the droplets dont penetrate through the upper layer, but it's probably doing something nonetheless.


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Farnaby1984]
    #26613220 - 04/19/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Get a PC! Shoeboxes ftw :biggrin:


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Htaeh] * 1
    #26613254 - 04/19/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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So fuzz is not RH related but the FAE correct?



Fuzzy feet happens when it’s too humid.. more fae to reduce fuzzy fett


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Htaeh]
    #26613270 - 04/19/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Get a PC! Shoeboxes ftw :biggrin:




Haha first I want to be sure I'll be using it frequently so I'll try without it first.

Found this tek that's supposed to work without PC:
https://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/comments/8e7g6n/how_to_grow_bulk_without_a_pc_or_brf_cakes_broke/


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: B21]
    #26613281 - 04/19/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

@B21 - Hey can you tell me what's going on with the pic of the punch bowl petri in your sig?


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Farnaby1984]
    #26613320 - 04/19/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

To each their own, I wish you luck!


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26613331 - 04/19/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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@B21 - Hey can you tell me what's going on with the pic of the punch bowl petri in your sig?



That’s a dmt extraction broski


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: B21]
    #26613335 - 04/19/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Want that in my life, nice one. Before endeavouring to shroom it was what I was going to attempt.


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Htaeh]
    #26613382 - 04/19/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ah. That makes more sense.


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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26614321 - 04/20/20 04:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Update from today:

I woke up to find most of the mushrooms where ready to be harvested. I let a couple of side mushrooms and one on top to develop a little more.

There are new pins on the surface of the substrate developing (as you can see on the first picture). Should I still do a dunk when I harvest the remaining mushrooms or would that be bad for those pins?

This flush also has a bit of a weird smell, but a lot less intense than on the first flush. Maybe it's just how cubes smell when they're fresh. It's like a mushroomy smell but not a tempting one lol.

I zoomed in on the third picture so you can see a close-up.

Thanks a lot for all your help :smile:







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Re: Poke Holes for more FAE? [Re: Farnaby1984]
    #26614325 - 04/20/20 04:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

established pins don't mind a dunk. I don't know whether its advised to dunk per flush, but if it has been recommended to you, pins will be fine!

Mush looks good enjoy :smile:


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    #26614970 - 04/20/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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established pins don't mind a dunk. I don't know whether its advised to dunk per flush, but if it has been recommended to you, pins will be fine!

Mush looks good enjoy :smile:




Thank you! Yeah, they do look good. However, as a bit of time passed after harvesting them, I noticed that weird smell again, like mushrooms that don't smell tasty at all lol. Maybe I'm just being paranoid and that's just how these cubes smell, but I would definitely say they smell worse than grocery store mushrooms.

If they were contaminated by bacteria, there should have been other signs and I wouldn't have gotten such healthy looking mushrooms, right?

Also, I did the dunk and think I damaged the pins from the surface of the substrate :frown: should I just get rid of them after the dunk?

Thank you!


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