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Covid-19 The end of life as we know it * 1
    #26611411 - 04/18/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I know it’s not the end of the world but our politicians *cough* Pelosi *cough* Schumer are obviously working for the paycheck of the minority as opposed to the approval of the majority. Before covid something like 80% of Americans were living paycheck to paycheck, now there are free food lines that are impossible to see the entirety of without a drone camera. People were struggling before but this will probably be the tipping point. Bezos’ net worth has increased 24 billion since the beginning of this pandemic and I along with the majority of others can’t pay our rent/mortgage. My bet is that pretty soon the US is gonna resemble a mad max movie.


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #26611426 - 04/18/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



yep...almost time to eat the rich
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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 9
    #26611436 - 04/18/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The rich will get richer, poor will get poorer. That's the way we're set up. Every major economic emergency or set back is an opportunity for congress to funnel billions to the corporate elite, donors, and companies they own stock in. We have a president who has literally rejected oversight on who he gives the money to. It's an illusion of democracy, and its future looks pretty bleak. A lot of those lost jobs are not coming back.

Maybe people will start voting for leaders who actually have their best interests at heart. How often do those people have the millions of dollars needed to win an election though?

The virus didn't break the system, it just knocked over a large part of the house of cards. It's exposing things that should've been corrected decades ago. How we rebuild will be interesting


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: feevers]
    #26611450 - 04/18/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:whathesaid:(unfortunately that's very true)


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26611459 - 04/18/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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yep...almost time to eat the rich
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If only the general population weren’t so reliant on our corporate overlords.

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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: feevers]
    #26611466 - 04/18/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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feevers said:
The rich will get richer, poor will get poorer. That's the way we're set up. Every major economic emergency or set back is an opportunity for congress to funnel billions to the corporate elite, donors, and companies they own stock in. We have a president who has literally rejected oversight on who he gives the money to. It's an illusion of democracy, and its future looks pretty bleak. A lot of those lost jobs are not coming back.

Maybe people will start voting for leaders who actually have their best interests at heart. How often do those people have the millions of dollars needed to win an election though?

The virus didn't break the system, it just knocked over a large part of the house of cards. It's exposing things that should've been corrected decades ago. How we rebuild will be interesting




I wonder how this will affect homelessness and housing. Automation is already beginning to take jobs from more “skilled” professions. What do we do with all those people who are willing to work but there’s no jobs for them. Will we just abandon those who can’t afford to live among the remaining working class?


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 2
    #26611474 - 04/18/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

it takes 2 years to become a registered nurse




just gonna leave that little tidbit of information there


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: morrowasted]
    #26611497 - 04/18/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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it takes 2 years to become a registered nurse




just gonna leave that little tidbit of information there




I’ve heard people in the medical field are pretty disgusted with the treatment the hospitals are giving them. The hospital near me won’t even let RN’s at the front desk wear homemade masks despite the shortage of ppe. It’ll be interesting to see if there’ll be a significant change in interest for people who aspired to work in that field due to the horrible preparation on the part of the hospitals.


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #26611502 - 04/18/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

oh yeah it's definitely like being a stripper or a soldier or a coal miner right now. you are totally selling your body


but its a job and if it becomes mad max there are going to much more grotesque ways in which people commonly sell their bodies


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: feevers]
    #26611518 - 04/18/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't totally disagree, but you got any skills/services/lucrative hobbies to provide anyone? You don't HAVE to rely on only the paycheck from your employer to make money in this country.


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 2
    #26611522 - 04/18/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeetusdeetus said:
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feevers said:
The rich will get richer, poor will get poorer. That's the way we're set up. Every major economic emergency or set back is an opportunity for congress to funnel billions to the corporate elite, donors, and companies they own stock in. We have a president who has literally rejected oversight on who he gives the money to. It's an illusion of democracy, and its future looks pretty bleak. A lot of those lost jobs are not coming back.

Maybe people will start voting for leaders who actually have their best interests at heart. How often do those people have the millions of dollars needed to win an election though?

The virus didn't break the system, it just knocked over a large part of the house of cards. It's exposing things that should've been corrected decades ago. How we rebuild will be interesting




I wonder how this will affect homelessness and housing. Automation is already beginning to take jobs from more “skilled” professions. What do we do with all those people who are willing to work but there’s no jobs for them. Will we just abandon those who can’t afford to live among the remaining working class?




The idea of technology advancement is to free people up to do better things. To make art and science and philosophy.

We're coming to a point where we need to phase out the industrial age model and embrace a resource based economy.


Where people are paid for taking good care of their children, the disabled, the elderly. Where someone is paid to maintain the road even if it's not profitable. Where someone is paid to write thoughtful ponderings of life. And someone is paid to check and cross check and compile science.


We're hellbent on trying to live like it's the early 20th century for no reason.


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: Eminence]
    #26611529 - 04/18/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't totally disagree, but you got any skills/services/lucrative hobbies to provide anyone? You don't HAVE to rely on only the paycheck from your employer to make money in this country.




I'm doing just fine. Many people are not and won't be, and haven't had the time or opportunity in life to aquire skills they can market independently.


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: feevers]
    #26611533 - 04/18/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm gonna end my life from boredom caused by covid 19 lockdown


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: Eminence]
    #26611543 - 04/18/20 09:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
oh yeah it's definitely like being a stripper or a soldier or a coal miner right now. you are totally selling your body


but its a job and if it becomes mad max there are going to much more grotesque ways in which people commonly sell their bodies




I remember a couple years ago I wished I could work from home but there’s not really anything lucrative enough to do full time besides camming. I know women have their fair share of issues but man I wish I could make money as a cam girl, the successful ones who put in the work can make bank apparently lmao.


