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Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS
    #26608460 - 04/17/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



The variety is Mexican dutch king. Is the white pin just an albino forming? There are a few other pins that look like this as well within the same shoebox.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26608813 - 04/17/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Nobody knows what the white pin is? Or is it an albino


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26608940 - 04/17/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

There are two...
Have to wait and see. It might be shaggy mane or some other contaminate mushrooms hitching a ride.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Sockadin]
    #26609632 - 04/18/20 05:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, probably ink mushrooms, although i thought that they grow mostly in nitrogen-rich subs, like compost or manure. wait and see.

I would love it if you posted updates with pictures...


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Ombisha]
    #26609701 - 04/18/20 06:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That's it. Ink caps not shaggy mane. That's what I ment, lol blame the drink.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Sockadin]
    #26609904 - 04/18/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yea I can totally post more pics. It's gotten super long overnight. And yes there's more than one. Also your correct in that this is manure based substrate


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26610415 - 04/18/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



Update: not maturing yet. seems to just be some other kind of variety. Looks more like a c.cyan or inky cap.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26610464 - 04/18/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

it doesn't really look like a ink cap to me aren't they usually more of a greyish color?


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: gizmo1]
    #26610533 - 04/18/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Honestly gizmo that's why I asked cause the inky cap was questionable to me as well....although is have heard of (psilocybe mexicana) or something like that to be known to grow along side a cube and those are defnetly much greyer so I really don't know what it is. I'll post pics again when it matures for a more definitive ID.

Although if it turns out to be an albino MDK then I'm definitely cloning it hah


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26610537 - 04/18/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Keep us updated


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: exzile]
    #26610679 - 04/18/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well last time this came up I learned that if it’s actually an albino then there’s usually more than one...so there’s that.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: A.k.a]
    #26610690 - 04/18/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like typical bad conditions and just a sad thin white cube


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26610695 - 04/18/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



And even shiitake when in bad conditions



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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26610790 - 04/18/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

wow, thats quite the plot twist bodhisatta. I have never seen cubes growing next to each other looking so different, but, if you say so...

keep us updated OP :confused2:


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Ombisha]
    #26610894 - 04/18/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

aka -There's actually like 3 or 4 total in the box but they are all very small in comparison to the others. My first thought was albino  but I'm starting to think otherwise.

Here's a pic of the full box



BOD what would you say could be improved as far as conditions? Your a God amongst men so your opinion is always greatly appreciated.

Thanks for all the help everybody.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26610907 - 04/18/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Weird how long and skinny it is. And that they’re close to each other.

The rest look relatively good.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: A.k.a]
    #26611358 - 04/18/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'll take more pics in the morning but it's actual growing off of the cube....like literally from the stem ha


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26611480 - 04/18/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Here are some update pics





You can see the main one I've been discussing on the bottom right hand side


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Ombisha]
    #26611511 - 04/18/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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wow, thats quite the plot twist bodhisatta. I have never seen cubes growing next to each other looking so different, but, if you say so...

keep us updated OP :confused2:




Here's one of mine that did it.



But the OP doesn't even look right. It's like a parasite off the other.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26612216 - 04/19/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Here's one of mine that did it.



But the OP doesn't even look right. It's like a parasite off the other.





Wow... that looks fucking amazing. How does this happen? I assume you weren't using spores?


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Ombisha]
    #26612221 - 04/19/20 07:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah Im gonna go with Not a Cube... The stem and cap don't look anything like the other mushrooms. Take a print of it when it opens trip, see if it has any color to the spores.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Sockadin]
    #26612241 - 04/19/20 07:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It probably won't make spores at all because it's a sickly little thing


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26613730 - 04/19/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well guys I'm 95% sure it's not a cube. All the rest of the specimens have matured and non of the little white fuckers even opened their cap. Sorry bod but unless you know of a cube that doesn't bruise blue and is all white then you are sadly mistaken :frown: not only does it not bruise blue but the cap opened with no veil. They are currently drying but I believe they are some form of inky cap.

While yes you are correct in it being a sickly little thing it is more than likely not a cube.

Thanks for all your help though guys!
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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26613951 - 04/19/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Then post more pics to ID forum


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26614978 - 04/20/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I already covered the main angles in different pics. There's no reason to post the "front" and the "back" or sides when they all look the same.
Thanks for the help though i had someone else ID it but you guys still rock!


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26615148 - 04/20/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well what was it?

I’m super curious now, never seen what appears to be a parasitic mushroom before.

Although it could just be a coincidence the one grew right on the cube since there’s another white one on its own.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: A.k.a]
    #26615814 - 04/20/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21721524#21721524

That's a similar thread I found on here. That's almost identical 1000%


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26615836 - 04/20/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Those don't look remotely close to what you have


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26615907 - 04/20/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The caps opened up just like it. And even had that folded look to it. The pics I took were on day one. Day two they looked the same and day three (same day most of the cubes opened) the opened just barely with no veil just like I mentioned.
All white
Didn't bruise blue
VERY small in comparison to even the smallest of cube pins.
Sockadin seemed to see what I saw.

As much as I would LOVE to say this was some type of cube it has ZERO characteristics of any other cubes including the cubes growing alongside it.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26615969 - 04/20/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah but you missed the post after the other close up where I said. Oh crap Bod is right again. I don't know if it was on this thread or a different one. But yeah I now agree , (and should always :rofl: with Bodhisatta.)
Besides, he has the TC tag not me..

It's just a funky cube.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Sockadin]
    #26616075 - 04/20/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I find those down in the park by me. cool looking gills on them, but it doesn't look like what you have. How about about some good pictures of now?


