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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Mushit]
    #26610938 - 04/18/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well this is one way to prevent yourself from going insane during quarantine


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Mushit]
    #26610975 - 04/18/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Mushit said:
OP = Troll.
Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
C'mon.  9 posts.



Well, 14 posts... and looking at those posts OP posted some very cool art they made and also made other very wordy, yet wildly tangential, threads that tell me they're not trolling. Just has some very funny ideas.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc] * 2
    #26611179 - 04/18/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If OP smoked weed, he'd realize how benign it is.

It's probably the most safe and benign recreational drug there is. Of course, like all drugs, it does have some negative health effects. Smoking it naturally is as unhealthy as smoking anything, and it can cause problems like panic attacks and anxiety. But it's never been shown to cause any lasting damage or problems mentally in people who quit.

It probably can make existing mental health problems a little worse for the duration of effects of the drug, but that's about it.

Also the whole idea that we should make something illegal simply because it might be harmful is misguided. There are plenty of things that are very harmful which are perfectly legal, like alcohol. And we all understand that although alcohol can be extremely harmful, banning it doesn't do anyone any good. That's because prohibition doesn't work. It doesn't work with alcohol, and it doesn't work with weed. Rather than gaining control over the drug, prohibition causes you to lose all ability to control it, and it doesn't stop people from using it.

Beyond that, trying to tell someone what they can or can't do with their own body is wrong. Throwing them in jail for the supposed crime of choosing what to put in their own body harms them more than the drug ever would, and it doesn't even stop them from using the drug. It wastes tax payer money, jail space, and police time without actually helping the person or solving the problem.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: nooneman]
    #26611192 - 04/18/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It can cause mental health issues in some who are healthy without a preexisting or underlying disorder
and exacerbate it in those who have an underlying disorder or preexisting disorder and or mental health issues
And abuse and misuse can lead to dependency disorders.
It’s incredibly diverse in its effects as a drug - plant.
The rarity of such a thing lasting though, especially if one stops using it for good, is low.  People who do have a problem with it and continue using it are just as much a problem as the drug itself.

That’s if we’re all being honest about it’s full potential (negative side of them only)

But for the most, like has been stated already, compared to tobacco, alcohol, benzodiazepines, opiates, amphetamine, and other sedative hypnotics and stimulant drugs...it’s incredible how safe and beneficial cannabis can be when one is educated about it and it’s full potential effects, side effects, and potential consequences to the user.

Plus, now that it’s shifting from illegal to legal or decriminalized, it’s going to go through changes and everything will come to light now that it’s not only underground.

And the positive effects of it, fully potential, make it worth the aforementioned negative for most. I won’t state them as I imagine most here know most of them.

Anything can be misused, abused, or be detrimental to the human individual, it’s all in the dose and how it’s used and for what and by who.

That’s the last word. 

OPs argument is just plain old strange.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26612574 - 04/19/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Northerner said:
Quote:

Mushit said:
OP = Troll.
Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
C'mon.  9 posts.



Well, 14 posts... and looking at those posts OP posted some very cool art they made and also made other very wordy, yet wildly tangential, threads that tell me they're not trolling. Just has some very funny ideas.



Thanks Northerner.  It just seemed that the OP tried to get a rise out of the community with a bogus post.
I will cut him/her some slack.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Mushit]
    #26612590 - 04/19/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Edit: Redacted.


Edited by LikeMyc (04/19/20 02:07 PM)


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Mushit]
    #26613033 - 04/19/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Mushit said:
Quote:

Northerner said:
Quote:

Mushit said:
OP = Troll.
Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
C'mon.  9 posts.



Well, 14 posts... and looking at those posts OP posted some very cool art they made and also made other very wordy, yet wildly tangential, threads that tell me they're not trolling. Just has some very funny ideas.



Thanks Northerner.  It just seemed that the OP tried to get a rise out of the community with a bogus post.
I will cut him/her some slack.



Good on you mate. I suspect that OP might even be going through some mental health issues of their own. That's not unusual for shroomery members either.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Northerner]
    #26613342 - 04/19/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Cannabis reminds you not to take life too seriously. It's not the cannabis, but people's reaction to it. Some use cannabis to make living the right way more enjoyable; and some use it before/during/after terrible decisions that cannabis HELPS them live with instead of TRULY going off the deep end.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: O_Dweeds]
    #26614121 - 04/20/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Shit sorry about not coming back to my thread earlier.