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: Eminence]
    #26611549 - 04/18/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Eminence said:
I don't totally disagree, but you got any skills/services/lucrative hobbies to provide anyone? You don't HAVE to rely on only the paycheck from your employer to make money in this country.



I can work a weedeater quicker than most (without tearing up the grass) but that’s about it skill wise.


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26611557 - 04/18/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeetusdeetus said:
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feevers said:
The rich will get richer, poor will get poorer. That's the way we're set up. Every major economic emergency or set back is an opportunity for congress to funnel billions to the corporate elite, donors, and companies they own stock in. We have a president who has literally rejected oversight on who he gives the money to. It's an illusion of democracy, and its future looks pretty bleak. A lot of those lost jobs are not coming back.

Maybe people will start voting for leaders who actually have their best interests at heart. How often do those people have the millions of dollars needed to win an election though?

The virus didn't break the system, it just knocked over a large part of the house of cards. It's exposing things that should've been corrected decades ago. How we rebuild will be interesting




I wonder how this will affect homelessness and housing. Automation is already beginning to take jobs from more “skilled” professions. What do we do with all those people who are willing to work but there’s no jobs for them. Will we just abandon those who can’t afford to live among the remaining working class?




The idea of technology advancement is to free people up to do better things. To make art and science and philosophy.

We're coming to a point where we need to phase out the industrial age model and embrace a resource based economy.


Where people are paid for taking good care of their children, the disabled, the elderly. Where someone is paid to maintain the road even if it's not profitable. Where someone is paid to write thoughtful ponderings of life. And someone is paid to check and cross check and compile science.


We're hellbent on trying to live like it's the early 20th century for no reason.




I wish it were true that technology is going to free us but to me right now it seems overly romanticized. As long as we have a system that allows the wealthiest to pay for politicians that pass legislation permitting them to horde vast amounts of wealth while the rest of us scramble for crumbs we will never be “free.” I think Andrew Yangs idea of giving people enough to get by so they can occupy their time with more fulfilling things is the way to right this broken system. Allow people to work if they want more.


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: feevers]
    #26611562 - 04/18/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Eminence said:
I don't totally disagree, but you got any skills/services/lucrative hobbies to provide anyone? You don't HAVE to rely on only the paycheck from your employer to make money in this country.




I'm doing just fine. Many people are not and won't be, and haven't had the time or opportunity in life to aquire skills they can market independently.




I’m in that boat lol.


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 3
    #26611570 - 04/18/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Most developing countries will be just fine coming out of this. America, Europe and Japan are going to be in an economic disaster for years. China won't do that bad either.

I heard a good rumour about how during the 2008 economic crisis it was the drug lords of South America that needed to wash money that kept a couple of the banks going. No one was financing shit, but the cocaine kings still had boat loads of cash they needed to put through so there were real transactions to keep the rest of the system afloat. I guess the take away would be not to discount unlikely segments of the economy that will pull through and keep the rest of the system afloat as unlikely as it might seem.

Turns out there are real costs to offshoring everything and streamlining supply chains. The Soviets knew this well. They had some of the highest costs for agriculture out there because every town grew it's own staples of wheat, potatoes, some vegis. There was no mass specialization of producing all the meat for the country in a handful of slaughterhouses. The cost was much greater, but the system was much more resilient because of all the redundancy. Central planning always results in much more redundancy and higher costs because there isn't a streamlined monopoly. So everyone pays more for meat, and you'll eat less of it, but it would be available during the next unlikely crisis.

Going back to the Amazon example, sure Amazon is the king of retail right now, but they are like one solar flare from being turned into nothing. The tail end risk for many systems is extreme, under appreciated and can't be forecast because it hasn't happened before. You can't say if it's a once in 100 years, once in 50 years, or every other decade event because the data set is too small. Black swan events are everywhere.

Once the Covid health crisis is under control there will be massive societal upheavals. If you remember back to the Occupy Wallstreet movement, something like that will happen again. It might be much bigger, leading to more socialism and central planning of political systems in many parts of the world. Protectionism and domestic manufacturing might return to levels not seen since WW2. During the Peloponnesian War there was a plague that killed 2/3's of the people, but during these times of weakness it is a likely time for wars to break out. Iran is crippled from the virus, maybe North Korea, who knows what might play out. I feel the risk of a major war in the next few years in the Post-Virus world is underappreciated.

Finland has had a great pandemic response. As a neighbour to Russia they never forgot the lessons of the past and maintained their massive stockpiles of masks, medical equipment, food and other necessities. It is a waste of money to keep the bunkers full of equipment you need to replenish every 5 years, until you need it and then it pays off. Wimbilton, the tennis tournament paid for pandemic insurance for the last 17 years or something. I forget the amounts they paid, but it was a few million dollars a year and this year because of the cancellation they recouped all of their estimated revenues from a bank. It paid off handsomely compared to others.


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: morrowasted]
    #26611572 - 04/18/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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oh yeah it's definitely like being a stripper or a soldier or a coal miner right now. you are totally selling your body





Sounds like being a nurse is worse much more of a hazard than any of those jobs...

Morrow, aren't you a nurse or something? Do you know anything about nurses not being allowed to wear masks at the front desk?


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Re: Covid-19 The end of life as we know it [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26611574 - 04/18/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I mentioned it a couple months ago.  Apparently the “optics “ Look bad according to the hospital stock holders etc.

Yeah. Insanity.


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