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I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization
    #26609454 - 04/18/20 02:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

This is outrageous but honestly. I don't think we're supposed to smoke weed. Every gang in your city smokes it to pull their gangster BS which is really a kind of psychotic relationship to non-locality, something more in the field of psilocybin and LSD.

I swear they've all lost it. Before someone rips my head off, does anyone agree?

I mean reality is abstract, people can go insane in all sorts of different ways that will never be noticed by the health system. Maybe cannabis isn't schizophrenia but it's definitely an ongoing psychosis.

That is not mind expansion... you are having a break.

Again, I'd just like to see if anyone agrees, and not just make a thread to insult people or be insulted for being outrageous.

The only reason I'm talking like/about this is because I saw Virginia legalized and so that's what 17 states now, and I'm pretty sure this whole thing is a massive mental health crisis. Just massive.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc] * 10
    #26609461 - 04/18/20 02:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Bro, you should smoke a joint and chill out.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 5
    #26609469 - 04/18/20 02:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Where do these outrageous theories come from. Do you have some data? Health care experience? A peer reviewed journal?

You obviously don’t know the difference between a drunk and a “stoner” for lack of a better word.


Anyone who works in healthcare would rather deal with a habitual cannabis user vs a alcoholic.

You are just plain wrong. I am sorry. If you want some more opinions based on facts I will be here.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: FrancoAmerican]
    #26609475 - 04/18/20 02:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The legalization is only a way to deal with the problems created by it being illegal. Use may go up a little, but the negative effects of that I think are less than those of the substance being illegal. The widespread legalization in the US is not random and I guess the people doing these decisions have good reasons other than they themselves wanting to smoke legally, you know?


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: InnerWisdom] * 1
    #26609498 - 04/18/20 03:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

i got sum peer review right herr  :eatadick:


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated] * 3
    #26609502 - 04/18/20 03:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

We all smoke it and will gang bang till the dang we die


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: budmanman]
    #26609542 - 04/18/20 03:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

We need to legalize drugs or impose the death penalty. Making money off arrests is immoral.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc] * 2
    #26609545 - 04/18/20 04:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Maybe cannabis isn't schizophrenia but it's definitely an ongoing psychosis.




My gf works in a psychiatric institution. The kids who get brought in their with their first psychosis nearly invariably have had that psychosis triggered by cannabis use. However, the other 99.9% of kids who toke up do just fine. No psychosis, no aberrant behavior.

Likewise, I'll happily agree that cannabis use is rampant in every 'gang' in whatever city in the western world. But conversely, that doesn't make everyone who uses cannabis turn into a gang member or exhibit that kind of behavior.

In short, your pars pro toto logical flaw is driving you towards inaccurate conclusions.

Don't get me wrong; I think that frequent cannabis use, especially in the longer term (past a few weeks or months) has serious drawbacks and risks. But I also think that the vast majority of youngsters who go through such a phase at some point grow over it; they start a family, life gets in the way of toking up and before you know it, nothing much at all reminds one of their stoner phase.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc] * 1
    #26609576 - 04/18/20 04:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

dude

whats wrong with being a lil schizy


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26609592 - 04/18/20 04:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

lemme get this straight, so you "think" everyone who smokes weed is shizophrenic, even if we assume for a moment thats 100% true, then that provides some really strong evidence that weed does SOMETHING to help with the symptoms. which is in fact an argument FOR legalization, since clearly they are self-medicating with it, and we should not be criminalizing medication.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: pixelpopper] * 1
    #26609601 - 04/18/20 04:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

OP your post is like the gateway drug theory, severely logically flawed.


I don't even smoke the stuff but it's obvious that it's no threat to society, and it's not the state's responsibility to police how people lead their lives anyway. I do not want my tax dollars to be spent on hunting down and locking up dope smokers. FFS, there's far greater issues to focus our attention on besides policing other people's personal freedoms.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Northerner]
    #26609603 - 04/18/20 04:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

By this logic, schizophrenics should be locked up for being schizophrenic


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: koraks]
    #26609777 - 04/18/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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koraks said:
Quote:

lostintimenspc said:
Maybe cannabis isn't schizophrenia but it's definitely an ongoing psychosis.




