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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
#26602997 - 04/15/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd recommend to always roll in verm or coir for best results. I rolled my cakes in coir after hey were in the chamber for a few days so it's not too late to roll them
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#26603087 - 04/15/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Found verm sold near me. picking it up in a bit.
Going to roll them and report lol
Also have one cake reqdy to birth, i see a lot of small dots possible pins forming. Some of them are dark tho. Abortions?
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
#26605643 - 04/16/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hard to tell trough the jar. Looking forward to see them in the FC  I just picked up 35 new 1/2 pint jars so now I have 60
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#26609684 - 04/18/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bump..
Here comes second flush on its way, myc already has a nice grip on the coir just 24h after being placed inside.

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] 1
#26609752 - 04/18/20 07:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nothing cooler than seeing those mush in a tub surrounded by vegetation
It would be awesome to find a consistent green to grow with them
Ive always been scared to try
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] 1
#26610212 - 04/18/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Have you tried an air pump into the water? Could be a cool experiment, like back to the old days.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Sockadin]
#26610226 - 04/18/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Aeroponic plants with shrooms?
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26610265 - 04/18/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Okay, I a studying this thread for a few weeks in the future when I am ready to birth a second batch of just inoculated, 1/2 pint BRF jars. Mateah, I noticed that you rolled the cakes in Coir, instead of verm. Well, perhaps "rolled" is the wrong word, since it looks like you only got the powdered (is it powdered, fine, or course?) on the tops of the cakes. Is that intentional, and what's the purpose of leaving what appears to be the rest of the cake all white, with the colonized mycelium exposed?
Thanks! 
Edit: Okay, I just noticed that in some of your posts, the whole cakes are covered, in others it looks like just the tops, and still others, it looks like just the sides of the cakes are covered.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26611946 - 04/19/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's now been just under 48h after second roll in coir and the PF Trek cakes are already producing the Next Generation of pins at Warp Speed
 
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] 1
#26611969 - 04/19/20 02:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mateah said: It's now been just under 48h after second roll in coir and the PF Trek cakes are already producing the Next Generation of pins at Warp Speed

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26612101 - 04/19/20 05:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just changed out my FC tek, been using perlite for ages.
Fuck perlite 😅
Went with Leca and water, added an air pump with air stone, and a aquarium heater.
Then placed a tray with a tiny center hole above the air stone, and placed the cake on it.
Misting isn't really needed, but fanning is.
Thus far it seems to be working great, maybe the future has other plans in store tho, we'll see 🙈
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#26623908 - 04/24/20 04:17 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey Mateah, as always LOVE your posts. Great pics in this thread. I am still at least 2-4 weeks away from the 5 jars I inoculated about 2 weeks ago being ready, but I want to get a jump on this. so I am going to head to Home Depot or order what I need off Amazon today. I have read both this thread and your other awesome HC thread. I think I am finally getting a handle on he things you're posting about all this and I am itching to try your Tek.
Two questions to start:
1. Between the two, Water Tub HC and regular HC, what are the advantages and disadvantages of each? I won't lie, there is something insanely cool about lining the bottom of a small tub like a 32 Quart Sterilite with water, and then using a cookie rack to hold my cakes. That is...honestly, fucking genius. If you put a gun to my head, I would have to admit that this water tub Tek of yours really resonates with me for some reason. Maybe because it looks so damned easy.
2. For rolling the cakes, should I stick with Coir you recommended in these two threads, or is Verm just as good, better, or inferior?
That's all for now, but I am REALLY looking forward to trying this out. Ha! You may have a new convert here, my friend.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26624202 - 04/24/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Currently I'm just using what's at my disposal and since I don't have vermiculite I'm using coir, so far it seems to be just as effective. But for new growers I'd recommend sticking with the time proven mothods altho I don't see why you shouldn't be able to get the same results as me using coir. But I'm noticing that vermiculite sticks better to the cake during the rolling process so it's easier to use for this process so Id just use that for my cakes!
I guess when it comes to the core functions of the HC there isn't much difference between the coir HC and water HC but like I've said before the coir tubs are easker to move around lol they don't splash around
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26624253 - 04/24/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay, thanks. I asked because I have some verm left. At least enough to dunk and roll these five cakes when they are ready sometime in May. So if you say verm and coir are about the same equivalent, at least for this Water HC Tek of yours, then I'll stick with the verm since I have it already. I may even have enough to get through a few flushes.
I'll pick up the 30 Quart Sterilite box today or tomorrow, and in a few weeks, will post some pics when I birth the cakes into the water chamber.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26624414 - 04/24/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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So this is the second flush from these two 22L and 32L tubs, picked these fruits 2 days ago
 
