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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
    #26606736 - 04/16/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I am pretty sure kryptos mentioned nothing of demonstrating excellence.

a degree speaks to the knowledge and character of the person that possesses it. It means that someone was judged by their peers and found worthy in their eyes.

A degree gets a person to various levels in various jobs/places. It rates the peoples ability to conform to a regimen and display a level of intelligence/excellence through a grading system etc...

I have a friend I've known since I was 19. He got a job as a mail room clerk at a waste disposal place, a major one. When someone would quit in the office or want to leave early he would go in that cold room with the big disks/computers and change them, learned comps from the ground up back in the 80's on up to now.

His title is business systems analyst and he knows more than a new grad due to his experience. He has no degree, but holds a job that requires one now for new people I'm sure. I don't really know about that business. He may have gotten one by now, I don't know, but last time I asked him a decade ago he didn't. Is it still possible to do that in comps/IT etc...?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos]
    #26606747 - 04/16/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ah, if it were that simple...


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26606754 - 04/16/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I am pretty sure kryptos mentioned nothing of demonstrating excellence.




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Fundamentally, possession of a degree from an accredited University *is* a demonstration of excellence in a specific field




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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26606768 - 04/16/20 09:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I am pretty sure kryptos mentioned nothing of demonstrating excellence.




As a matter of fact, I explicitly stated this.

Your friend has demonstrated excellence through years of work. This is not the same as years of study, but the end result is the same.

There is a reason that (specifically in the chemical industry, not sure about others) a BS is equivalent to 4-5 years of non-specific work experience in chemistry, with an additional 2 years for an MS and a further 2-3 years for a PhD.

A fresh PhD graduate is worth the same as a high school graduate with roughly a decade of experience, from a hiring perspective. The only benefit that the degree has, in this case, is that the experience is non-specific. A PhD chemist can go into pharma, polymers, computational, etc. and start out as if they have a decade of experience. A high school graduate that worked with polymers for a decade is going to have to go back to entry level for non-polymer chemistry.

Academia is a different beast, because a PhD is the basic requirement to be taken seriously in academia. If you don;t have a PhD, you're a nobody.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos]
    #26606787 - 04/16/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ooops, my mistake, carry on.:blush:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26606791 - 04/16/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I quit in the middle of my doctoral dissertation and continued to teach at a Big 10 school.

When I was an undergrad I got in a fight with a theater major after I told him if he was serious about acting he should be in NYC waiting tables and learning to act because where is being a university theater major going to get you?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26606853 - 04/16/20 09:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

"He was a speedfreak and helped kill Marilyn."

It was the 60's, everyone was on amphetamine salts and/or barbiturates.

As for Monroe, cmon, she was basically the Anna Nicole Smith of that generation...


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26607044 - 04/17/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Despite having the superficial bimbo thing going, Marilyn Monroe was very good in a lot of excellent movies. Bleach blond hair and big tits were the only things she had in common with Anna Nicole Smith.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26607155 - 04/17/20 02:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

They were also both drug addicts that had deep down trauma, which eventually killed them.

They both died in their late 30's, which is when superficial/vein women realize they wont be pretty forever.

Also in the 90's, as a famous person, you are constantly being televised.

In the 60's a camera was the size of a bazooka...

That being said, "Skyscraper" and "To the limit" are excellent movies...... depending on your taste........ lol


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26607156 - 04/17/20 02:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I think we can all agree that in terms of culture the 90's were way trashier than the 60's.

They also both fucked the president. ha

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26607226 - 04/17/20 04:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I didn't now Anna Nicole fucked a President, must have been slick Willy. I only meant that when you get past the superficiality, Marilyn Monroe did a lot of good acting.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26607387 - 04/17/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I like where this went, and it still relates to pres candidates and the pres election, lol!


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 7
    #26609124 - 04/17/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Creepy Joes latest blunder


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #26609529 - 04/18/20 03:40 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Sure, he sounds retarded. But so did/do Reagan, W and Trump. It doesn't seem to be an issue in this country.

The election will hinge entirely on Corona and Corona economic damage.

To all the people who don't think Biden has a chance, what do you think the unemployment rate is going to be in October?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26609628 - 04/18/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I mean, Anna did have a track record for fucking decrepit billionaires.......

I wouldn't doubt for one second she fucked Trump...


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26609635 - 04/18/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Good point. She probably believed his B.S. about how much money he had.


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    #26609647 - 04/18/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)



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    #26609651 - 04/18/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

that guy needs to be heavily dosed in a quiet mildly lit room with a good therapist for a weekend. that might be the solution to almost everything

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26609658 - 04/18/20 06:01 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Pyche is bullshit science.

arent we all a little fucked up?

Rightfully so when the world around us is falling apart by its seams.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26609664 - 04/18/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

i know but it might be worth a shot. it's something we haven't tried yet. i can't solve anything. they need something. they didn't get enough love. a lot of them were probably traumatized and abused as children. i want to have faith in democracy but it's discouraging when the scum of our society are supposed to represent us. we are married to a bunch of rapists

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