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Do you believe in God? * 1
    #26603100 - 04/15/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just curious
Do you believe in God?
You may choose only one


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Kernel Flanders] * 2
    #26603114 - 04/15/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Which one?


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Gene Hackman]
    #26603122 - 04/15/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don’t.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26603128 - 04/15/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It only makes sense if I believe in our dark lord


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: blackhawk]
    #26603186 - 04/15/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't believe in any particular god. But I don't fully believe there ISN'T any god, anymore though. My idea of god wouldn't be any humanoid entity with a specific sex or anything like that.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: blackhawk]
    #26603188 - 04/15/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Who said it had to make sense? Humans strive for completion and will craft stories to fill in the gaps.

Even if things don’t make sense I see no reason to believe in god.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26603190 - 04/15/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder if science will ever get advanced enough to actually be able to prove or disprove the existence of god, or gods.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Eminence]
    #26603205 - 04/15/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Science and religion are not opposed to each other.

Science is pretty weak, hell people worship it just like a religion.  Asimov made note of this is one of his brilliant stories:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Science


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26603227 - 04/15/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Science and religion are not opposed to each other.

Science is pretty weak, hell people worship it just like a religion.  Asimov made note of this is one of his brilliant stories:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Science



Common misinterpretation of what science is. Also that book is science fiction and did you even read the link? It functions more like Christianity than science.

Why would you assume a God/gods exist?


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #26603230 - 04/15/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Science cannot be used prove whether or not something exists if the thing it's trying to verify isn't defined. If someone were to say that God were everything, or that God was the Universe, that would be pretty easy to prove on a purely semantic level. Likewise, if defining it as some power outside of this plane that's unobservable, that leaves a lot to conjecture, often purposefully.

Whether something is verifiable or not really boils down to context. Nearly every single conversation about religious belief should begin with defining what it is you believe in, instead it's usually some undefined force that we have personified rather than a defined set of circumstances that may or may not exist.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #26603242 - 04/15/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

To me saying god is everything is the same as saying the universe is everything, it’s a blithe statement that goes nowhere and advances nothing. I can pretty much replace God in the instance with any made up word for the same effect.

Though if you define it as a power outside this “plane” one would wonder how you know that to be the case. From what I gather God seems to be the escape hatch for what we can’t explain. I find it telling that humans seem to be the only ones concerned about this question and that it speaks more to our mental state as a species than it does about reality itself


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26603246 - 04/15/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Science and religion are not opposed to each other.

Science is pretty weak, hell people worship it just like a religion.  Asimov made note of this is one of his brilliant stories:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Science



Common misinterpretation of what science is. Also that book is science fiction and did you even read the link? It functions more like Christianity than science.

Why would you assume a God/gods exist?




Science is pretty basic.  Hypothesis -> experiment -> results

And because people are bullshitters, they add the repeatable clause.

And yes, not only did I read the link, but I read his entire series.  You haven't read Isaac Asimov?  lol


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #26603249 - 04/15/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah you're right. But considering I wouldn't know what the hell to be looking for as proof in the first place, my hypothetical scenario would also include science being advanced enough to be able to determine what god really is first anyway. How? No idea. It's a fun topic to think about, but it never goes anywhere obviously.

Really the only thing I could consider a god that is tangible and observable would be nature itself. I feel like some pagans had it closer than anyone honestly. But that's really the easiest idea to think of, but it still makes more sense to me than something like a man being a messenger for god.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26603251 - 04/15/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I said no because I don't truly believe in a god. Possibly some powerful force that sparked it all, but not an actual human like figure that has opinions/morals like religions believe.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26603255 - 04/15/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

zZZz gonna be PISSED when he sees all y'all saying no



And zZZz shall fall from the heavens to rain his wrath of destruction on that ass

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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26603258 - 04/15/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Science and religion are not opposed to each other.

Science is pretty weak, hell people worship it just like a religion.  Asimov made note of this is one of his brilliant stories:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Science



Common misinterpretation of what science is. Also that book is science fiction and did you even read the link? It functions more like Christianity than science.

Why would you assume a God/gods exist?




Science is pretty basic.  Hypothesis -> experiment -> results

And because people are bullshitters, they add the repeatable clause.

