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Misting and pinning?
    #26605835 - 04/16/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys so I am wondering what the consensus is. I'm doing bods unmodified and am confused by all the conflicting advice. RR says to not mist hyphal knots and the "proper surface conditions" thread says to always have beads on the surface. I have a fan in the room so my surface doesn't stay beaded up longer than 2-3 days and I am using a "fine mist" hairspray mister thing so the beads are really small initially. I just got the first few pins today but also gave it a misting and nice fan so the pins don't abort, since the surface was completely devoid of droplets. The sides (where the sub meets the tub) have large droplets. I am getting some bruising though and was curious if I could be over misting even if I don't have droplets on the surface. Any advice?

Pins-


Slight Bruising-


Side Droplets-


Dry Surface-


After Mist-


Any advice is much appreciated :smile:


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: trismegistus1]
    #26605848 - 04/16/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Small beads on the surface is my vote.


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: trismegistus1]
    #26605865 - 04/16/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

In my experience - misting while the tub is pinning leads to higher rate of aborts (possibly due to verticillium)

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I'm all about that beads of moisture thing, but I stop misting when pins appear


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: Growtech]
    #26605890 - 04/16/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Does the last picture after misting look like it's enough mist? On the surface conditions pictures the dude has hugeee beads of mist.


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: Ombisha]
    #26605895 - 04/16/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Alright I was definitely field capacity with my substrate, I will probably hold off misting after this one and see what happens. Can you comment on the slight blue hue on the bruising picture I posted? Could this be from overmisting/undermisting? There are a few spots where the mycelium is blueish like that.


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: trismegistus1]
    #26605897 - 04/16/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'd say the smaller beads are more ideal (more surface area of the beads to speed evaporation), but larger beads means you don't need to remist as often.


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: trismegistus1]
    #26605898 - 04/16/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think you're on point, OP. That bruising in pic #2 is hardly noticeable and not concerning. I've done much, much, much worse and had success. It probably just got a bit dry and stressed.

Make sure that your fan is far away from your tub, on low, and pointed at the wall if you haven't set it up that way. It's really just to make sure that the air doesn't stagnate. RH and convection take care of the rest.

Judging from those knots I'd say keep doing what you've been doing and you should see an explosion of pins very soon. With mist that fine my feeling is that the chances of you getting aborts are slim to none. Finer beads seem better than big droplets from my experience, and the surface conditions pictures are a little deceiving in CBK's (excellent) tek. Think dew drops in the morning on a spider web and not after a rainfall.


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: trismegistus1]
    #26605901 - 04/16/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The last picture looks great.

Try to keep it like that.  I’ve never had problems misting knots or pins, as long as you don’t drown them it’ll be fine. I get way more aborts from dryness which is what causes bruising.


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26605909 - 04/16/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome, great to hear! I've read to mist until a few days before harvest and fan to make sure the mist isn't sticking onto the fruits, would you recommend that?


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: Morbility]
    #26605914 - 04/16/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the advice you have given me relief about the blue spots haha


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: trismegistus1]
    #26605921 - 04/16/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’ll occasionally mist tubs that are further along but usually once the pins get like an inch tall they create enough of a microclimate to hold moisture on the surface.

Misting bigger shrooms will only be a problem if there’s big water drops just sitting on the cap forever but even then it usually just causes a little discolored spot.


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26605931 - 04/16/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome man thanks a ton!


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: trismegistus1]
    #26605997 - 04/16/20 02:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ill mist tf out of some pins.


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Re: Misting and pinning? [Re: shevanel]
    #26606093 - 04/16/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Haha good deal, I feel like my tub was getting dry when it needed it the most so will keep this "small mist" layer up!


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