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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26608107 - 04/17/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Says you. The case files available online say the cases are still very open



For at least the 3rd time, I get it.  You want to win the legal argument, while I'm providing the real world argument.

"The case is still open, so who cares about the evidence?"


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26608112 - 04/17/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You keep saying the case was dropped. That's simply false. It's not a technicality. It's a false statement. You're using a false statement as evidence to support your argument.

And because it's still open,  there's almost no chance of the evidence being made public.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: feldman114]
    #26608114 - 04/17/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Concord owned all the troll farms.



Ops, admitted the troll farms are real there, bud. Weren’t they part of the hoax?
If you can figure out they’re real from your computer, why would you assume the FBI didn’t know this? Or should foreign troll farms focused on US elections be legal?



I never said the troll farms don't exist.  What I said was their purpose is click bait advertising and I provided evidence of this.  I got no counter-evidence, just "Fal, why won't you make believe with me?"

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And you’re the one who called it a witch hunt. I just pointed out that, unless you’re lying to yourself, you think a witch hunt ends in the conviction of actual witches.



No, I linked to the definition of a witch hunt:facepalm:

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Witches don’t exist, but Russian election interference does.



Can you provide examples, or must your side continue with make believe?


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26608140 - 04/17/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You keep saying the case was dropped. That's simply false. It's not a technicality. It's a false statement. You're using a false statement as evidence to support your argument.



No, I said they dropped the case against the parent company that everyone else worked for.  Do you think the workers went rogue and did things to interfere in the election on their own?  The indictment specifically said the workers "worked in various capacities to carry out Defendant ORGANIZATION’s interference operations".  :facepalm:

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And because it's still open,  there's almost no chance of the evidence being made public.



It's already been made public, and it's already been analyzed.

Do you really believe the Government suddenly decided it's a "waste of money and time" to find Russians guilty of election interference?  That this really wasn't important anymore?


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26608165 - 04/17/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Let's look at the big picture again.  Concord (the parent company) called bullshit on the election interference charges and voluntarily took this case to court.

The US then dropped the charges against Concord.

Why?

I have a tough time buying Enlil's excuse that this was "a waste of money and time" for the US Federal Government, after taking this all the way through to a few weeks before the trial actually started.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26608180 - 04/17/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Again with the misinformation.  Concord did not volunteer to take it to court.  Concord specifically challenged the jurisdiction of the court.  No hearings were ever held on the merits of the case.  There was never a weighing of the evidence, nor was the evidence ever made public.  The case wasn't dropped.

I don't know what you've read, but the notion that the case against Concord was dropped due to lack of evidence is 100% unsupported by the case files.  Even if you're correct that there was some hidden reason for those specific charges being dropped, that hidden reason certainly didn't result in the charges being dropped against EVERY HUMAN DEFENDANT.  In fact, there are still 25 Russian nationals who are facing felony criminal charges for crimes related to election interference. 

So, as to these Russian nationals, do you have any evidence that they are innocent?  Yeah, I know it's an unfair question.  Why would you?  The same can be said for anyone on this site who can't present evidence of their guilt.  All we have is an indictment.  Details of active investigations are not made public.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26608197 - 04/17/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You're alone in the belief that nothing at all was found. It's a fairytale land where Russia was exonerated which just did not happen.



First of all, I was correct in my signature bet that the Mueller Report would find no evidence of Trump colluding with the Russian Government.  The Mueller Report specifically said that "Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities."

Then you, koods, and a few others insisted that the Mueller Report DID find evidence of Russian election interference, as evidenced by the indictments.  So I then made another signature bet that Concord would either win or the case would have to be dropped due to a lack of evidence.  I won that bet as well.

I find it odd that after being right on this (and so many other things like the Douma chemical attacks), you guys still make believe there's something there.