My gf works in a psychiatric institution. The kids who get brought in their with their first psychosis nearly invariably have had that psychosis triggered by cannabis use...




I grew up in a major city within gangs. Every once in a while I come across a laced blunt/joint without the asshole warning anyone.

One of my friends currently has permanent brain damage because of this. How does the institution know the psychosis was not trigger by the crap that was added to it and not the cannabis itself?

I work in the medical field and specialized in the most serious mental health issues for many years. The most psychosis I'vs seen come from spice use but never marijuana.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26609813 - 04/18/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Is this post for realz?

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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 4
    #26609851 - 04/18/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

OP has obviously never met a schizophrenic person, most are really far out there, but not dangerous.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: ninja cat 09] * 1
    #26609890 - 04/18/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

A lot of weed smokers are in EPIC DENIAL that their habit might have any adverse consequences whatsoever. They inhale soot, tar and partial combustion gases like anyone exposed to vegetable smoke, but noooo for them its harmless.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26609893 - 04/18/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

i vape and eat edibles


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated]
    #26609894 - 04/18/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Then you are not a pot SMOKER but have taken sensible harm reduction precautions.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Asante]
    #26609899 - 04/18/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So I cant hit this bong with peace of mind? :unwanted: :bongload:

How bad is a bong rip compared to smoking cigs?


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26609902 - 04/18/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

its like .1 of a cig puff


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: ninja cat 09] * 1
    #26609908 - 04/18/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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OP has obviously never met a schizophrenic person, most are really far out there, but not dangerous.




and many of em are also relatively normal people, just happen to have weird intrusive images and thoughts that they know are false, and manage to tune them out and cope relatively well.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc] * 1
    #26609916 - 04/18/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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The only reason I'm talking like/about this is because I saw Virginia legalized and so that's what 17 states now, and I'm pretty sure this whole thing is a massive mental health crisis. Just massive.






If you're pretty sure the whole thing is a massive mental health crisis then you should have stronger evidence than just the number of states and your expectations of a resulting crisis. This happened quite some time ago in a lot of these places, where is the crisis?


One consideration is that an awful lot of the people who are inclined to smoke weed were smoking it anyway when it was illegal. Prohibition was never particularly effective at preventing anyone from smoking it.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: psi] * 2
    #26610079 - 04/18/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

"I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic..."

Saying something absolute like that automatically destroyed your argument.

It is also ironic that the statement sounds like something a schizophrenic would say. :lol:


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: LikeMyc] * 3
    #26610095 - 04/18/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

OP just because some shitty people near you smoke weed does not make weed bad. Those people are already shit. It's not the weeds fault. Get over yourself.....welcome to the motherfucking shroomery :shroomeryhead:


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc] * 1
    #26610146 - 04/18/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It was the drinkin' that made me crazy, son,
not the smoking weed thang.:faded:


Probably not a big deal to most of you,
but I finally got my doc to approve me for MMJ. :cheer:

It's still not legal in NJ, but I'll be getting my card soon. :super:
:happyweed: . . . :peace:


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: vinsue] * 1
    #26610231 - 04/18/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It was the drinkin' that made me crazy, son,
not the smoking weed thang.:faded:


Probably not a big deal to most of you,
but I finally got my doc to approve me for MMJ. :cheer:

It's still not legal in NJ, but I'll be getting my card soon. :super:
:happyweed: . . . :peace:



Yay! Congrats!

Here legal marijooana is hopefully gonna be here at the end of the month, since then is the deadline, but knowing how politics works here, it's gonna be a little while longer.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: ninja cat 09] * 1
    #26610233 - 04/18/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

fuckin cartels :sip:


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26610258 - 04/18/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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fuckin cartels :sip:



They've got everyone in their pocket, there's allegations the last president (Enrique Peña Nieto) received a bribe from el Chapo. Not super unbelievable.

That being said, I think because of legalization in the US, most of their profits will start coming from meth and fentanyl.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26610275 - 04/18/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

taking china money :nonono:

theyre gunna wanna start a war

fucking war on drugs


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated]
    #26610298 - 04/18/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They've been winning it for the past few decades :lol:


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc] * 1
    #26610333 - 04/18/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Virginia is decriminalizing it, not legalizing. They are "studying" legalization at the end of the year.