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Sockadin]
    #26616088 - 04/20/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'll stick to my gut on this one. I even decided to taste one and it literally tastes like ammonia or some kind of pesticide.
These things commonly grow in the Carolinas where im from alongside of cubes literally on the same patch.
I'd just hate for someone else to waste time on trying to grow something like this cause they thought it was an albino like i did.
Or worse for someone to eat them and get incredibly sick. And now after tasting them id have to respectfully say this thing has zero cube qualities.
Even the sickest of cubes look better than this (I have plenty of ugly cubes to compare to)
Seems like these little bastsrds are very rare indoors but i did supply the manure sub from an online supplier so for all i know the poo came from someone who had their own farm and poorly pasteurized the sub before shipping it.
I've never had any fresh cube taste like a bottle of ammonia before but it was so powerful i immediately spit it out.
(I only ate the cap portion so i don't think the flavor was from anything else)

For kicks and giggles i did go ahead and toss a piece from inside the stem onto an agar plate but im new to agar so ill keep anyone who's interested on this updated.
BOD you are the man in my book and I've looked up to you for a long time and I don't wanna make this thread look like some kind of argument because you are obviously much more skilled in this subject than i am but based on
1.zero bruising
2.no veil
3.tastes like chemicals
4. If he specimens in same box all have same traits

Im going to "lean towards" it not being a cube.
Untill someone can explain why any type of cube can have these characteristics as well then I'd hope no one wastes time trying to grow this thinking it's a cube.

I would post more pics if i hadn't already harvested this box and attempted eating one and have since thrown it away other than the piece i used on agar which i can let pics of that if someone wants...


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26616100 - 04/20/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



I did find this pic i took of the one that grew directly off the stem of the cube


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    #26617897 - 04/21/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That picture proves it, those are just small stretched out leucistic cubensis.
You dont have any other species but psilocybe cubensis


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: TheDuder]
    #26618004 - 04/21/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I mean that would be great. I don't exactly want any other species. But they are definitely inky caps. I found 2 more on the start of this next flush so I'll let it open up again and post pics of the cap once it matures and show the "folded" nature of the caps.

Seems like some older heads on here are getting a little butthurt at the fact that they are not cubes.

The taste of ammonia is all I need to know this isn't a cube.

So unless some of you guys want to promote the idea that a mushroom that tastes like ammonia is ok to eat then I think we should just agree to disagree and move on. I still have yet to see proof from anyone who thinks it's a cube and based on other threads where being wrong seems to upset some people then I can clearly see why this is upsetting some haha

I was actually in high hopes that it was an albino but after seeing the lack of veil and inky cap shaped mature caps it's definitely not a cube. I even dig into a spot where one grew and under the surface was a very oddly colored patch. Kinda looked like a yellowish/green bubbly looking contamination area.

I'd highly recommend no one who experienced this mistake to follow the advice of it being a cube. Could cause a bad reaction and as we all know "if your not 100% sure then don't eat it"

And since no one can provide a definitive answer I think it's safer for people to assume it's not a cube.

Its very obvious that bod doesn't like to be wrong or have anyone else provide new information that he hasn't experienced personally and rather than be safe im gonna remind people not to eat a mushroom they are not positive is psychoactive.
If you wanna assume they are cubes and eat them then by all means go for it.

Me on the other hand will stick to eating the beautiful looking (maybe not the best of the best) MDKs that grew just fine around these strange looking specimens.

I may not have 1000s of posts or be a TC but I'm definitely not stupid enough to waste my time on something no one can provide proof for and that firsthand characteristics go AGAINST the traits that most cubes have.
Reminder: it didn't bruise blue, it has no veil when it matures, and it literally tastes like cat piss.....nothing like any leucistic cubensis I've ever seen.
And anyone who's gone picking in the Carolinas will have for sure stumbled upon these in the fields. When you try to dry them they literally disappear sometimes leaving bugs in its place.

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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26618019 - 04/21/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Tripglass, after the last picture you posted, i wouldnt doubt it being a cube... if not for the things you claim, like the taste and such...

By all means, post pics if they mature! I am really invested in this now.

If it turns out, that it is a cube, and you are successful at cloning it, wouldn't you mind if i suggested a name for it? I would call it "Klonvocation", which means a gathering of kkk members.


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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Ombisha]
    #26618605 - 04/21/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

There's no inky cap there


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    #26618840 - 04/21/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ombisha i will be happy to allow you that honor and while i may be blonde hair and blue eyed I dont know of the kkk thing is the best but hey if that's what you wanna do go for it my man!

I actually attempted to swab the gills with a qtip and crazy as it sounds the qtip came out green! Makes me think they may be some kind of lepiota.

I contacted a buddy of mine who is working in Colorado with some specialists and i emailed him some pics so maybe ill hear back from him soon.

Im new to the agar but the clone i tried to make has sort of a rust colored look to it. Granted i had bacteria on lots of other clones I've tried using cubes i have yet to get this amber looking color to it.

I wish i had been correct in mg assumptions of this being an albino MDK. I was super excited to have gotten an albino but I've been sadly mistaken :frown: 
Hard for some people to admit being wrong but in this ever changing world and having lived for 30 years ive had my eyes opened from things i would have never expected to be true. And having lived on both coasts and seeing how different people's beliefs can be I've learned that the truly intellectual people are those who enjoy learning NEW things and in the world of mushrooms new things pop up everyday.
Some people spend years of trial and error and get upset when someone new surpasses them using little or almost zero experience/knowledge.
Im still very new to the world of cultivation but I can now say between the other post i found on here and what I've seen firsthand this little booger DEFINETLY isn't a cube and may or may not be an inky cap. These "green" spores have now thrown me for an even bigger loop haha but hey anything is possible in this world
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Re: Albino Mexican dutch king? Or cyan growing beside a cube?PICS [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26620033 - 04/21/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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:facepalm: it's clearly a cube dude.
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