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Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? * 1
    #26605819 - 04/16/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I always feel a headchange as soon as I swallow my dose of shrooms. It's not like tripping at all, but my consciousness seems different. Like my body is aware of what is coming. The first time I tripped I assumed this was just jitters, but now, years and trips and trips later, I still have that feeling as soon as I eat the shrooms. Anyone else experience this?


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: SpaceDrooze]
    #26605834 - 04/16/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes , any dose of any psychedelic really, a perspective shift if you will


Noticed this first when eating LSD tabs :awesomenod:


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #26605840 - 04/16/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That's really interesting because I've never experienced it with LSD, only shrooms.

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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: SpaceDrooze]
    #26606074 - 04/16/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I always feel a headchange as soon as I swallow my dose of shrooms. It's not like tripping at all, but my consciousness seems different. Like my body is aware of what is coming. The first time I tripped I assumed this was just jitters, but now, years and trips and trips later, I still have that feeling as soon as I eat the shrooms. Anyone else experience this?





Nah...not immediately. I mean I might feel some "excitement" or some sort of feeling/emotion and a shift in my head-space because I (and my body/system) know what's about to happen as soon as I swallow the dose....but as far as feeling the first distinct "first alert" and first sign of lifting off baseline because psilocin has started to "plug into" my receptors, nah that does not happen immediately, it usually takes 1 to 5 minutes for me.

If one is feeling a shift in their head-space immediately after they swallow their dose then I'd consider that to totally be a placebo effect...It usually takes a little while for the actives to make their way into the blood stream and into the brain, that does not happen a soon as the mushrooms are swallowed (if you chew up your mushrooms really well and you have them in your mouth for a while before for you swallow them, then perhaps some alkaloids are absorbing through your mouth, but still it wouldn't be an immediate effect)....and if the mushrooms are relatively low in psilocin then it certainly is placebo because the psilocybin needs to be metabolized into psilocin before any effects are noticed and that does not happen immediately after one swallows the mushrooms, first-pass metabolism needs to occur first and that will take a little while).

For me...Usually around 1 to 5 minutes after swallowing or drinking my dose I start to feel the first shift in my head space and first signs of lifting off baseline...It's a very distinct feeling that I only experience from tryptamines specifically. With tea, I can feel the first shift in head-space within about 1 minute after drinking it, and tea goes into ones system much more rapidly than eating mushrooms. With eating them, it's usually more like 3 to 5 minutes before I feel the "first alert".




With LSD, with around 100mcg to 200mcg, I feel the first signs of lifting off baseline/shift in head-space within about 1 minute...I always dose my LSD sublingually , so it goes into my blood stream and flows into my brain quite rapidly....When dosing more than 200mcg+, I do feel it damn near immediately after it is under my tongue, within 30 seconds





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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: SpaceDrooze]
    #26606077 - 04/16/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes I’ve noticed it within a few minutes of drinking lemon tea quite often. Never thought much of it though, because as you say, you’re not tripping yet. Hmm


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: openmind]
    #26606090 - 04/16/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That's exactly why I asked. I expect it to be a placebo. Especially since it seems to happen the strongest when I can taste it the most (e.g. when I chew whole shrooms vs tea or powder which should enter the system much more quickly).

It's always been bizarre to me that I feel this embodied "knowing" as soon as I swallow it. I definitely want it to be the million-year-old man inside of me having an archetypal awakening, but it's probably just bullshit lol


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: SpaceDrooze]
    #26606781 - 04/16/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I get the pre flight jitters too. I would also say I begin to feel them within 15min. Depending on tea vs whole I would say the first reality shattering wave gets me around 30 to 45 minutes. But I think it might just be anticipation of whats coming; the experience can be very difficult if not terror inducing but blissful too.


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26607034 - 04/17/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

depends on how its taken - tea i can tell it's kicking in within 10 minutes, sometimes within several. if it's capsules it takes longer, sometimes as much as 20-30 minutes, more if i ate something recently.

definitely not placebo though - not when you've taken a high dose of PEU tea, like 7g dried with rue and you start feeling the effects within several minutes lol. it's pretty obvious it's not just placebo then. :rofl2:


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: Psion]
    #26607360 - 04/17/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

As soon as that tea hits my tongue, I have a tingling feeling in head and body. Haven't done whole in years and capsules for microdoseing.


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: SpaceDrooze]
    #26607501 - 04/17/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

anticipation



the strangest part is when visuals begin and we are flooded with panoramas of fractal and cartoony images, they seem normal yet there seems no way to describe them or draw them or otherwise take them back as souvenirs.

the state of mind becomes so different when you are peaking, that I wonder how our minds can normally be so limited.


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: FrankRhizo]
    #26607972 - 04/17/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That's what it's like for me too. I don't even have to have swallowed yet and I get a similar feeling to when I microdose. There is a certain increase in my physical awareness. Colors are brighter etc. It's not like the come up when the drugs actually take hold. It's like a sweet little "hello" from the mushroom, letting me know we'll be meeting soon.