The reason it becomes in possession of gangs is because it's a commodity and a black market item. That's the only reason the 2 have a strong link. Smuggling and peddling.


Legalization actually strips a great deal of power away from gangs. It forces them to focus on harder black market drugs and there's just less of a market for them.



Now any drug effects your judgement. Being stoned off your ass absolutely effects your decision making. But these people are in serious unstable often traumatizing environments and are already mentally unsound.

It's not the pot it's that their lives are just kinda shitty. The pot might exasperate or reveal symptoms but it isn't the catalyst.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26610338 - 04/18/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It can be the catalyst for schizophrenia tho


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated]
    #26610342 - 04/18/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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its like .1 of a cig puff





nonsense, weed has a lot more tar in it than tobacco.  A bong rip is more like a whole cigarette.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Babylon]
    #26610355 - 04/18/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

yeah but it doesnt have the same effect as tobacco

smoke and tar are very complex substances if u wanna get into it


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated]
    #26610358 - 04/18/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

resin aint tar


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Babylon]
    #26610374 - 04/18/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

To be clear, I am entirely in favor of legal weed.  I'm in favor of legal anything, what you choose to put in your body is your own business.

That said a lot of people downplay the risks of weed and tout benefits that are unproven or not real at all.

CBD probably does have some beneficial effects in regards to cancer, that doesn't mean it cures cancer.  THC helps a lot of folks relax, it makes others more anxious.  Smoking is not good for your lungs and THC absolutely can be a catalyst for schizophrenia.  People that get stoned all the time tend to eat in unhealthy ways and many of them have a very hard time getting anything accomplished because they are unfocused and unmotivated.

I think weed is considerably safer than alcohol, and I am certainly not against folks getting drunk, stoned, or whatever.  However the idea that weed is not harmful at all is foolish.

Resin and tar are two different words for the same class of chemical compounds, they are literally the same thing.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Babylon]
    #26610388 - 04/18/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

no ur a fool


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated]
    #26610392 - 04/18/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm pretty sure it is a square/rectangle situation :awehigh:


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26610400 - 04/18/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

no its like not even comparable


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated]
    #26610404 - 04/18/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm just fucking around. I'm not a chemist at all lol


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated]
    #26610407 - 04/18/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The only downside is that compulsively smoking weed leads to addictive behavior

but thats anything that stimulates the amygdala


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #26610409 - 04/18/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm pretty sure cannabinated is exactly the sort of person I am talking about who thinks weed has no harmful effects whatsoever.  He might also think it cures cancer, and might even thing if everyone got stoned we'd have world peace.

That sort of attitude is the only thing that makes me thing weed might have some addictive potential, although I am pretty sure it's cultural and not the fault of the drug.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Babylon] * 1
    #26610417 - 04/18/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

you have good studies huh?


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26610420 - 04/18/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It can be the catalyst for schizophrenia tho



For sure. And weed can make you paranoid and anxious.

But crazy =/= schizophrenia.


I agree we don't talk about the risks enough. There's so much fear of reefer madness propaganda people are afraid to say anything bad can happen.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Babylon] * 1
    #26610421 - 04/18/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Babylon said:  People that get stoned all the time tend to eat in unhealthy ways and many of them have a very hard time getting anything accomplished because they are unfocused and unmotivated.





That's not true for everbody.
I got employee of the year one time.
I was high as fuck 24/7. Just all chilled out and shit.


Weed makes me ride my bicycle all day.
It gives crazy energy.

If not I'll start pacing the floor.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: watermelon mon] * 2
    #26610436 - 04/18/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I also dont think we talk about mental health enough


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: watermelon mon]
    #26610439 - 04/18/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Babylon said:  People that get stoned all the time tend to eat in unhealthy ways and many of them have a very hard time getting anything accomplished because they are unfocused and unmotivated.





That's not true for everbody.
I got employee of the year one time.
I was high as fuck 24/7. Just all chilled out and shit.


Weed makes me ride my bicycle all day.
It gives crazy energy.

If not I'll start pacing the floor.




There are certainly exceptions.  One of my good friends smokes more weed than anyone I have ever known.  He also works really hard, both at work and at home.  He's very skilled and motivated.  He's also an exception.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26610468 - 04/18/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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So I cant hit this bong with peace of mind? :unwanted: :bongload:

How bad is a bong rip compared to smoking cigs?



