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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: susurrador]
#26604553 - 04/16/20 12:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: Lol why does their race matter? You’re not calling the crowd looking through that window a bunch of white people. I’ve been calling out people who are doing their part this whole thread. I posted a picture today of my (very liberal) neighbors and you even commented on it. (Curiously, you didn’t call them a bunch of white people, either. Seems you only see race when the race is black)
Anyway, these people showed up with trump flags, Qanon shirts and MAGA hats. This was a political protest against stay at home orders, and their political affiliation is completely relevant. Their race is not.
You're implying I said race matters, which I specifically said the composition of the groups is a moot point no matter the race or political affiliation.
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The political affiliation of a group engaged in a political protest doesn’t matter? Lol
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26604555 - 04/16/20 12:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: Sorry I was replying to eminence
What demographic is effected the most disproportionately here again due to not taking precautions? I'm pretty sure it is black people. Doesn't matter if you're not explicitly naming the race of these Trump supporters. Obviously my point is most blacks aren't Trump supporters but are still the ones doing the least to stop the spread.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Eminence] 5
#26604557 - 04/16/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Eminence said: All presidents and politicians lie and that didn't have anything to do with what I said you were saying you ---Edited for Flaming---. Have the balls to admit what you said at least. Jesus Christ someone just give me a ban already
It’s funny that your anti-black racism is allowed to slide around here but you’re gonna go down for ginger bashing.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26604560 - 04/16/20 12:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not in terms of keeping the thread relevant to the topic of current events impacting front line and essential workers.
As that seems to be the shift in convo that was clearly requested by modfam.
Hence everything I've said about focusing less on the politics and demographics and more on what the people coming to this thread are looking for as front liners.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26604561 - 04/16/20 12:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: This is why were fucked. These people have no sense of patriotism. Not willing to make a single sacrifice for the common good. Michigan has one of the worst outbreaks in the county and these mouth breathers can’t even bother to wear a mask as they pile on top of each other in their mindless rage.
My mother has told me about the things people did in Boston during World War Two to protect the country. Cities turned all the lights out at night so the enemy would not be able to target them. This required people to be in their houses after sunset with the windows covered so no light could get out. These fuckers would habe turned on all the lights and opened their windows because “freedom.” They would have strung the Christmas lights cause “jesus.” The cult of trump has completely fucked this country. They don’t care about anyone but themselves and they’re too fucking stupid to realize they are fucking themselves over too.

Koods ww and ww2 were not fought on american soil btw. ok pearl harbour but that is not in mainland.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Eminence] 1
#26604562 - 04/16/20 12:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Eminence said: All presidents and politicians lie and that didn't have anything to do with what I said you were saying you fat ginger fuck. Have the balls to admit what you said at least. Jesus Christ someone just give me a ban already
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my "lie" was a rhetorical device intended to mirror the behavior of the person you're defending that has resulted in mass casualties and the worst economic disaster since the great depression. hope this helps you understand
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] 2
#26604565 - 04/16/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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fuck dads gonna be pissed when he gets home and sees all this
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koods said: This is why were fucked. These people have no sense of patriotism. Not willing to make a single sacrifice for the common good. Michigan has one of the worst outbreaks in the county and these mouth breathers can’t even bother to wear a mask as they pile on top of each other in their mindless rage.
My mother has told me about the things people did in Boston during World War Two to protect the country. Cities turned all the lights out at night so the enemy would not be able to target them. This required people to be in their houses after sunset with the windows covered so no light could get out. These fuckers would habe turned on all the lights and opened their windows because “freedom.” They would have strung the Christmas lights cause “jesus.” The cult of trump has completely fucked this country. They don’t care about anyone but themselves and they’re too fucking stupid to realize they are fucking themselves over too.

Koods ww and ww2 were not fought on american soil btw. ok pearl harbour but that is not in mainland.
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morrowasted said: First thread in the new subforum
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26603807&page=0&vc=1#26603807
COVID-19: The disease process
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COVID19 basics:
COVID-19 is a disease caused by the virus SARS-CoV-2. It is a type of coronaviruses. Coronaviruses are responsible for approximately 1/3 of the cases of what is called the "common cold", as well as certain very severe diseases like SARS and MERS. It appears that a bat acted as a reservoir for this virus, which mutated inside of a pangolin in such a way that it could be transmitted between humans. The name is intended to be descriptive of the virus, because corona is latin for crown, and the virus is covered in spikes.
The coronavirus consists of a single strand of RNA surrounded by proteins and sugars. The proteins protect the RNA and enable the virus to attach to receptors on cell surfaces. The sugars help the virus evade detection by the immune system. It uses its "s-spikes" to attach to cellular ACE-2 receptors at which point the virus injects its RNA into the cell. Cellular machinery then makes many copies of the RNA, and makes many of the proteins for which the RNA encodes. The newly synthesized RNA is packaged into the newly synthesize proteins, and the new viral particles are ejected from the cell to infect others.
The SARS-CoV-2 virus is about 1micron in diameter, meaning that it can be transmitted in water droplets small enough to float in the air for extended periods of time. The primary mode of transmission is uncertain, but SARS-CoV-2 viral particles have been found in saliva, sputum, blood, and feces.
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Pathophysiology:
This is a fancy word that refers to the various problems that the virus has the potential cause, the sequence in which they tend to occur, the connection between them, and their significance to patient outcomes.
Some aspects of the pathophysiology of COVID-19 are well understood; others are less well understood.
What is known: A) The virus binds to "Type 2 pneumocytes" in the lungs. These cells are responsible for producing a chemical called surfactant, which reduces surface tension in the lungs. As the viral particles are released from the cell, it is destroyed, releasing inflammatory mediators in the process. When surface tension becomes critically low, the alveolus collapses entirely.
