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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26595434 - 04/12/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

They don't need cold, they need it to not be hot.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26595449 - 04/12/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ok for how long I'm in zone 6 and its only been getting in the 60's a few days a week


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Psyche delics] * 1
    #26595471 - 04/12/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I would sow asap. poppies can withstand frost fine in the sprout and seedling stages, however they hate high temperatures in these stages. Once they get into the cabbage stage they start to get more and more frost sensitive.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26595515 - 04/12/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The only other thing I can think is that the area I put them gets indirect morning light. It is southern exposer but they are next to a fence.
but realistically the soil probably wasn't kept moist enough. The sropharia in that bed are growing small and with cracked caps.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: bw86]
    #26598153 - 04/13/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If is doesn't rain, keep the area sprayed down with a hose until they germinate :thumbup:


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Allium] * 2
    #26599930 - 04/14/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)


peshawar, 4/14


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26599994 - 04/14/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hells Yeah :excited:


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26600568 - 04/14/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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peshawar, 4/14






Gorgeous :awesome: . Such a pure-white white lol. Like the epitome of "white" lol. Heavenly.





I'm guessing I'm still about 3 weeks away from my first blooms.

I gave the soil/plants some fermented nettle/mallow tea yesterday.




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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: openmind]
    #26601046 - 04/14/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I just planted my poppies just raked up some dirt sprinkled a bunch on and gently pressed the dirt. Now to wait and see.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Psyche delics] * 1
    #26604988 - 04/16/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

God luck :thumbup:


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: openmind]
    #26605045 - 04/16/20 07:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Hells Yeah :excited:



:thumbup: other cultivars are starting to show buds now
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peshawar, 4/14





Gorgeous :awesome: . Such a pure-white white lol. Like the epitome of "white" lol. Heavenly.





I'm guessing I'm still about 3 weeks away from my first blooms.

I gave the soil/plants some fermented nettle/mallow tea yesterday.




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I heard nettles are good stuff. The solid white cultivars are some of my favorites for sure.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum] * 1
    #26605397 - 04/16/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Can't wait to see more!


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Allium]
    #26606213 - 04/16/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone notice this? dry latex from certain cultivars has a pleasant sweet smell, while latex from other cultivars has more of a bitter narcotic smell.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26606272 - 04/16/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Anyone notice this? dry latex from certain cultivars has a pleasant sweet smell, while latex from other cultivars has more of a bitter narcotic smell.





I haven't grown the plant enough or more than one cultivar to comment on that. This year I am growing two different cultivars though.

Over the years I have heard some folks mention that the latex/O they had did have a sweet/floral essence about it....The plants I grew last year I didn't lance for any latex so I didn't get the chance to take a smell.





Is it "normal" for pods to kinda sweat/ooze out small amounts of latex on their own?...The pods on the plants I grew last year seemed to have tiny little specs & spots of what I'm assuming is latex that was seeping/oozing out of them onto the surface>>>>










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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: openmind] * 2
    #26607695 - 04/17/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have noticed that occasionally, I always assumed that it may have been caused by insects or something, but I never saw any visible insects associated with it so that may not be the case.

I'd like to point out some commonly available cultivars that are quite good for anyone new to poppy growing or looking to expand their collection. This is not a measured or scientific comparison, just my own opinions after growing these cultivars.

1. Peshawar: This is a traditional latex cultivar from the Peshawar region of Pakistan. Solid white flowers and white seeds Very fast flowering. Large pods with good latex yield. Medium to high potency. Maybe a bit more susceptible to fungus than other varieties. easy to find, sold by multiple vendors online.

2. Zahir: This is a traditional latex cultivar from Afghanistan. I've only grown this one a couple times. Purple flowers with dark purple basal blotch, blue seed. I would put it in the same category as the Peshawar in terms of latex yield and potency. Also available from multiple vendors online.

3. Black Swan: very common ornamental variety, available all around the US at nurseries and hardware stores. I believe the poppy openmind posted above is a black swan. Quite a respectable potency for such a widely available plant. I've even seen starter plants of these for sale in a nursery in california. cons small pods and low latex yield.

4. Lauren's grape: Also very easy to find ornamental cultivar. Similar to black swan in terms of having high potency, small pods and low latex yield


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26607860 - 04/17/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone every grow p. Setigerum?


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26607903 - 04/17/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes. It is a beautiful plant but worthless if you're after alkaloids.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26609713 - 04/18/20 06:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Anyone notice this? dry latex from certain cultivars has a pleasant sweet smell, while latex from other cultivars has more of a bitter narcotic smell.




I have noticed this as well :thumbup:

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openmind said:
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sacramentum said:
Anyone notice this? dry latex from certain cultivars has a pleasant sweet smell, while latex from other cultivars has more of a bitter narcotic smell.





I haven't grown the plant enough or more than one cultivar to comment on that. This year I am growing two different cultivars though.

Over the years I have heard some folks mention that the latex/O they had did have a sweet/floral essence about it....The plants I grew last year I didn't lance for any latex so I didn't get the chance to take a smell.





Is it "normal" for pods to kinda sweat/ooze out small amounts of latex on their own?...The pods on the plants I grew last year seemed to have tiny little specs & spots of what I'm assuming is latex that was seeping/oozing out of them onto the surface>>>>










-OM


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This is totally normal,and it happens to all my pods every season.

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sacramentum said:
I have noticed that occasionally, I always assumed that it may have been caused by insects or something, but I never saw any visible insects associated with it so that may not be the case.

I'd like to point out some commonly available cultivars that are quite good for anyone new to poppy growing or looking to expand their collection. This is not a measured or scientific comparison, just my own opinions after growing these cultivars.

1. Peshawar: This is a traditional latex cultivar from the Peshawar region of Pakistan. Solid white flowers and white seeds Very fast flowering. Large pods with good latex yield. Medium to high potency. Maybe a bit more susceptible to fungus than other varieties. easy to find, sold by multiple vendors online.

2. Zahir: This is a traditional latex cultivar from Afghanistan. I've only grown this one a couple times. Purple flowers with dark purple basal blotch, blue seed. I would put it in the same category as the Peshawar in terms of latex yield and potency. Also available from multiple vendors online.

3. Black Swan: very common ornamental variety, available all around the US at nurseries and hardware stores. I believe the poppy openmind posted above is a black swan. Quite a respectable potency for such a widely available plant. I've even seen starter plants of these for sale in a nursery in california. cons small pods and low latex yield.

4. Lauren's grape: Also very easy to find ornamental cultivar. Similar to black swan in terms of having high potency, small pods and low latex yield





Great info :cool:

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Anyone every grow p. Setigerum?




This is one that I really want to grow out badly!


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Allium] * 1
    #26610213 - 04/18/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum] * 3
    #26610255 - 04/18/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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