Cigs contain a whole host of nasty shit carcinogens and stuff, it's fucking deadly. Hundreds of millions of bodies and counting...

Smoking weed clogs you up with tar and soot, but in real terms of harm it's magnitudes less than smoking tobacco. 

No it's not good for you, your lungs are designed to breathe air, not smoke, so it will effect your overall health. You might even consider what that means between living in a dense city area or a country area for overall health and longevity as well. A lot of people are breathing really bad air that is far more toxic with every breath than some dude out in the sticks ripping bongs could ever hope to achieve.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Babylon] * 1
    #26610469 - 04/18/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm happy that I lost my dependency for it. Dont care.

It's crazy that it works as a super chill stimulant for me.

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    #26610476 - 04/18/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think I'm hiding this thread because I don't need this negativity in my life.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated]
    #26610489 - 04/18/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I also dont think we talk about mental health enough




Also for sure. I can't smoke because it gives me panic attacks. But I'm already prone to panic attacks. Been having them since I was 9 years old. I just didn't know that's what they were.

And I had seen several therapists by the time I figured it out.


Mental health as an institution and a cultural philosophy kinda sucks.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 2
    #26610495 - 04/18/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

gotta break the system

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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: cannabinated] * 3
    #26610525 - 04/18/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

potential health issues connected to weed is one thing

saying it should be illegal and result in a person's life being fucked is another
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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: pixelpopper] * 2
    #26610555 - 04/18/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think the Shroomery has been infiltrated.  Seems like people have been coming in with some sort of agenda.  I don’t like it.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26610604 - 04/18/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
So I cant hit this bong with peace of mind? :unwanted: :bongload:

How bad is a bong rip compared to smoking cigs?



Cigs contain a whole host of nasty shit carcinogens and stuff, it's fucking deadly. Hundreds of millions of bodies and counting...

Smoking weed clogs you up with tar and soot, but in real terms of harm it's magnitudes less than smoking tobacco. 

No it's not good for you, your lungs are designed to breathe air, not smoke, so it will effect your overall health. You might even consider what that means between living in a dense city area or a country area for overall health and longevity as well. A lot of people are breathing really bad air that is far more toxic with every breath than some dude out in the sticks ripping bongs could ever hope to achieve.




It also depends what sort of weed you are smoking in that bong.  If you grew it yourself on dirt and cowshit, it's not gonna be all that bad for you (the same would be true of tobacco you grew yourself) if you used hydroponics with synthetic fertilizer and pesticides and so forth it's going to be less healthy, and if you bought it at a dispensary and they sprayed it with fragrance and artificial flavor, and fortified it with extract which still has some residual solvents, it's going to be fairly bad for you.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc] * 1
    #26610638 - 04/18/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Every gang in your city smokes it to pull their gangster BS which is really a kind of psychotic relationship to non-locality, something more in the field of psilocybin and LSD.



Son, let me tell you a story about cocaine. :wayshegoes:


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Babylon]
    #26610643 - 04/18/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, good points. They are doing some funky things to cannabis these days.

Tobacco you grew yourself is still deadly though, the same as light cigarettes are. There's no getting around the toxins in tobacco smoke. Just by burning this stuff it releases an insane cocktail of poisons and alkaloids, much of it known to cause cancer.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Northerner] * 2
    #26610769 - 04/18/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It’s called weed because it’s grows inside your brainforest and takes over till your a funny dummy.

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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26610859 - 04/18/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It’s called weed because it’s grows inside your brainforest and takes over till your a funny dummy.

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fuqqqq

In all seriousness though, I kinda dislike that therapists here treat it as an off or on type of thing. It's really different if you're smoking every night or every morning or every weekend. It's all very frequent use, but it has different effects on the mind.

It's kinda why I don't talk about it too much with my therapist. Then again, I gave her some seeds and she's growing a plant, so maybe I'm not giving her enough credit.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: ninja cat 09] * 2
    #26610878 - 04/18/20 03:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

OP = Troll.
Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Mushit]
    #26610938 - 04/18/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well this is one way to prevent yourself from going insane during quarantine


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Mushit]
    #26610975 - 04/18/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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OP = Troll.
Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
C'mon.  9 posts.