And yes, not only did I read the link, but I read his entire series.  You haven't read Isaac Asimov?  lol




Had to check because the link didn’t back up your point about science.

The repeatable aspect is to make sure it wasn’t a fluke that happened. It’s not bullshit. It’s the reason I can use a pen without fear of it exploding on me.

Is it perfect? No, but they never said it was. It is however far better than anything else I’ve come across in my life, and I’ve quite literally been all over.

Once again, you misunderstand science.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26603262 - 04/15/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Science is, in some sense being comfortable with saying “I don’t know”. People who use God seem to be uncomfortable with that


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26603267 - 04/15/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Invalid poll. No STAL :notsureif:


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26603271 - 04/15/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

STAL?


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26603274 - 04/15/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Had to check because the link didn’t back up your point about science.

The repeatable aspect is to make sure it wasn’t a fluke that happened. It’s not bullshit. It’s the reason I can use a pen without fear of it exploding on me.

Is it perfect? No, but they never said it was. It is however far better than anything else I’ve come across in my life, and I’ve quite literally been all over.

Once again, you misunderstand science.




Slow down, hero.  I wasn't saying that "repeatable" was bullshit.  I said that it was necessary because people like to bullshit.  I am not arguing against repeatability, just specifying why it was included.

In your mind you believe I am against science somehow.  But I am not.  Science is great and excellent for what it is.  I have taken many courses in it in various disciplines.  In the end it is only ever a model.  The best model humanity has, but still a model of reality conceived by limited human brains.

And a great author expounded on the religious worship of science much more eloquently than I can.

I have not literally been all over, or even around all that much.  However, most intelligent scientists and theologians I have met get along quite well and enjoy their dialog.  The made up "argument" exists only in the minds of the ignorant.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Eminence]
    #26603281 - 04/15/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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To me saying god is everything is the same as saying the universe is everything, it’s a blithe statement that goes nowhere and advances nothing. I can pretty much replace God in the instance with any made up word for the same effect.

Though if you define it as a power outside this “plane” one would wonder how you know that to be the case. From what I gather God seems to be the escape hatch for what we can’t explain. I find it telling that humans seem to be the only ones concerned about this question and that it speaks more to our mental state as a species than it does about reality itself



That's more or less my point though, that you can replace God in the instance with any word for the same effect. The Universe or Everything just happens to resemble most closely the marks that a monotheistic God is often attributed - "omniscient (all-knowing), omnipotent (all-powerful), omnipresent (all-present) and as having an eternal and necessary existence".

You would know it to be the case that it is outside of this "plane" because you have defined it as such. Knowing what it is versus knowing whether it exists are two different problems. You can know what something is for a certainty as long as you are willing to define it.

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Yeah you're right. But considering I wouldn't know what the hell to be looking for as proof in the first place, my hypothetical scenario would also include science being advanced enough to be able to determine what god really is first anyway. How? No idea. It's a fun topic to think about, but it never goes anywhere obviously.



Science wouldn't be what determines what god really is at any point, that's a problem for semantic philosophy at the root of it. Once decided you might be able to use science to prove it, or it may be unprovable because you've described it as something which cannot be observed.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #26603291 - 04/15/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Welp, I'm outta things to say here then. I guess we all just wait til we die then to see, and that's about it :shrug:


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #26603296 - 04/15/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I get that it’s only a model because our senses are limited and that some things may just be forever beyond our reach.

You link still doesn’t support your point of science as a religion since the portrayal of it in the book isn’t how it is in reality.

But I can say it’s the best out of all the ones I have heard and the least conceited. Problem is the real religious types tend to have the power to force their views on others and to question them is death or exile.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Eminence]
    #26603297 - 04/15/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Welp, I'm outta things to say here then. I guess we all just wait til we die then to see, and that's about it :shrug:




Actually when you die you won’t see. No life after death after all.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26603314 - 04/15/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I get it dude, you're atheist. I am not.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Eminence]
    #26603322 - 04/15/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