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You were never right about this all this no evidence bullshit is anecdotal conspiracy crap. Like Enlil said you don't know jack shit about the evidence presented in those indictments or court cases. It's egotistical to say the least to keep saying you won your signature bet (collusion isn't a specific crime they were looking for the mandate was clear on that investigation and you keep trying to rewrite it) or that (after being right on this....) you were never right about this and just about everyone on the shroomery minus 1 or 2 think that your wrong and you constantly ask for proof but when you have links half the time it's another damn opinion piece online also with no proof. It just doesn't scream credibility. Also you know damn well saying that they dropped the case and why did they drop the case because of x and y? Is pure speculation, not fact speculation.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26608326 - 04/17/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Yes. This isn't a simple greater than less than.

You could hire a team of 100 dudes to work digging a ditch with their bare hands, and I can rent a bulldozer and do the exact same shit for a fraction of the cost.

Which is a very good analogy. Trump and Hillary are old school propagandists. They pushed content and tried to reach people. The Russian method simply fooled the existing algorithms into pushing the content they preferred to the people that they wanted to target. Which is why so little of the spending was directly political, because they weren't making ads, they were breaking algorithms.



Source, or make believe?




These guys are a bit behind the ball, but what else do you expect from Time?

Fact it, you either see it or you don't. Clearly, you don't. Being a somewhat intelligent dude that has time to look for sources, you are very good at convincing yourself you are correct.

Here's more.

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Once a blog post was created, the troll exclaimed, “Then the magic began!”

The computers were designed to forward the post to the agency’s countless fake accounts, opening and closing the post to create huge numbers of fake page views.




That's the thing. You think the bots were generating content? Hell no. The bots were generating clicks, upvotes, likes, whatever the platform calls it. This told the algorithm that the article was popular, and so it got pushed into people's news feeds.

Real people generated the content. Smart, well educated professionals wrote a few influential articles and blog posts, and the bots amplified the message by making it seem popular. And then it started showing up in people's twitter feeds with a bunch of likes and shit, and it took off. Then these articles would be discussed at length on forums like this. As a matter of fact, I'm quite certain that this Biden thread is a perfect example. Actually, this one is a better example.. OP read something that popped up on their news feed, due to an algorithm. And chances are, what they read wasn't written by a Russian, either. It was written by an American citizen who read some wacky blog post that got pushed by trolls to the top of *their* news feed, and then they rehashed it and found sources. Why? Because that person was likely a lot like me: white male, upper middle class, fairly educated, but unlike me, they did not have a high paying job. They were likely working some menial bullshit, waiting tables and driving an Uber around on weekends. Probably felt good pretty good when their crappy little blog with maybe a few dozen view per day suddenly had 10,000 new visitors who liked it and subscribed and shared it. For some reason it took a few days for the comments to start popping up, as the number of new visitors went down, but who's paying that close attention anyway?

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As an experiment, since that post I went around and had some people at work Google a relatively nonsense string of words. The Google results I got were different that those my black coworker got, which were different from the old lady, which were different from my teenage sister. Similar, but different. The algorithms know our demographics, and they tailor results that we're most likely to find interesting.

There are ways to find out what algorithms think you are, and they're usually pretty accurate. Last time I dug up info on myself, it came up with: white male, 25-34, income around 125k, very educated.



Do you think Russia is the only one to know to know this?




Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows it. This is Cambridge Analytica's game plan. It's also generated by webcrawlers that dig through public records and then put the results on those shady ass "reputation management" sites that sell repackaged public info for a low monthly subscription of only $5.99.

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This is one of those situations where you either see it or you don't. I never really paid attention until I started selling reddit accounts. Never really understood why someone would be willing to pay $100+ for a reddit account that's a year old and only has a few thousand karma. That's literally a week of casual reddit and waiting a year for a pretty good payout. Then I looked at what happened with the accounts I sold. This happened. Or this. Same thing.

Here's a fun little exercise. You know how coronavirus is fake and the symptoms are just due to exposure to 5g as part of a massive worldwide plan by Bill Gates to implant microchips in people through vaccines? Well, don't take my word for it. I suggest you find a certain Dr. Andrew Kaufman, psychiatrist. Now, I wonder why a psychiatrist who lost their license to practice in the state of Ohio had a shitty little youtube channel for a while, which suddenly went from 100 to 10,000 subscribers overnight, after posting a short little video that racked up half a million views in a day. Guess his message really resonated with the people, huh?