I don't know, I'm trying not to step on anyone's toes, but I've never had success with weed, and people who smoke just seem disconnected to me.

Not true of LSD, mushrooms.

It's a feeling I've got that just won't go away so I thought I'd bring it up. If I thought it was just my own form of paranoia (!) I wouldn't have made the thread.

I think it gives people the wrong idea about certain boundaries formed by accurate conceptual thinking, and they sort of get a bit disconnected and hazy.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26614124 - 04/20/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hey thanks everyone who stuck up for me! I'll try not to be too brazen in the future.

Should I just stick with, schizophrenia stats are probably more like 10% of the population and not 1%?

I see a lot of crazy people... people who don't know they're crazy.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26614125 - 04/20/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:yeahthatsfunny:


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Shenmue]
    #26614128 - 04/20/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

most people still can't use it because they get drug tested at work. Pot was EXTREMELY easy to get before it was legal in those states! It really didn't change much I promise you.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26614131 - 04/20/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think pot should be fully legal and mushrooms should be decriminalized. I think you should be able to grow your own mushrooms but I don't believe they should be sold in stores. Mushrooms and dmt should be treated with respect not sold like alcohol to party on. Just my opinion...


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26614132 - 04/20/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:loldongs:


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: watermelon mon] * 1
    #26614137 - 04/20/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

watermelon mon said:
I'm happy that I lost my dependency for it. Dont care.

It's crazy that it works as a super chill stimulant for me.

Smoke it when getting tired out and I'm ready to go.




Same here, I don’t smoke anymore because my career but when the wife and I first started dating it blew her mind that she would call and I’d be carpet cleaning the house, exercising or working on a project. Completely smashed her preconceived notions of stoners. I also kept my weight down, wasn’t until I quit smoking that I packed on like 70lbs.... jesus hurts just typing that out. Where’s that treadmill at....


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc] * 1
    #26614145 - 04/20/20 12:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

LikeMyc said:
"I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic..."

Saying something absolute like that automatically destroyed your argument.

It is also ironic that the statement sounds like something a schizophrenic would say. :lol:



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lostintimenspc said:
This is outrageous but honestly. I don't think we're supposed to smoke weed. Every gang in your city smokes it to pull their gangster BS which is really a kind of psychotic relationship to non-locality, something more in the field of psilocybin and LSD.

I swear they've all lost it. Before someone rips my head off, does anyone agree?

I mean reality is abstract, people can go insane in all sorts of different ways that will never be noticed by the health system. Maybe cannabis isn't schizophrenia but it's definitely an ongoing psychosis.

That is not mind expansion... you are having a break.

Again, I'd just like to see if anyone agrees, and not just make a thread to insult people or be insulted for being outrageous.

The only reason I'm talking like/about this is because I saw Virginia legalized and so that's what 17 states now, and I'm pretty sure this whole thing is a massive mental health crisis. Just massive.



Cancer patients, PTSD patients, people that are losing other meds because of uneducated people like you, pain patients from bad accidents, people that can't be treated through medicine for insomnia, trauma patients, seizure patients that would have life threatening seizures all would disagree with you. Pot also helps with getting people off hard drugs and alcohol which is proven to destroy lives through liver disease,domestic violence,murder,theft, drunk driving, causes seizures sand death in DTs it's a proven contribution to suicide.

If you drink every once in a while you're a complete hypocrite and don't understand the cutting edge medical potential. Even when I was 14 12 years ago I have an unexplained bowel disease that's like IBS  and at age 14 some of the best doctors on the west coast told me to try medical cannabis. I went from failing school to straight As I got off 7 rx  meds that were killing me because of it so you can fuck off with trying to force something you don't understand on people.


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #26614149 - 04/20/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Easy man, he’s obviously just a simple slime mold from some random shroomery member’s long forgotten grow that just reached sentience and is still figuring things out...damn.



:likeaboss:

Come to think of it, there’s been a lot of them on the boards now a days...

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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26614230 - 04/20/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just some observations. See you round!


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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26641975 - 05/01/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: I think everyone who smokes weed is schizophrenic and something should be done to stop legalization [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #26642122 - 05/01/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think you miss the larger point of legalization: a little equity for those who have been senselessly incarcerated over a plant.


I am okay if you make the personal decision not to use it yourself.  However, I also think it is unfair of you to surmise that all people who use cannabis experience some type of psychosis while under its influence.


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