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Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs
    #26602745 - 04/15/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Shoeboxes seem easy enough to do and space saving.  What are some of the pitfalls to watch out for if using them instead of monotubs for bulk grows?


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: ShamanBag]
    #26602754 - 04/15/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The height of the mushrooms.  They can get tall and then you have to dubtub or use a bag.
Or just harvest them when they start pushing lid up.


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26602767 - 04/15/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I don’t have many problems with too tall shrooms unless I make the sub real deep, but grocery bags are perfect with shoeboxes.

Fit perfectly both for liners or on top too keep humidity up for big mushrooms.


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: A.k.a]
    #26602777 - 04/15/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What ratio spawn to coir do  you use in your boxes and what is a typical yield for you out of one?


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: A.k.a]
    #26602793 - 04/15/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I had couple aa+ hit top of dubtub from inch thick sub. It was cool.
I never tried the bags yet.
I think I'm do shoeboxes and sweater boxes  exclusively for little bit.

One qt spawn and three or four big handfuls of coir is how I measure it. Haha.
Harvest varies too much. One qt spawn should get u up to a OZ +/- . Variety,  environmental, person cultivating,  it all depends on alot of stuff to get the weight you want in a harvest.


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: ShamanBag]
    #26602794 - 04/15/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I do one quart of spawn to probably 2 or 2.5 coir. I’m not sure I just fill it up to where it needs to be without measuring.

Yield depends on the culture/clone. Usually the first flush is 200 wet minimum, all the way up to 500 sometimes with PE clones I have.

Also depends if you’re gonna let it run 3+ flushes too.


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: A.k.a]
    #26602858 - 04/15/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think something you need to watch for is moisture, because the shoeboxes are smaller, they dry out faster than a mono


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: woofwoof]
    #26602873 - 04/15/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Shoeboxes stacked, staggered within a mono for environment is what I'm experimenting with now. Works quite well, 4 shoeboxes within a mono takes up the same footprint as the mono itself, however the 4 shoeboxes within have more surface area than the surface area of substrate in the mono would be.


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: Smartattack]
    #26602955 - 04/15/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Are you adding anything to the bottom of the mono to keep the moisture up? Or just kinda restricting the airflow with that mono around?


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: poisoned]
    #26603016 - 04/15/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just putting the lid on. Humidity is the same in there as just a normal mono.:shrug:


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: Smartattack]
    #26603066 - 04/15/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Underbed tubs are good too.

Massive surface area but same height as shoeboxes.



I think it’s equivalent to just under 5 shoeboxes.


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: A.k.a]
    #26603088 - 04/15/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Beautiful ideas here.  Thanks!


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26603429 - 04/15/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have 2 of those A.k.a, but I'm afraid to upgrade from shoeboxes. I like my spawn separate.


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: poisoned]
    #26603446 - 04/15/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I have 2 of those A.k.a, but I'm afraid to upgrade from shoeboxes. I like my spawn separate.




That's the big benefit for me.  I've lost too many tubs so keeping it 1 jar to one box until I get my spawn down seems to be the best option right now.


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: A.k.a]
    #26603483 - 04/15/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Underbed tubs are good too.

Massive surface area but same height as shoeboxes.



I think it’s equivalent to just under 5 shoeboxes.




Just started my 2nd and 3rd unmodded mono tubs.
Thought mono tubs would be a good idea for yields
(coming from a growing weed pov, i.e. bigger pot bigger plant)
but they are quite tall.
I was looking to switch to the underbed tubs last night thinking I
could place a 6500k over 2 underbeds, then with spacers(terracotta pots)
stack another 2 on top with another 6500k above them, replacing
2 60qts with 4 37qts. Assuming doubling the surface area.
Only concern is the 7in height?

*Edit* Just measured my monos and they're each 2 inches smaller
than the underbeds listed online, so 4 would replace the 2 and be
slightly wider and taller.


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: LREAM]
    #26603494 - 04/15/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If you have to dub tub shoeboxes why not use a mono? :shrug:


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: LREAM]
    #26603498 - 04/15/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What are your guys' experiences with smaller fruits when using shoeboxes?
I personally never really got all around large fruits from shoeboxes even when
using a clone that makes large fruits in monos. Maybe 1 decent sized fruit in a sea of stubby bastards.


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Re: Shoeboxes for bulk instead of monotubs [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26603503 - 04/15/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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