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Tiniest of mushrooms! * 1
    #26610167 - 04/18/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hey fellow lab geeks!

I have here a very typical monotub grow. I have restarted the project after a few years hiatus so I've been a tad rusty but I'm still using the same equipment and methods I've had plenty of success with in the past, however this come I've come out with a beautiful flush of particularly tiny mushrooms!

It's the first bin of this run and I'm praying this is not a genetic issue because I've got another 60ish jars of this strain to work with...

6 jars of colonized Rye spawned to coir/verm/gypsum, took over 30 days till first pins so a very slow start, possibly due to low temps (low 70s) before I got a heater in there. RH was high inside the bin, misted/fanned regularly. Anyway here's a few pics, I'm just looking for any explanations, hopefully other than genetics, of what I could do to improve the size for my next flushes/tubs.







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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese]
    #26610182 - 04/18/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Is it Puerto Rican by any chance?


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26610191 - 04/18/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I had the same with a South American I was running a while ago. I started from spore again and got normal mushrooms.


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: Mike O.Rrhizal]
    #26610195 - 04/18/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They're supposed to be Golden Teacher :confused:


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese]
    #26610215 - 04/18/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have seen that before when the light is to close to the lid of the tub. They kinda lay over and die. Just something I saw, not claiming that it is the cause.


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: Sockadin]
    #26610961 - 04/18/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I have seen that before when the light is to close to the lid of the tub. They kinda lay over and die. Just something I saw, not claiming that it is the cause.




I just have the light on in the center of the room and the window a few feet from the bin. It's a basement so it doesn't get much light through the window but is that something I should be concerned of?


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese] * 1
    #26610964 - 04/18/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Overly wet substrate usually does that


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26614643 - 04/20/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've had golden teacher do that before. Had way too much moisture in my substrate


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: artkng]
    #26622711 - 04/23/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Substrate is not particularly wet. Just coir/verm/gyp at field capacity. 2nd flush seems to be doing the same, or essentially all aborting. I have the tiniest oz of 2000 mushrooms lol.

Bin #2 appears to be going the same route. How exactly do you determine if it's too wet?


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese]
    #26622808 - 04/23/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have a few lbs of those little fuckers like that and they are dangerous af.


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: shevanel]
    #26628024 - 04/25/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Can anyone tell me how to determine if it's too wet? What should I be looking for?


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: shevanel]
    #26628067 - 04/25/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I have a few lbs of those little fuckers like that and they are dangerous af.



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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese] * 5
    #26628070 - 04/25/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Can anyone tell me how to determine if it's too wet? What should I be looking for?



You know what wet looks like.
Pick your tub up learn to judge the weight of it hydrated and dry.
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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26629024 - 04/26/20 07:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The color of the coir can help too but sometimes it’s just the surface layer.


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: A.k.a]
    #26636838 - 04/29/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Well the verdict is they are suuuuper potent! Half gram resulted in some solid visuals and gigglefests.

But the overall output is low and ultra time consuming to pick.

Second flush came up the same and the second bin behind it seems just as bad.

I still don't think the substrate was particularly wet. Same recipe I've used before and I have to squeeze pretty damn hard to get just a few drops out of the mix. But I'll be taking a quart out of my next few bins to compare and report back.

Is there any other conditions which can cause a whole bin of stunted/aborts and slow growth?


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese]
    #26636862 - 04/29/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Just curious, what's your light source


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: shevanel]
    #26636888 - 04/29/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Were you misting your substrate as it was colonizing?


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: shevanel]
    #26637091 - 04/29/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Were you misting your substrate as it was colonizing?




As it was colonizing I've left it alone completely with holes taped. After fully colonized I misted and fanned daily until pinning.

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Just curious, what's your light source




I have a 13W 2500k CFL and a 23W 6400k CFL in the light in the room on the ceiling. And a window that gets minimal light. (I could probably open that up to get more light in the window)


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese]
    #26637195 - 04/29/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I've ran a MS Gt syringe to a bunch of agar then to grains and bulk and I've been seeing a lot of these little guys pop up in a few tubs.

I actually don't mind some of these. Take up minimal storage but potent enough to put a smile on your face.


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese]
    #26637269 - 04/29/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I've had the same thing with a GT tub before. Personally I think they look really cool. Are the other 60 jars multispore?


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: MrMong]
    #26639167 - 04/30/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I've had the same thing with a GT tub before. Personally I think they look
really cool. Are the other 60 jars multispore?




Is it still multispore if it was originally from a spore syringe but is third gen G2G? Because that's the case.


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese]
    #26639181 - 04/30/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Do you think I can properly dry out my substrate a little by leaving the lid open / a fan on? I fear I will just dry out the surface and not the whole sub.


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese]
    #26639402 - 04/30/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah that’s still all the same ms culture.

You’d prob be better off not adding any more moisture and letting it slowly evaporate and get used up by the myc.


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: A.k.a]
    #26639411 - 04/30/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Even if you did try and dry it the time has passed to do so.

Back in the day I've pulled out my oven rack and placed a sub on there and let it sit somewhere for a while but tbh it's more trouble than it is a remedy.


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: shevanel]
    #26640083 - 04/30/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I just got a 1st flush of chubby golden teachers, dark navy staining on the stems where cut.  The sub was not overly wet and more likely on the dry side.  Hopefully I’m in for a ride this weekend.





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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: SYF8]
    #26640704 - 05/01/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The sub does look ok but those shrooms are very waterlogged still.

I bet they got some kick though.


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    #26641917 - 05/01/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)





These are, by a wide margin, the densest pinsets I've ever seen. If only they would GROW!!
Judging by the colour of these vs the previous pics, is it safe to say they're all aborts? Days go by and they don't get any bigger :frown:


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: verytastycheese]
    #26642000 - 05/01/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The same thing happened to me. Looked really promising but they only grew 1 inch tall :frown:


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Re: Tiniest of mushrooms! [Re: MrMong]
    #26731141 - 06/09/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Just an update.
This bin did eventually pump out 4+ flushes of increasing size and never actually contaminated. Finally was retired over 3 months from spawning. I have since reduced my water content and am seeing faster colonization and less tiny fruits so I think it's safe to say y'all were right about the water content being too high. I'm just stoked it wasn't genetics!


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