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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #26614750 - 04/20/20 09:21 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Lol at "breaking into the country."

How is disobeying police orders different from disobeying a lawful order to stay at home?  If anything police orders have less force of authority because they aren't decided by elected officials.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Enlil]
    #26614754 - 04/20/20 09:23 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Lol at "breaking into the country."

How is disobeying police orders different from disobeying a lawful order to stay at home?  If anything police orders have less force of authority because they aren't decided by elected officials.



Cuz in this case its a protest


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Enlil]
    #26614757 - 04/20/20 09:24 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Sheriffs are elected tho.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
    #26614764 - 04/20/20 09:27 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Yes, the ONE person who holds the title of Sheriff.  Not the deputy sheriffs that actually pull people over, though.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: MagicMush123] * 2
    #26614768 - 04/20/20 09:29 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Lol at "breaking into the country."

How is disobeying police orders different from disobeying a lawful order to stay at home?  If anything police orders have less force of authority because they aren't decided by elected officials.



Cuz in this case its a protest



So, when a black man thinks he's being harassed for his skin color and disobeys the officers in protest, that's just the "colored folk causing problems."  When white people put others at risk during a pandemic because they disagree with a lawful order, that's a "protest."

You must be in pretty good shape with all those mental gymnastics you're doing.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Enlil]
    #26614769 - 04/20/20 09:30 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Yes, the ONE person who holds the title of Sheriff.  Not the deputy sheriffs that actually pull people over, though.



Those aren't the ones who decide on police orders though...


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
    #26614779 - 04/20/20 09:33 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Yeah they are.  When an officer pulls you over and tells you to lie face down on the ground, the officer is the one who made that call...not an elected sheriff way back in some office at the county seat.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Enlil]
    #26614790 - 04/20/20 09:35 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Lol at "breaking into the country."

How is disobeying police orders different from disobeying a lawful order to stay at home?  If anything police orders have less force of authority because they aren't decided by elected officials.



Cuz in this case its a protest



So, when a black man thinks he's being harassed for his skin color and disobeys the officers in protest, that's just the "colored folk causing problems."  When white people put others at risk during a pandemic because they disagree with a lawful order, that's a "protest."

You must be in pretty good shape with all those mental gymnastics you're doing.



Protesting an individual officer vs protesting the government. Nice mental gymnastics enlil


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Enlil]
    #26614797 - 04/20/20 09:37 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

I thought we were referring to police officers enforcing COVID related orders.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
    #26614806 - 04/20/20 09:41 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Yeah, but not in the way that you're discussing now.  The meme was basically saying that right wingers use the argument that border jumpers should follow the law and that black people who resist arrest are responsible for beatings and shootings because they didn't follow police orders, but right wingers who disobey the covid orders are justified.  Mush then tried to distinguish the police order part with the covid order part by saying that the covid orders are being disobeyed in "protest."

So, the relevant "police order" being disobeyed by black people are the orders given on the side of the road during a traffic stop, etc.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Enlil]
    #26614810 - 04/20/20 09:44 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

I did not look at the meme, my bad guys. Carry on.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #26614811 - 04/20/20 09:44 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Protesting an individual officer vs protesting the government. Nice mental gymnastics enlil



So, you literally believe that protesting an order given by a single, unelected individual is wrong, but protesting an elected official's order is right?

Okay...I ORDER YOU TO GIVE ME ALL OF YOUR MONEY.  DON'T PROTEST, NOW.

Seriously, dude.  People have a right to protest, but the right wing always seems to want to hurt people with their protests.  If they can't drive a dodge charger into a crowd of people, they'll just infect a bunch.  Why is it always violence with the right?


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Enlil]
    #26614826 - 04/20/20 09:51 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Protesting an individual officer vs protesting the government. Nice mental gymnastics enlil



So, you literally believe that protesting an order given by a single, unelected individual is wrong, but protesting an elected official's order is right?