More like there isn’t evidence to suggest life after death and that it’s more like a fear of oblivion.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26603330 - 04/15/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not afraid of there not being an afterlife, I'm just not fully convinced there isn't something after. I came to have this mindset after years of being atheist already.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26603333 - 04/15/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Saying you don't believe in an afterlife is one thing, but asserting that you know it is not the case is the same pitfall that someone who asserts it exists falls into and in a roundabout way is contradictory to your statements about being comfortable with not knowing.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #26603372 - 04/15/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I guess you have a point. It’s just that I think it’s far more likely that we made it up to feel ok about dying.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Kernel Flanders] * 1
    #26603382 - 04/15/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I do believe there is some "thing" that created this "thing"/existence I find myself in . I do not attach any name to that "thing" though. And I absolutely do not believe that "thing" is "pulling the strings" and controlling this existence or influencing it in anyway, but I do believe some thing set this existence into motion/created it and I do feel there is some sort of ultimate "goal" or reason for this existence/creation.


This is coming from someone who never even believed in Santa Clause as a kid, even around 3 & 4 years old I remember Santa didn't make any logical sense to me for so many different reasons...And back around then I also had too many questions that the church couldn't answer. I never once believed in "god" when I was a kid, none of that "story" made any sense to me at all.

I've never been religious myself (my mothers side of the fam is religious tho, went to church a handful of times when I was younger)...I've always been a super super duper skeptical person and even labeled myself as "atheist" through out most of my younger years. I was always all about "science" and logic.

But over the years, now 33, getting a bit older....Now, from my own observations, from my own experiences in life and with psychedelics, from my own ponderings/reflections/deep thoughts about it all, now I really do feel & believe that there is FAR more to this existence we find ourselves in than "it came from nothing and it is completely random & meaningless" .

...I really do feel & believe that some "thing" created this, what ever "this" is that we find ourselves in. And I feel there is some reason for it all.





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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Kernel Flanders] * 1
    #26603384 - 04/15/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Do you believe in life after love?


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26603444 - 04/15/20 04:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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More like there isn’t evidence to suggest life after death and that it’s more like a fear of oblivion.



It is literally 50/50. The only options to the question is yes/no lol


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Kernel Flanders]
    #26603455 - 04/15/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I do not.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Kernel Flanders]
    #26603474 - 04/15/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No, I do not believe in god. I have a hardcore belief in science and physics and stuff like that. Interestingly enough, it was lysergamides that converted me to atheism and a strong belief in science, etc.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: openmind]
    #26603513 - 04/15/20 05:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Such a thing would be a sadist then most likely.

Also no one said the universe came from nothing. Evidence seems to suggest it always was.

As for everything else...well I would consider reevaluating your views.


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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Kernel Flanders]
    #26603536 - 04/15/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Just curious




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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #26603550 - 04/15/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I talk with an imaginary friend that presents itself as God since my childhood.

Last august he invited me to my bed and as I lay there in the darkness he began telling me that he had settled that he would strike Humanity with a pandemic. I was shocked, he argued some aspects to it and recommended me to prep a few goods.

In January when COVID showed up, he was like "OK, drop all your plans for this year and commit to this, this will become the exact horrendous pandemic that we discussed months ago. Stock up your shelves, get a tall freezer and fill it, dont worry about years-long shelf life because the disaster will be now, this year, within the expiration date of supermarket goods. Noah, take provisions into your Ark because it started raining. Put your money where your faith is and prepare, and tell your friends in ways they can understand at this time."

Yeah, and now it "rains" all over the world.

Not believing in God is beside the point for me. Hes proven himself more than enough.

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Its so much different when God and you are a two way street, when you are answered and you are called just like the scriptures promise is the kind of relatuonshipo God wants with his children.

And with so many supernatural things happening underlining that he gives direction to my life and those of others, the existence of God becomes as much a nonissue as the existence of your cat.

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Re: Do you believe in God? [Re: Asante]
    #26603559 - 04/15/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I talk with an imaginary friend that presents itself as God since my childhood.

Last august he invited me to my bed and as I lay there in the darkness he began telling me that he had settled that he would strike Humanity with a pandemic. I was shocked, he argued some aspects to it and recommended me to prep a few goods.

In January when COVID showed up, he was like "OK, drop all your plans for this year and commit to this, this will become the exact horrendous pandemic that we discussed months ago. Stock up your shelves, get a tall freezer and fill it, dont worry about years-long shelf life because the disaster will be now, this year, within the expiration date of supermarket goods. Noah, take provisions into your Ark because it started raining. Put your money where your faith is and prepare, and tell your friends in ways they can understand at this time."