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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26608551 - 04/17/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Again with the misinformation.  Concord did not volunteer to take it to court.



I'm relying on court documents"On April 11, 2018, Concord voluntarily entered an appearance in this case through its U.S.-based counsel."

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Concord specifically challenged the jurisdiction of the court.



That was after they voluntarily entered an appearance and after Mueller tried to cheat by refusing to disclose discovery information to the defendants.

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No hearings were ever held on the merits of the case.  There was never a weighing of the evidence, nor was the evidence ever made public.  The case wasn't dropped.



Well it was 'dismissed' if not dropped.  I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know the difference.  Does it matter?

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I don't know what you've read, but the notion that the case against Concord was dropped due to lack of evidence is 100% unsupported by the case files.



I can't believe you think Mueller would have admitted this was just a witch hunt after Concord challenged him in court.  Of course that's not going to happen.  :facepalm3:

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Even if you're correct that there was some hidden reason for those specific charges being dropped, that hidden reason certainly didn't result in the charges being dropped against EVERY HUMAN DEFENDANT.  In fact, there are still 25 Russian nationals who are facing felony criminal charges for crimes related to election interference.



If you read the court document I posted above, it says "Although Concord Catering has not appeared in this case, the government is seeking its dismissal based on the likelihood that its approach to litigation would be the same as Concord if it did appear."  Maybe legally the case is still technically open for others that worked under Concord, but logically, if the case against the parent who is directing everything gets dismissed, it's almost certain the same would happen for everyone who worked for Concord.

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So, as to these Russian nationals, do you have any evidence that they are innocent?  Yeah, I know it's an unfair question.  Why would you?  The same can be said for anyone on this site who can't present evidence of their guilt.  All we have is an indictment.  Details of active investigations are not made public.



Yes, we have the details, and I keep linking you to it.  That's how I knew I would win this bet and likely how you knew you shouldn't take my bet.

I realize that as a patriotic man you want to believe everything your government tells you about Russia, China, etc.  I'm proud of you for that, but our Government lies a lot.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26608568 - 04/17/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The case wasn't dismissed either.  I don't know how many times I have to say it.  But, since you clearly finally read the motion to dismiss, let me quote it below:

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The United States will continue its efforts to apprehend the individual defendants and bring them before this Court to face the pending charges, but because substantial federal interests are no longer served by continuing with the proceedings against the Concord Defendants, the government moves, respectfully, to dismiss with prejudice Count One of the indictment as to them.




I don't know what your motivation is here to lie like this, but it's crystal clear to me, a trained, experienced legal professional, that the case is still very much pending as to the individual defendants.

Also, you can link all of the opinion pieces you want.  That isn't the same as having the evidence that the government has.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26608571 - 04/17/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You were never right about this all this no evidence bullshit is anecdotal conspiracy crap.



Do you finally have evidence to present?  Or is this yet another "C'mon Fal, let's just make believe together" post?

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Like Enlil said you don't know jack shit about the evidence presented in those indictments or court cases.



Please read my last post above, and feel free to apologize if you're man enough.

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It's egotistical to say the least to keep saying you won your signature bet (collusion isn't a specific crime they were looking for the mandate was clear on that investigation and you keep trying to rewrite it) or that (after being right on this....) you were never right about this and just about everyone on the shroomery minus 1 or 2 think that your wrong and you constantly ask for proof but when you have links half the time it's another damn opinion piece online also with no proof. It just doesn't scream credibility.



Again, if you have evidence not presented, please share.  I'm getting tired of asking.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26608577 - 04/17/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So, you actually believe that you know everything the government does about the investigation?