Well, 14 posts... and looking at those posts OP posted some very cool art they made and also made other very wordy, yet wildly tangential, threads that tell me they're not trolling. Just has some very funny ideas.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc] * 2
    #26611179 - 04/18/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If OP smoked weed, he'd realize how benign it is.

It's probably the most safe and benign recreational drug there is. Of course, like all drugs, it does have some negative health effects. Smoking it naturally is as unhealthy as smoking anything, and it can cause problems like panic attacks and anxiety. But it's never been shown to cause any lasting damage or problems mentally in people who quit.

It probably can make existing mental health problems a little worse for the duration of effects of the drug, but that's about it.

Also the whole idea that we should make something illegal simply because it might be harmful is misguided. There are plenty of things that are very harmful which are perfectly legal, like alcohol. And we all understand that although alcohol can be extremely harmful, banning it doesn't do anyone any good. That's because prohibition doesn't work. It doesn't work with alcohol, and it doesn't work with weed. Rather than gaining control over the drug, prohibition causes you to lose all ability to control it, and it doesn't stop people from using it.

Beyond that, trying to tell someone what they can or can't do with their own body is wrong. Throwing them in jail for the supposed crime of choosing what to put in their own body harms them more than the drug ever would, and it doesn't even stop them from using the drug. It wastes tax payer money, jail space, and police time without actually helping the person or solving the problem.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: nooneman]
    #26611192 - 04/18/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It can cause mental health issues in some who are healthy without a preexisting or underlying disorder
and exacerbate it in those who have an underlying disorder or preexisting disorder and or mental health issues
And abuse and misuse can lead to dependency disorders.
It’s incredibly diverse in its effects as a drug - plant.
The rarity of such a thing lasting though, especially if one stops using it for good, is low.  People who do have a problem with it and continue using it are just as much a problem as the drug itself.

That’s if we’re all being honest about it’s full potential (negative side of them only)

But for the most, like has been stated already, compared to tobacco, alcohol, benzodiazepines, opiates, amphetamine, and other sedative hypnotics and stimulant drugs...it’s incredible how safe and beneficial cannabis can be when one is educated about it and it’s full potential effects, side effects, and potential consequences to the user.

Plus, now that it’s shifting from illegal to legal or decriminalized, it’s going to go through changes and everything will come to light now that it’s not only underground.

And the positive effects of it, fully potential, make it worth the aforementioned negative for most. I won’t state them as I imagine most here know most of them.

Anything can be misused, abused, or be detrimental to the human individual, it’s all in the dose and how it’s used and for what and by who.

That’s the last word. 

OPs argument is just plain old strange.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26612574 - 04/19/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Northerner said:
Quote:

Mushit said:
OP = Troll.
Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
C'mon.  9 posts.



Well, 14 posts... and looking at those posts OP posted some very cool art they made and also made other very wordy, yet wildly tangential, threads that tell me they're not trolling. Just has some very funny ideas.



Thanks Northerner.  It just seemed that the OP tried to get a rise out of the community with a bogus post.
I will cut him/her some slack.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Mushit]
    #26612590 - 04/19/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Edit: Redacted.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Mushit]
    #26613033 - 04/19/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Mushit said:
Quote:

Northerner said:
Quote:

Mushit said:
OP = Troll.
Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
C'mon.  9 posts.



Well, 14 posts... and looking at those posts OP posted some very cool art they made and also made other very wordy, yet wildly tangential, threads that tell me they're not trolling. Just has some very funny ideas.



Thanks Northerner.  It just seemed that the OP tried to get a rise out of the community with a bogus post.
I will cut him/her some slack.



Good on you mate. I suspect that OP might even be going through some mental health issues of their own. That's not unusual for shroomery members either.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Northerner]
    #26613342 - 04/19/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Cannabis reminds you not to take life too seriously. It's not the cannabis, but people's reaction to it. Some use cannabis to make living the right way more enjoyable; and some use it before/during/after terrible decisions that cannabis HELPS them live with instead of TRULY going off the deep end.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: O_Dweeds]
    #26614121 - 04/20/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Shit sorry about not coming back to my thread earlier.