Yeah, and now it "rains" all over the world.

Not believing in God is beside the point for me. Hes proven himself more than enough.

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The White Man goes into his church house and talks about Jesus, but the Indian goes into his tipi and talks to Jesus.

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Its so much different when God and you are a two way street, when you are answered and you are called just like the scriptures promise is the kind of relatuonshipo God wants with his children.

And with so many supernatural things happening underlining that he gives direction to my life and those of others, the existence of God becomes as much a nonissue as the existence of your cat.

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Sounds more like confirmation bias than proof. You had a “dream” that just happened to be right, doesn’t really prove anything. I know plenty of people that had such dreams and were wrong.


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    #26603568 - 04/15/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Kinda weird for a member of a cannibalistic indian tribe (Comanche) that were enemies with pretty much everyone around them, to compete with the "white man" over who's the more authentic Christian, when it was the "white man" that brought Christianity here isn't it? :lol:


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    #26603583 - 04/15/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Speaking of that..I had no idea what I had in mind, but I had this strong gut feeling sometime in mid 2019 that something big was going to happen in early 2020 but I had no idea what. I have nothing else to really say about it, just really strange that it happened after I spent months just waiting for something to happen.


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    #26603594 - 04/15/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Who said it had to make sense? Humans strive for completion and will craft stories to fill in the gaps.

Even if things don’t make sense I see no reason to believe in god.



You're right. There's no reason my beautiful and powerful horned god can't reign unopposed


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    #26603595 - 04/15/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You had a “dream” that just happened to be right, doesn’t really prove anything.




I wasn't asleep.

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Last august he invited me to my bed and as I lay there in the darkness he began telling me that he had settled that he would strike Humanity with a pandemic. I was shocked, he argued some aspects to it and recommended me to prep a few good




I'm not out to prove anything to anyone of you. I could tell 100 things and there'd be 100 perfectly acceptable explanations, but all 100 of them did happen correctly in sequence.

Chance adds up. Thats a whole lot of chance.

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    #26603626 - 04/15/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No.
Belief is a waste of energy and at times is even counterproductive

Do, however, periodically act in ritual observance of deity figures
my belief does not need to be present to pay honour to energies and forces that operate on scales too large or minute to be appropriately named at this level
and my lack of expectations free any such forces to function outside of observable properties

at the much more relevant human scale tho
recognize the psychological relief that ritual action provides
to be tantamount to having an assurance of divine intervention


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    #26603732 - 04/15/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You had a “dream” that just happened to be right, doesn’t really prove anything.




I wasn't asleep.

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Last august he invited me to my bed and as I lay there in the darkness he began telling me that he had settled that he would strike Humanity with a pandemic. I was shocked, he argued some aspects to it and recommended me to prep a few good




I'm not out to prove anything to anyone of you. I could tell 100 things and there'd be 100 perfectly acceptable explanations, but all 100 of them did happen correctly in sequence.

Chance adds up. Thats a whole lot of chance.

I'm stating my faith.




Still sounds like coincidence. Unless you have repeated examples that show this to be reliable it’s just one of those things. And in a sense you are out to prove something if you commented on this thread and gave a specific example. Were you not you likely would have just abstained from this.

I mean I think I have dreams of the future down to the greatest detail but that doesn’t mean anything if I can’t demonstrate it beyond my deja vu.


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    #26603972 - 04/15/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I like to think that I come off as a pretty level headed dude here, but I have had multiple "premonition dreams", but they were usually about the most mundane things, and of course I never thought anything of them until I saw them come to reality in front of me. Nothing but just another dream until then. But I don't tell people that in person. It's not something I could ever prove, unfortunately. I'm 100% with Nikola Tesla when he said science would make extreme advances by putting in much more effort into studying paranormal and para-psychological phenomena though. He was really interested in the significance of dreams.


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    #26604013 - 04/15/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Tesla was kind of a crackpot on somethings. The paranormal likely can’t be investigated.

I mean I can’t prove I have future sight, it’s only in dreams and there’s no way to tell which will or won’t happen. It’s a fairly useless ability really, since it’s akin to fast forwarding a movie.