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26608583 - 04/17/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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The case wasn't dismissed either.  I don't know how many times I have to say it.  But, since you clearly finally read the motion to dismiss, let me quote it below:

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The United States will continue its efforts to apprehend the individual defendants and bring them before this Court to face the pending charges, but because substantial federal interests are no longer served by continuing with the proceedings against the Concord Defendants, the government moves, respectfully, to dismiss with prejudice Count One of the indictment as to them.






This may be at least the fifth time I'm telling you this, but I KNOW THAT LEGALLY THE CASE AGAINST THOSE OTHER DEFENDENTS WASN'T DROPPED.  I've been asking you to use a little common sense that to understand that if the case against the parent company was dropped, it should be obvious that the case against the other defendants acting on behalf of the parent falls apart.

Obviously Mueller can't just admit this like you (and I) think he should.

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I don't know what your motivation is here to lie like this, but it's crystal clear to me, a trained, experienced legal professional, that the case is still very much pending as to the individual defendants.



Alrighty then, here it is for at least the sixth time:  I KNOW THAT LEGALLY THE CASE AGAINST THOSE OTHER DEFENDENTS WASN'T DROPPED.  I've been asking you to use a little common sense that to understand that if the case against the parent company was dropped, it should be obvious that the case against the other defendants acting on behalf of the parent falls apart.

Maybe not legally, but logically.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26608586 - 04/17/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That is an opinion piece falcon. First it's by the nation which would be fine if they cited real intelligence orgs. Let me break down ur own link to you

Headlines warn that Russian trolls have tried to suppress the African-American vote, promote Green Party candidate Jill Stein, recruit “assets,” and “sow discord” or “hack the 2016 election” via sex-toy ads and Pokémon Go. 

Already misrepresenting reality and sounding more then a little bias but let's continue

They say the research they pointed out was "dubious figures" again an opinion

The researchers claim that “the scale of [the Russian] operation was unprecedented,” but they base that conclusion on dubious figures. They repeat the widespread claim that Russian posts “reached 126 million people on Facebook,” which is in fact a spin on Facebook’s own guess. “Our best estimate,” Facebook’s Colin Stretch testified to Congress in October 2017, “is that approximately 126 million people may have been served one of these [IRA] stories at some time during the two year period” between 2015 and 2017. According to Stretch, posts generated by suspected Russian accounts showing up in Facebook’s News Feed amounted to “approximately 1 out of 23,000 pieces of content.”

Facebook told them an approximate figure if they didn't know they wouldn't have any approximate figures especially when testifying or being part of an investigation Facebook can't lie or else they'd be taken down if anyone found out for no gain. Secondly the end there basically says there's tons of people on Facebook and it was ONLY 1 out of 23,000 pieces of content....... out of billions of pieces of content morons.

There is no proof anywhere in that link


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26608587 - 04/17/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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So, you actually believe that you know everything the government does about the investigation?



I certainly knew they would drop they would have to drop this case.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26608594 - 04/17/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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if the case against the parent company was dropped, it should be obvious that the case against the other defendants acting on behalf of the parent falls apart.




No, that is not obvious at all.  From my perspective, it is obvious why prosecuting a legal entity for a crime is not as desirable as prosecuting actual human beings.  Entities can, at best, be fined.  Foreign entities, when fined, can often not be collected from.  In other words, it's spending millions to prosecute with no actual punishment ever happening.

So, you're going to have to explain to me why a dismissal of the company exonerates the owner and employees of that company.  I'm dying to hear this explanation, since it's so obvious to you.

While you're at it, explain how a dismissal against Concord has anything whatsoever to do with the 12 Russian agents who are defendants in the other case about election interference.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26608596 - 04/17/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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That is an opinion piece falcon. First it's by the nation which would be fine if they cited real intelligence orgs. Let me break down ur own link to you

Headlines warn that Russian trolls have tried to suppress the African-American vote, promote Green Party candidate Jill Stein, recruit “assets,” and “sow discord” or “hack the 2016 election” via sex-toy ads and Pokémon Go. 

Already misrepresenting reality and sounding more then a little bias but let's continue



HOORAY!  YOU FINALLY GET IT!!!  They were quoting the Washington Post and New York Times, which ARE a little biased.

