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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26605595 - 04/16/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The investigation resulted in mutilple convictions and indictments.

You’re ridiculous


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: koods]
    #26605609 - 04/16/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Not for "any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump"


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
    #26605626 - 04/16/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So, you're suggesting that law enforcement should be fired if they investigate something and don't find evidence of it?  That sounds like a recipe for disaster and corruption.  We already have enough law enforcement officers who manufacture evidence.  Why would you want to give them a financial incentive to do it?


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26605645 - 04/16/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No, that's not what I'm suggesting.  Don't let koods confuse you.

I'm suggesting we not open witch hunts.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26605651 - 04/16/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

How does one know it's a witch hunt until one investigates?  What you're saying is the equivalent of punishing law enforcement for being wrong.  If someone starts an investigation, he/she would be placing his/her job on the line.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26605653 - 04/16/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

He likes investigations with predetermined results.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: koods]
    #26605730 - 04/16/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If you guys think it's ok to conduct investigations into people just because you don't like them, then we'll have to disagree.  If you guys think there was enough evidence to start an investigation, people intimately familiar with the case say the Russia probe was started 'without any basis'.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26605764 - 04/16/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You said it, dude - “the Russia probe”
As in, NOT “the Trump probe”

The primary reason for it was to prove that Russia interfered in the election. This was proven.

If you wanna toss out the fact that multiple people associated with the Trump 2016 campaign were indicted in this process, that’s fine. It’s still crazy to call an investigation that resulted in convictions “a witch hunt”.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26605769 - 04/16/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Investigations happen based on hunches all the time in this country.  Sometimes, they come up empty.  Sometimes, as in the Russia probe, they yield results.  I don't understand why you'd have a problem with investigation.  Is it about the money?  Don't you think it's worth spending some money to determine whether our commander-in-chief is up to shenanigans?


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26605773 - 04/16/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not sure AG Barr can be considered a source of unbiased opinion.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26605783 - 04/16/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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The primary reason for it was to prove that Russia interfered in the election. This was proven.



You forgot this thread already?  Better reread it.  The case for election interference was dropped and never proven.  The OP explains why it didn't happen.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26605792 - 04/16/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Investigations happen based on hunches all the time in this country.  Sometimes, they come up empty.  Sometimes, as in the Russia probe, they yield results.  I don't understand why you'd have a problem with investigation.  Is it about the money?  Don't you think it's worth spending some money to determine whether our commander-in-chief is up to shenanigans?




You know the law better than me.  If people can be investigated simply due to hunches, then I've learned something new.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: relic]
    #26605797 - 04/16/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not sure AG Barr can be considered a source of unbiased opinion.



I'm sure he's biased.  But I haven't seen any evidence other than a hunch, which Enlil now tells me is enough.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26605805 - 04/16/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know what makes you think the case was dropped.  The federal criminal case against 12 Russian intelligence officers is very much still open.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26605807 - 04/16/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Investigations happen based on hunches all the time in this country.  Sometimes, they come up empty.  Sometimes, as in the Russia probe, they yield results.  I don't understand why you'd have a problem with investigation.  Is it about the money?  Don't you think it's worth spending some money to determine whether our commander-in-chief is up to shenanigans?




You know the law better than me.  If people can be investigated simply due to hunches, then I've learned something new.



Yeah, there's no constitutional right not to be investigated.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26605815 - 04/16/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't know what makes you think the case was dropped.  The federal criminal case against 12 Russian intelligence officers is very much still open.



They all worked for Concord, the case against which was dropped.  It's over.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26605821 - 04/16/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That's absolutely false.  Federal case number 1:18-CR-00215 in the district of Columbia is 100% still open and pending against 12 Russian intelligence officers who were indicted.  It's a matter of public record.  You can open a PACER account today and view it for free. (They'll tell you there's a per page charge, but if you view less than a certain amount each quarter, it's waived.)


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26605830 - 04/16/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)
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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26605836 - 04/16/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I get it.  You're doing the lawyer thing and arguing a retarded technicality.

Everyone who was indicted worked for Concord, and the case against Concord was dropped.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26605843 - 04/16/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Again, you haven't supported that with any evidence.  Nothing in that indictment says anything about Concord.  They were indicted as individuals for crimes related to election interference.  If those people set foot in this country, they will likely be arrested and face trial for those crimes.  There was no dismissal of that case or any defendant therein.

You're just believing fake news again.


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