I don't know, I'm trying not to step on anyone's toes, but I've never had success with weed, and people who smoke just seem disconnected to me.

Not true of LSD, mushrooms.

It's a feeling I've got that just won't go away so I thought I'd bring it up. If I thought it was just my own form of paranoia (!) I wouldn't have made the thread.

I think it gives people the wrong idea about certain boundaries formed by accurate conceptual thinking, and they sort of get a bit disconnected and hazy.


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    #26614124 - 04/20/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hey thanks everyone who stuck up for me! I'll try not to be too brazen in the future.

Should I just stick with, schizophrenia stats are probably more like 10% of the population and not 1%?

I see a lot of crazy people... people who don't know they're crazy.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26614125 - 04/20/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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    #26614128 - 04/20/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

most people still can't use it because they get drug tested at work. Pot was EXTREMELY easy to get before it was legal in those states! It really didn't change much I promise you.


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    #26614131 - 04/20/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think pot should be fully legal and mushrooms should be decriminalized. I think you should be able to grow your own mushrooms but I don't believe they should be sold in stores. Mushrooms and dmt should be treated with respect not sold like alcohol to party on. Just my opinion...


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    #26614132 - 04/20/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: watermelon mon] * 1
    #26614137 - 04/20/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm happy that I lost my dependency for it. Dont care.

It's crazy that it works as a super chill stimulant for me.

Smoke it when getting tired out and I'm ready to go.




Same here, I don’t smoke anymore because my career but when the wife and I first started dating it blew her mind that she would call and I’d be carpet cleaning the house, exercising or working on a project. Completely smashed her preconceived notions of stoners. I also kept my weight down, wasn’t until I quit smoking that I packed on like 70lbs.... jesus hurts just typing that out. Where’s that treadmill at....


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    #26614145 - 04/20/20 12:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

LikeMyc said:
"I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic..."

Saying something absolute like that automatically destroyed your argument.

It is also ironic that the statement sounds like something a schizophrenic would say. :lol:



Quote:

lostintimenspc said:
This is outrageous but honestly. I don't think we're supposed to smoke weed. Every gang in your city smokes it to pull their gangster BS which is really a kind of psychotic relationship to non-locality, something more in the field of psilocybin and LSD.

I swear they've all lost it. Before someone rips my head off, does anyone agree?

I mean reality is abstract, people can go insane in all sorts of different ways that will never be noticed by the health system. Maybe cannabis isn't schizophrenia but it's definitely an ongoing psychosis.

That is not mind expansion... you are having a break.

Again, I'd just like to see if anyone agrees, and not just make a thread to insult people or be insulted for being outrageous.

The only reason I'm talking like/about this is because I saw Virginia legalized and so that's what 17 states now, and I'm pretty sure this whole thing is a massive mental health crisis. Just massive.



Cancer patients, PTSD patients, people that are losing other meds because of uneducated people like you, pain patients from bad accidents, people that can't be treated through medicine for insomnia, trauma patients, seizure patients that would have life threatening seizures all would disagree with you. Pot also helps with getting people off hard drugs and alcohol which is proven to destroy lives through liver disease,domestic violence,murder,theft, drunk driving, causes seizures sand death in DTs it's a proven contribution to suicide.

If you drink every once in a while you're a complete hypocrite and don't understand the cutting edge medical potential. Even when I was 14 12 years ago I have an unexplained bowel disease that's like IBS  and at age 14 some of the best doctors on the west coast told me to try medical cannabis. I went from failing school to straight As I got off 7 rx  meds that were killing me because of it so you can fuck off with trying to force something you don't understand on people.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #26614149 - 04/20/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Easy man, he’s obviously just a simple slime mold from some random shroomery member’s long forgotten grow that just reached sentience and is still figuring things out...damn.



:likeaboss:

Come to think of it, there’s been a lot of them on the boards now a days...

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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26614230 - 04/20/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just some observations. See you round!


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26641975 - 05/01/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26642122 - 05/01/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think you miss the larger point of legalization: a little equity for those who have been senselessly incarcerated over a plant.


I am okay if you make the personal decision not to use it yourself.  However, I also think it is unfair of you to surmise that all people who use cannabis experience some type of psychosis while under its influence.


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