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They say the research they pointed out was "dubious figures" again an opinion



What would a better adjective have been?

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The researchers claim that “the scale of [the Russian] operation was unprecedented,” but they base that conclusion on dubious figures. They repeat the widespread claim that Russian posts “reached 126 million people on Facebook,” which is in fact a spin on Facebook’s own guess. “Our best estimate,” Facebook’s Colin Stretch testified to Congress in October 2017, “is that approximately 126 million people may have been served one of these [IRA] stories at some time during the two year period” between 2015 and 2017. According to Stretch, posts generated by suspected Russian accounts showing up in Facebook’s News Feed amounted to “approximately 1 out of 23,000 pieces of content.”

Facebook told them an approximate figure if they didn't know they wouldn't have any approximate figures especially when testifying or being part of an investigation Facebook can't lie or else they'd be taken down if anyone found out for no gain. Secondly the end there basically says there's tons of people on Facebook and it was ONLY 1 out of 23,000 pieces of content....... out of billions of pieces of content morons.

There is no proof anywhere in that link



I don't get it.  Are you saying the estimate of the numbers from Facebook was right or wrong?


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Enlil]
    #26608627 - 04/17/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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No, that is not obvious at all.  From my perspective, it is obvious why prosecuting a legal entity for a crime is not as desirable as prosecuting actual human beings.  Entities can, at best, be fined.  Foreign entities, when fined, can often not be collected from.  In other words, it's spending millions to prosecute with no actual punishment ever happening.



You see absolutely no value in proving election interference?!?  Are you fucking joking?  :flowstone:

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So, you're going to have to explain to me why a dismissal of the company exonerates the owner and employees of that company.  I'm dying to hear this explanation, since it's so obvious to you.



If the company in charge is exonerated, you don't understand how the people who act on behalf of that company aren't?

Again, use just a little logic and common sense.  I don't care if the case is still legally open and if Mueller put in a few lines to confuse people like you.

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While you're at it, explain how a dismissal against Concord has anything whatsoever to do with the 12 Russian agents who are defendants in the other case about election interference.



It has nothing to do with the other case; you're the only one who keeps saying it does.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26608634 - 04/17/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You see absolutely no value in proving election interference?!?  Are you fucking joking?  :flowstone:


Strawman fallacy:  I never said that.
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If the company in charge is exonerated, you don't understand how the people who act on behalf of that company aren't?

Again, use just a little logic and common sense.  I don't care if the case is still legally open and if Mueller put in a few lines to confuse people like you.



No.  Please explain it.  Obviously, my logic and common sense are lacking.  I need you to explain to me how the decision to not pursue charges against a company exonerates the owner and employees of that company.

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It has nothing to do with the other case; you're the only one who keeps saying it does.



So, you admit that there is an open felony prosecution against 12 Russian agents for crimes related to election interference and that those 12 Russian agents have not been exonerated?  That's some progress, I suppose.


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Re: dumpy wants to adjourn congress to appoint his cronies [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26608640 - 04/17/20 05:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Bullshit they quoted sex toys and pokemon go from any major news outlet.


That's just the thing using the adjective dubious shouldn't be your end all proof you can hang your hat on it's an opinion from a clearly pro Russian or far right opinionist. You event presented any proof and demand it from others.

I'm saying that Facebook confirmed it happened on a large scale, looked at the numbers saying Our best estimate,” Facebook’s Colin Stretch testified to Congress in October 2017, “is that approximately 126 million people may have been served one of these [IRA] stories at some time during the two year period” between 2015 and 2017.

They know their numbers while terifying and that's a fucking massive amount of Russian troll posts to interfere with the election.

Enlil is right that it makes a lot more sense to charge the individuals because being a compny already just in America they'd get fined but when you charge the individuals justice can be more attainable. Still if we locked em up it would've kicked Trump out of office and possibly started a war with Russia which Trump fought tooth and nail to get out of. He even had Roger Stone do the dirty work and pardoned his happy ass almost immediately.


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