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    #26604095 - 04/15/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well most people would call someone a crackpot for saying what I said. But yeah, that's what's so annoying about it. Only way I could possibly prove it would be to record every dream and have someone wearing a bodycam at all times to make sure I only wrote them as soon as I woke up, and have a bodycam on myself for the rest of my life. If you told me it's happened to you before, I wouldn't assume you were lying though.


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    #26604259 - 04/15/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

But I am afraid that future sight might somehow prove solipsism


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    #26604498 - 04/16/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That’s the scary part


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    #26604580 - 04/16/20 01:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I do. My currery theory is God is a super-advanced hyper-intelligent being made of Pure Energy.


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    #26605293 - 04/16/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You ever hear of the term too smart for your own good? Try to just enjoy the now. Be here now! Knowledge is infinite, and good to possess, but....:grin::heart:

https://iheartintelligence.com/being-highly-intelligent/


The quote might seem a bit cryptic, but those who are highly intelligent understand exactly what the author means.
Intelligence, it seems, does have its downsides, and they are rather surprising.

Over 100 responses to a Quora inquiry last year culminated in 6 consistent problems of people with extremely high intelligence; six ways, that is, where highly intelligent people are actually too smart for their own good.

1) You know how much you don’t know.
Highly intelligent people have an appreciation of their own understanding -and lack thereof- that their less-intelligent counterparts do not. They know that they will never know everything, about everything, and they know this simply because they exercise their capacity for understanding. People who don’t tend to be happier with what they do know. It’s another way of saying “ignorance is bliss”: if you can’t reason what you don’t know it’s not going to bother you that you don’t know it.



Highly intelligent people can understand that they don’t, and never will, know everything about everything or really, everything about anything. This can be immensely frustrating to those who fall prey to it. A widely-cited study by Justin Kruger and David Dunning extracts the truth behind this phenomenon.

2) Highly intelligent people tend to overthink.
The problem with overthinking is tied closely to the problem of knowing you’ll never know everything. Overthinking is a product of rumination and worrying, and a dominant characteristic of highly intelligent people. Being overly thoughtful, analytical and concerned with certain subject matter leads to overthinking, which is frustrating and anxiety-inducing.



This study conducted in 2015 found an explicit link between overthinking and verbal intelligence.

3) Highly intelligent people tend to correct others in casual conversation.
Often in conversation that isn’t meant to be analyzed for accuracy, highly intelligent people find themselves at a bit of a socially awkward situation. People don’t like to be corrected in general, and highly intelligent people come across as fussy or even offensive in trying to clarify statements during casual conversation. This site highlights some of the ways this happens in social situations.

4) They don’t necessarily develop perseverance.


People who are extremely intelligent often don’t have to work as hard as others do in order to accomplish the same goals. While this might seem like yet another bonus for being super-smart, it leads to the development of a poor work ethic. This means that when challenges do arise for the intellectually gifted, they don’t know how to really throw a concentrated effort at successfully overcoming them.

A 2004 study showed the correlation between conscientiousness -in other words, how hard you’re willing to work- and intelligence is in fact a negative one.

5) Performance pressure and panic.


Similarly to #4, high intelligence marks you as  top performer, so  others anticipate that you will always be achieving at a high level. This creates a kind of double-edged sword for the highly intelligent: you feel that you must always perform at the highest possible level, which creates an intense amount of stress, and when you don’t, you feel that you let others down who anticipate your constant success and achievement. Additionally, you feel panicked about not always performing at the highest level, which creates even more stress. Psychology Today discusses this as the “burden of potential” in this excerpt.

6) Talking about instead of actually expressing your feelings.
Highly intelligent people are often extremely good at honing in on and articulating how they are feeling…to their detriment. Instead of actually expressing how they feel, highly intelligent people are more likely to describe it in words. As one respondent to the Quora inquiry -which was, in fact, “When does intelligence become a curse?”- stated, “Less articulate people tend to vent through physicality. They yell, punch, kick, run, scream, sob, dance, jump for joy… I explain. And when I’m done explaining, everything I’ve explained is still stuck inside me, only now it has a label on it.”

Some research indicates that this is actually true, at least in the workplace. The studies show that an increased level of emotional intelligence makes up for a decreased level of cognitive function.It appears that people who are incredibly intelligent don’t have to rely on emotional skills as much, at least not at work.


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