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Offlineahatchingegg
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Feeling dumb
    #26607957 - 04/17/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

On Reddit, there's always these people posting pictures of monotubs in full bloom saying FIRST GROW EVER! and it makes me feel like such an idiot. My first attempt at PF Tek gave me barely any yield at all. I switched to monotubs for my first try and fucked that up by sticking my spawn bags into a sleeping bag to keep warm, not realizing the importance of the filter patch and FAE. I realized in time to save two bags but only ended up getting about an oz of mushrooms from each over 3 sparse flushes. I ended up with a ton of aborts, I'm guessing from using coir as my casing material but who knows.

This new batch, I couldn't find any rye berries so I decided to do WBS. But I think this one tek that had no soaking led to not enough moisture so it stalled after half colonizing the jar. I decided to put the grain to bulk yesterday with some horse manure compost I shoveled up at a local equestrian center. Only too late did I realize I probably didn't prepare it correctly and it probably has too much ammonia content and I have likely wasted by grain spawn. Well that won't happen again. I've got the rest in a dehydrator at 145 to leech out all the ammonia before I try to make another batch of substrate.

I just don't understand how a smart person like me manages to make mistake after mistake and these other fuckers on reddit have beautiful results on their very first time. It is so frustrating.


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: ahatchingegg] * 1
    #26607971 - 04/17/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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ahatchingegg said:
I just don't understand how a smart person like me manages to make mistake after mistake and these other fuckers on reddit have beautiful results on their very first time. It is so frustrating.




The world is a humbling place :lol: Recognize that these issues can happen to anyone and none of us are above it, these are all learning experiences that you're taking with you to become even better the next time. It took me 3~4 first attempts to get a successful first one, and I'm sure many others can relate. You know what you know now and just work on tightening your technique and whats due to come to you will.


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: ahatchingegg] * 1
    #26608005 - 04/17/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah trust me, for every seemingly perfect flush you see posted, there are probably 10+ others that have experienced the same troubles as you. Ofc you won't be seeing to much of their failed attempts posted on reddit. Don't be discouraged mate


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: evlyshrooms] * 1
    #26608012 - 04/17/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Learn to grow here, then post your results on Reddit. The other way around is going to be pure fail. Reading what you describe is your process sounds like you are taking tips from a mushroom sub on Reddit, then coming here for clarification.


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: ramthroughram] * 1
    #26608019 - 04/17/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have never failed!!! I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work!!!....Albert Einstein
As a newbie to bulk myself I will tell you not to give up.... refine your technique.. study... and you will prevail!! Just had my first success in bulk after a few failures and the time spent making mistakes was worth it. Slow down and breathe brother


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: 2speedlarry]
    #26608027 - 04/17/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hpoo must be weathered and dried out .. you can’t use fresh Hpoo.  Plus even when using weathered dried Hpoo it has to be sterilized..  at least I did ages ago .


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: Bsfixit]
    #26608381 - 04/17/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Bsfixit said:
Hpoo must be weathered and dried out .. you can’t use fresh Hpoo.  Plus even when using weathered dried Hpoo it has to be sterilized..  at least I did ages ago .




And by weathered I mean rained on water leaches the bad stuff out of it ... so likely at least 6 months old.  Better yet 1 year out in the elements


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: Bsfixit]
    #26608427 - 04/17/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Trick is to land on a trusted tek and follow it to a T. PF tek is very useful to learn how to do things with discipline. Do things clean within proper temp, humidity and light ranges. Little cakes never produce much weight.


Hpoo wants to be pasturized, not steralized. It should be aged, pulverized and hydrated to field capacity first.

Cannot stress enough to follow a trusted tek. Read read read.


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: InfraredRick]
    #26608437 - 04/17/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Man if you just pick a solid method and follow directions without cutting corners it’s very hard to mess up.

Stick to coir!


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: A.k.a]
    #26608447 - 04/17/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm gonna be honest... I'm a little bit retarded myself.  So here's a confession that is hard to make but nevertheless you should hear it. I went for atleast like two years not using the jiggler on my pressure cooker and I wondered why I always got contams...:dawerp:



The only reason I didn't give up is because I'm persistent be it fucking up over and over I'm still gonna try again. That's what it takes to be successful in not just this hobby but life in general.

Try, try, try, and try again. :cheers:

Oh an I finally got the jiggler for my PC... Lol


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26608453 - 04/17/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Lol wait didn’t you notice the psi wasn’t going up without it??


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: A.k.a]
    #26608536 - 04/17/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, lol. My thinking was that it didn't matter I guess I thought just cooking it was killing the contams... Since letting it get up to psi and stuff I get way less contams. I would just cook the hell out it tho. Worked sometimes.


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26608545 - 04/17/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Now that is funny


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: shevanel]
    #26608597 - 04/17/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:hahawtf::whoak:


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: Smartattack]
    #26608616 - 04/17/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What teks you using bro?

Try coco coir as a sub. Its super easy to work with.

I would suggest starting with shoeboxes.

How are you inoculating your jars?

I use wbs too

I dont soak it, i use foomans tek. Usually let it dry longer than what he recommends, sometimes even overnight with good results

Youre already learning man.

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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26608623 - 04/17/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

@ Ovoid lol that smiley face suits you if u fcked up that basic fundamental


Edited by DezGWest7 (04/17/20 05:11 PM)


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: DezGWest7]
    #26608644 - 04/17/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

DezGWest7 way to be positive. Keep talking your shit an being negative. See how far that gets you.
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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26608698 - 04/17/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I failed, failed, and continued to fail through contamination, sparce harvests, and overall had a bad time till I copped on to some good practices.

Research, then implement.


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: mushhead]
    #26608769 - 04/17/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Lotta growing in a lot of ways in this thread, I dig it 🙂


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Re: Feeling dumb [Re: ramthroughram]
    #26611178 - 04/18/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks. I do feel like I'm learning. I may not be coming out of each attempt with a grand flush of mushrooms, but I am coming out of it with knowledge. It's one thing to blindly follow instructions, but another thing to understand why each step is important. I wish I knew someone locally who I could learn from but the legal status makes it kinda difficult.


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