B) These inflammtory mediators attract immune cells called macrophages that release chemicals called cytokines into the lungs and bloodstream. These chemicals increase the permeability of the capillaries in the lungs. Over time, this causes fluid to accumulate between the alveoli and the capillary bed- an area called the interstitial space. The fluid trapped in this space makes it more difficult for oxygen and carbon dioxide to diffuse between the capillaries and the alveoli.
C) The same cytokines also attract neutrophils, which release reactive oxygen species and chemicals that break down proteins (proteases) in an attempt to destroy the virus. These chemicals act like a machine gun with bad aim and also damage your own tissues, including type 1 pneumocytes, which are responsible for gas exchange.
D) These damaged tissues accumulate and form what is called consolidation- a collection of debris in the lungs which further impedes function.
E) These cytokines travel through the bloodstream other organs. When they reach the hypothalamus, your body temperature increases. They cause all of your blood vessels to dilate, causing fluid to leak out of them. This reduces blood pressure. When blood pressure is reduced, blood and oxygen cannot perfuse the organs well. Over time, this leads to what is called multi-system organ failure. The liver and kidneys cannot adequately function, which leads to disturbances with blood and platelet production, electrolyte excretion and retention, and regulation of blood pressure.
Hypothetical pathology:
Doctors have noted that COVID19 patients often present with very low levels of oxygen in their arteries, but very little respiratory distress. Furthermore, carbon dioxide levels in these patients are often normal. The level of fluid in the lungs is less than what is typically seen in pulmonary edema caused by pneumonia. COVID19 patients almost always present with highly elevated levels of a chemical called ferritin, which is indicative of the level of iron in the blood. Patients also have evidence that their blood is clotting inside the blood stream, a condition called disseminated intravascular coagulation. In fact, a heart attack or pulmonary embolism caused by one of these clots is a very common cause of death for COVID19 patients. Sometimes patients appear to have recovered from the virus, only to die suddenly of a heart attack 4 days later.
This has led doctors to suggest that the virus is damaging red blood cells such by interfering with the ability the molecule that carries oxygen to incorporate iron into its structure, which is necessary for function.
Thus, the low oxygen levels in the blood may result from a combination of both damaged lungs and damaged blood; however, the principle contributor to low O2 levels in any given patient may vary. Those with pre-existing anemia, may be more likely to experience hypoxemia as a result of the viral effects on the blood, where as those with right-sided heart failure or asthma may be more likely to experience it as a result of effects on the lungs.
The accumulating iron, in conjunction with the inflammation caused by the cytokines released by macrophages, is hypothesized to interfere with the liver and kidneys' ability to control blood clotting, pressure, and heart rhythm (via intravascular electrolyte modulation). These blood clots hinder perfusion to all organs, but they precipitate death when they lodge into a pulmonary or coronary artery.
COVID-19:Attacksthe1-BetaChainofHemoglobinandCapturesthePorphyrintoInhibitHumanHemeMetabolism
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COVID19 Coronavirus: Epidemiology, Pathophysiology, Diagnostics
The best video explaining the "what is known" part
Signs and symptoms of COVID19:
Hypoxemia and respiratory failure, often without altered breathing pattern, especially in the elderly Cough, usually dry 50% of patients have fever on presentation 10% of patients have GI symptoms on presentation Loss of taste/smell May have runny nose, sore throat, headache about 50% of patients have weakness/lethargy some patients report lower back pain
So is this just a reference for this thread?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Eminence] 3
#26604608 - 04/16/20 01:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Eminence said: All presidents and politicians lie and that didn't have anything to do with what I said you were saying you fat ginger fuck. Have the balls to admit what you said at least. Jesus Christ someone just give me a ban already
Seconded.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: deucedbi9] 1
#26604656 - 04/16/20 02:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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This week at my workplace, they have started giving us all brand new surgical masks every day. I have no Idea how they're getting them seeing as hospitals don't even have enough of them, and are having to re-use them. I'm keeping all of mine and sanitizing them. I'll give them out to friends and family, I guess.
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I know a pharmacist that has had the same experience just in the past week.
They're all provided masks at this point.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: deucedbi9]
#26604660 - 04/16/20 02:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Listening to a virology podcast, and apparently many of these antibody tests are show false positives because one of the common cold coronavirus antibody profiles is very similar to the covid antibody.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
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koods said: Listening to a virology podcast, and apparently many of these antibody tests are show false positives because one of the common cold coronavirus antibody profiles is very similar to the covid antibody.
I wonder if that antibody has any effect on sars-cov-2. Could it have something to do with some people having mild symptoms?
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I found several of those little blue rectangular ones yesterday while I was out 'littering'. If I find any more I'll bring them home and sterilise them in the PC.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: deucedbi9] 1
#26604679 - 04/16/20 02:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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deucedbi9 said: I found several of those little blue rectangular ones yesterday while I was out 'littering'. If I find any more I'll bring them home and sterilise them in the PC.
What, just lying around, or in trash cans. I think I'd be just about as eager to pick a surgical mask up off the ground or out of a trash can as I would be to pick up a used condom off the sidewalk.
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Researchers did some computational analysis and determined that the virus that eventually became the covid virus had existed in bats for at least 12 years
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods] 2
#26604703 - 04/16/20 02:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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First hand look at the streets of New York right now. Showcasing the tractor trailer where they keep the bodies.
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that's amazing... here in barcelona it was very quiet until a few days ago, i can only imagine the feeling in a city like new york!
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I have a 'Street master' litter grabber. No hand contact required. Just pick them up with the grab and into my glass bottle bag. I'll fish them out when I get home and tip the bottles into my glass collection box. Straight into an old PC with some bleachy liquid. I doubt any virus would survive the PC for 10 minutes. Whether or not the masks survive the process I don't know.
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