Okay...I ORDER YOU TO GIVE ME ALL OF YOUR MONEY.  DON'T PROTEST, NOW.

Seriously, dude.  People have a right to protest, but the right wing always seems to want to hurt people with their protests.  If they can't drive a dodge charger into a crowd of people, they'll just infect a bunch.  Why is it always violence with the right?



You're comparing a planned protest to protesting on the spot. I dont even support the protest, just calling it like it is. And many right wing protests are peaceful, see the latest gun rally in Virginia


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #26614857 - 04/20/20 10:03 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And the funny thing is, when the black man protests on the side of the road, HE gets shot.  When a bunch of white people protest, everyone around them gets COVID.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Enlil]
    #26614900 - 04/20/20 10:20 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And the funny thing is, when the black man protests on the side of the road, HE gets shot.  When a bunch of white people protest, everyone around them gets COVID.



I guess this is the part where cite all the blm protests that ended in police shootings


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
    #26614915 - 04/20/20 10:27 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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How did Trump become president ? Was just he Rnc primary rigged to ?



Yes. Go back and analyze. If anything it's painfully obvious.



I don't know.  Part of Trump's appeal is that he's not part of the establishment.  That's the one thing I like about him.  He understands the silly foreign games the country is playing that trick otherwise smart people, and I respect him for that.

The problem is, at the end of the day, he's still all about helping the rich (and himself), which is one of the establishment's main goals.  Under Trump, billionaires now pay a lower percentage in taxes than the bottom 50% of the country does.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #26614936 - 04/20/20 10:36 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And the funny thing is, when the black man protests on the side of the road, HE gets shot.  When a bunch of white people protest, everyone around them gets COVID.



I guess this is the part where cite all the blm protests that ended in police shootings



Yeah, this is the part where you make an argument that it's okay for people to be violent because other people were violent.  That's really going to help your position.

Unless, of course, you want to openly make this about race, something you've been carefully dancing around, by saying that black people are violent against police, so clearly police should be violent against black people.


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: Enlil]
    #26614985 - 04/20/20 10:58 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And the funny thing is, when the black man protests on the side of the road, HE gets shot.  When a bunch of white people protest, everyone around them gets COVID.



I guess this is the part where cite all the blm protests that ended in police shootings



Yeah, this is the part where you make an argument that it's okay for people to be violent because other people were violent.  That's really going to help your position.

Unless, of course, you want to openly make this about race, something you've been carefully dancing around, by saying that black people are violent against police, so clearly police should be violent against black people.



No, i generally dont believe in violence. We were talking about how people were protesting and YOU kept bringing up how black individuals were being unjustly targeted by police. I merely said there's a difference between individuality protesting police orders on the side of the road on a whim, to people planning and showing up on mass to city hall or governor's home or something. A protest is a protest whether or not you agree with it. So who's the one making it about race?


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Re: How many of you want to reopen the US ASAP? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #26615022 - 04/20/20 11:12 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Yeah, planned harm to others is WAY more defensible than protesting "on a whim."


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    #26615465 - 04/20/20 02:02 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

I want to reopen the country ONLY WHEN we can ensure it won't cause more infections and deaths. If we all go back to work right now without testing and contact tracing we WILL set ourselves up for an infection and death rate that makes this look like child's play.

Then there's not going to be enough people alive to support all businesses through supply chains,medical workers aren't finite and it's not very easy to get new doctors and nurses. It would be the death of America and it really really pissed me off to see that even in a pandemic there large groups of people who don't care about the person next to them, aren't willing to sacrifice money to minimize death and further infections, it's evident in these protests.

Also if we said okay get back to work I guarantee it'll hit these protest circles that thinks it's all a hoax and will all become proverbial typhoid Mary's. Ignorance in this instances does mean the difference life and death. Each one of the protesters that didn't have a mask, said this was a hoax,blocked hospital staff with road blocking, they're all attempted murders imo.


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