And the remaining cakes are finishing up today
 
I can hardly tell the difference between first and second flush, cakes seem to flush evenly between the two flushes with slightly bigger fruits in flush two. Can't even tell the difference between the substrates in flush one and flush two.
Flush one pins and fruits
  
  
Flush two pins and fruits
  
  
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#26624429 - 04/24/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Beautiful!
Mateah, what species/strain are they? I don't think I have ever seen cubes that color. Then again, its not like I have been exposed to a ton of different mushrooms lol.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LSA Woodrose] 2
#26624508 - 04/24/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is Leucistic Golden Teacher (LGT) and this is a random clone that I took from a pinning petri dish. And the best part is that I found the petri dish inside an old SAB in a garage at this place that I used to live and the culture had been laying in the garage for 1.5 years. I didn't expect much from that culture I took one transfer and immediately the donor plate pinned as soon as it got colonized and I took the very first pin that popped up. Already after I took that initial transfer from that 1.5yo plate I noticed that this culture was the most vigorous one from the two other cultures I had going at the time that were germinated just weeks ago. Now this one LGT clone is the only culture I'm working with at the moment both for the grain Shoeboxes and for BRF cakes. Gotta love this organism
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#26624714 - 04/24/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Really nice, and as always, thanks for the information, Mateah. Very much appreciated, my friend!
So, long story short, I took a trip to the Home Depot in my neighborhood, waited on line outside in the rain lol, and grabbed a 30 Quart Sterilite box. Turns out it was the same exact size and dimensions I also bought a few weeks ago when I made my second SGFC for the remaining 8 cakes that wouldn't fit into my 70 Quart SGFC. It seemed like the best size for 5 cakes I could find that would fit some metal racks to put over the water.
Anyway, I am really stoked to birth these cakes now so I can be basically your guinea pig. Before deciding to try your Tek, I was like, "Yeah lol whatever...whenever my cakes are ready, no biggie." Now you actually have me exited and impatient. lol I really want to see how your tek works out. Also, I just saw you posted a video on the previous page, which obviously I will need to watch several times. Also! Fun fact, I just checked what was left of my Verm, and it looks like I have just enough, with a little extra, to dunk and roll my 5 cakes when the time comes. Soooooo...I won't need more verm until September, when I am going to do another full grow, beginning to end!
So...lid upside-down when the time comes, and a question: will it adversely effect my yield with your Tek because the only mycelium I had to inoculate my jars this time around were the MS syringes that I bought from Spo*******.com?
Not complaining, and I don't want to screw up your data if my yields end up being crap through no fault of your Tek.   
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26625513 - 04/24/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cakes dunked and rolled ready for flush 3, but they still look like newly birthed lol

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LSA Woodrose said: Will it adversely affect my yield with your Tek because of MS syringes. Not complaining, and I don't want to screw up your data if my yields end up being crap through no fault of your Tek.    
Nah I don't think so, considering your last cake grow with the SGFC your cakes fruited similar to these cakes of mine, at least the first flush you pulled so I'm counting on you having similar or better results next round, you'll get better and better at cakes regardless of FC looking forward to see you grow some mo.
Jesus, the mushroom factory over here is running on all cylinders I need to switch my daily routines more to European time lol I don't have the energy to stay up late any more hehe. So see you tomorrow I guess
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#26625544 - 04/24/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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thanks Mateah!
Two questions I forgot to ask before, that are actually important. The first is why are you dunking and rolling between flushes? My understanding was that you only dunk after the first flush? Or is that just PF Tek? Second question, I just asked this in another thread that I created, How are you dealing with those full pint cakes, in terms of inoculation, colonizing, and birthing?
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