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: SpaceDrooze] * 1
    #26610012 - 04/18/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Definitely, I like to go with it and deliberately get into a psychedelic headspace before the come up has even started. I always make tea out of mushrooms but I never drink tea otherwise, I decided to try some a couple days ago. The first taste of tea brought back that weird feeling for a little bit.

I'll make some tea.


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: SpaceDrooze]
    #26610066 - 04/18/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Definitely. Is it just the placebo effect, or something more?

Sometimes I get a feeling of being on shrooms just by holding the shrooms or smelling them. Its a trip.

I suspect that fresh mushrooms have near-instant absorption and could be transdermally active on the hands.


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26610550 - 04/18/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Definitely. Is it just the placebo effect, or something more?

Sometimes I get a feeling of being on shrooms just by holding the shrooms or smelling them. Its a trip.

I suspect that fresh mushrooms have near-instant absorption and could be transdermally active on the hands.





Nah...The alkaloids in mushrooms are not capable of magically jumping out of the cells within the mushrooms and through the cells of ones skin and into the blood stream. No one is going to ever get high or start tripping just by handling/holding mushrooms. There is no route/mechanism for the alkaloids to go from inside the cells of the mushrooms and into one's blood stream.

I've handled many pounds of fresh woodlovers like cyans & allenii on many different occasions over the years. They are super potent mushrooms, I have never got "high" in anyway just by picking/holding/handling them. But I certainly do feel "enchanted" by them when I am in their presence and admiring them.


Getting a feeling like one is tripping just by holding a mushroom or smelling them is called placebo....No doubt one's mind will associate the smell of mushrooms with the experience, same in regards to when one is chewing up & swallowing mushrooms, certain feelings/memories will come to the surface from such...Just like the smell of DMT can give me a flood of feelings/memories of past trips...But no psilocin is getting into the brain by holding or smelling a mushroom, and no psilocin has reached the brain yet when one has just merely swallowed their dose of mushrooms.





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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: SpaceDrooze]
    #26611193 - 04/18/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No, but it's a known phenomenon in psychology where expecting and anticipating the action of a drug causes you to feel it in advance of its actual effects. When taking ibuprofen, people often report improvement before the drug has even had a chance to take effect. It's the same thing. That also might be why just holding them makes you feel a bit off. Same with holding heroin for a heroin user. Your brain knows what's coming and expects it so it creates a kind of placebo effect in advance of the actual effect.

Mushrooms in particular take a lot of time to take effect when I take them. LSD I can feel within 25 minutes, but it seems like mushrooms take about an hour for me, sometimes more if they're dry.


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26611938 - 04/19/20 02:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

After reading this post earlier in the week, I decided to focus on this aspect on Friday when I had 3.5g Mazatapec tea.

Now the trip itself was really poor, should probably have doubled the doses to get a reasonable headspace.

BUT, even so, I definitely noticed within a minute of drinking the tea, that my upper body was tingling!

Could well be placebo, but I definitely notice “something” :eek:


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26612096 - 04/19/20 05:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I get a little jittery but personally I think that's just me being anxious for what's to come. Also psilocybin and psilocin are definitely not active transdermally


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Re: Do you guys feel a headchange as soon as you swallow shrooms? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26612847 - 04/19/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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anticipation



the strangest part is when visuals begin and we are flooded with panoramas of fractal and cartoony images, they seem normal yet there seems no way to describe them or draw them or otherwise take them back as souvenirs.

the state of mind becomes so different when you are peaking, that I wonder how our minds can normally be so limited.




I like when they seem to either come from a the center of mind-space-time itself, or really really far away gradually becoming more apparent  (if eyes closed and watching in anticipation for where they come from like moving through space and gradually coming closer and closer to a cluster of nebulas.)

A couple times I’ve had my eyes closed (taking a shit) waiting for the trip to start after drinking tea, and I’ll open my eyes, and where there was nothing- suddenly every surface in the house is imbued with ancient alien like dna language or matrix codes and is giving off what appears its own light source even though it’s the dead of night and no lights are on, and doesn’t go away after blinking or with movement or upon touching, not until it changes bc the trips/brain does something else.

Once the thought passed though my mind for a split second that I should take a picture of it and upload it :lmafo:... I should really draw it.  Like draw a detailed yet bare picture of the geometry of the room I’m going to trip in, and when the visual aspect is at its height, fill in the picture with what I’m seeing., because the noumena like glowing hieroglyphic that are coming off everything like a hologram is just so damn interesting.  They can and do morph and transform into incredible things, as if becoming more complex yet simple at the same time if I hit a certain vibrato with my voice.  Trippy man

Try chanting the Hannya shingyo or it’s cousins while there...it’s ineffable.


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