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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27143509 - 01/12/21 10:22 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Sankhara said: It funny how this kinds of contraptions have been disregarded MANY times in the past but now they prove everybody else wrong. Its simple physics. Will be trying this in the following weeks with some galindoi if everything goes well. Any advice?
The most important advice I have for all growers attempting to fruit in one of these is: "try to resist the urge to use the spray bottle unless it's absolutely necessary". Even if your grow area is a desert like mine is (constantly around 10% RH) and even if you increase FAE quite a bit you still shouldn't have to mist more than once a day) look forward to seeing some Galindoi in a Water Tub gl
this at first with cakes i had literally soaked them and I still kept misting. Bad. It didn't help that the mycelium was bacterial too but that's too be expected from spore syringe direct inoc. Thing is, when you first start you cant tell how much water should be applied, you really need to get a feel for this. True, the op is clear and surface moisture guidelines are clear too but for a newbie grower who has never seen all those conditions before it can be overwhelming and you constantly wonder "maybe it's too dry now?" But it's not, your vermiculite is a good reserve of water and as long as conditions in this tek are met you are set, the evaporation isn't huge in this kind of setup and cubes dont seem to care either lol. All in all this is a very good tek, my cakes are now 3~ months old and are still producing 1 or 2 sickly fruits here and there, no contamination either but I think they finally reached the end of their life (Or the end of their food reserve.
I'll post some pics later of how they look today inside the chamber. Thanks some dude
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: PurpleRain]
#27143527 - 01/12/21 10:27 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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PurpleRain said: Having read through the whole thread I think I need to stop misting for a few days. Whenever I mist the droplets are gone from the surface within about an hour but my cakes look like the pictures that have been described as wet in this thread so I'm a bit confused. I think that all the talk about "glistening with moisture" from looking at other methods has clouded my judgement.
If I leave the lid about as crooked as in the picture you posted Some Dude (Mateah?), then the conditions should be similar to yours; but in case they're not, do you have any advice for determining when the cakes *really* need to be misted?
At first I had applied my vermiculite a bit on the thick side so in order to reach "Moisture glistening" levels it had already to be soaked a lot. That's all fine if I had it let it evap away but as soon as the surface looked a bit dry, because my verm was thicker than average, I sprayed it again, problem was that below the surface it still had water. So many pins ended up being waterlogged and the mycelium was forced to reach the air for oxygen, that combined with it being a bit bacterial made it look frothy, fortunately all worked well in the end.
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clockworkshroom said: In the first post of this thread you suggested lid upside down and rotated to allow a couple of inches FAE but then I see you suggesting leave it closed until the verm layer is partly colonised. That is the right way to do it yeah? you may want to edit the main write up to include that.
Thanks for the super easy awesome tek.
The verm layer partially colonized part doesnt make sense to me, you want the verm to be able to hold moisture, if myc colonizes it, it won't. Plus, the mycelium knows when it's time to fruit, this is evident when you see the unmodified mono setup where colonization and fruiting conditions don't differentiate and it's instead being put in "growing conditions" as in, the myc knows when it has finished colonizing and when it's time to fruit. Cubensis is an aerobic organism and oxygen helps every step of the way.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Phony Phone]
#27143564 - 01/12/21 10:43 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Thanks Phony, I'll allow FAE as soon as they are in.
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Yeah the cake consolidation you do pre spawning is more than enough to signal the mycelium its time to reproduce once it contacts open air.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: eatyualive]
#27199565 - 02/11/21 03:12 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anyone else here fucking PUMPED by the fact that as shroom growing techs advance, they seem to grow simpler and simpler each iteration?
Because I really am.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: towndaze] 1
#27199683 - 02/11/21 04:07 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just got over 2 ounces dry off my first ever grow using this Tek with minimal work. I misted occasionally but it probably didn't make much difference. This is so easy.
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Wanted to give ya props, some dude. I used a water tub recently for fruiting some grain to CV tall 1/2 pint culture testers and it worked really well. It was super easy with the tall 1/2 pints. I fruited 4 1/2 pints in a 8 cup glad container inside a 2 gallon ziplock that I poked needle holes in for FAE.
As you can imagine, it was extremely easy to change the water with the glass jars (only did it once and probably didn’t even need to do that). Good stuff 
Edit: Here’s another successful water tub


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: fahtster]
#27279588 - 04/23/21 05:43 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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fahtster said: Wanted to give ya props, some dude. I used a water tub recently for fruiting some grain to CV tall 1/2 pint culture testers and it worked really well. It was super easy with the tall 1/2 pints. I fruited 4 1/2 pints in a 8 cup glad container inside a 2 gallon ziplock that I poked needle holes in for FAE.
As you can imagine, it was extremely easy to change the water with the glass jars (only did it once and probably didn’t even need to do that). Good stuff 
Faht
Handsome fruits man  And you used a bag instead of a tub so that's like even simpler
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27409717 - 07/31/21 03:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well if it's good enough for you guys I may as well try it.


I have one more cake going in soon.
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27497487 - 10/08/21 03:15 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used a water tub for my first PF cakes, seems pretty foolproof because I got what I needed and more despite being completely new to this.

I also spawned a bunch of cakes to coir in shoeboxes and it's probably my favorite low maintenance, low hassle, discreet way to grow for my situation but water tub definitely got me where I needed to be with those early cakes. Thanks for the tek
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27571759 - 12/06/21 07:02 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the water tub tek! Works fantastically - first timer here and got great results.
Just fruited 8 Mazatapec BRF cakes real quick and borderline maintenance free. Misted once a day and was even able to take an overnight trip without misting for over a day and a half while the shroomskis were mid-growth. Just harvested a decent amount of these!
The 4 cakes that have no growth are of the PE variety which take longer it appears.

Edit: Yield from partial harvest after this pic
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: ahiddenbranch]
#27571885 - 12/06/21 09:31 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awsome man! Tho I think you'd get even better results if you pour in in inch of water inside the tub as per Tek so that you have more surface area of water evaporating into into the environment but anyway looks good
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Edited by Mateja (12/06/21 09:31 PM)
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27572307 - 12/07/21 10:19 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mateja said: Awsome man! Tho I think you'd get even better results if you pour in in inch of water inside the tub as per Tek so that you have more surface area of water evaporating into into the environment but anyway looks good

Thank you for the follow up advice. I believe I have the 1" of water at the bottom as per your tek, just hard to see from the aerial view. Is this what we should be looking at from the side (referencing water level)? Just harvested many more so the box is a bit empty 

Additionally the harvest this morning yielded a great amount, with more to come:

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: ahiddenbranch]
#27572838 - 12/07/21 07:08 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't have my cakes to far from the water. Just sitting on just lids in a shoebox. They're growing but some of the fruits decided they wanted a drying and we just chilling in the water.
Should I harvest the swimmers? Or just figure out a way to raise them up some more?
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Grounder]
#27573036 - 12/07/21 10:54 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hard to say really, optimally you don't want the mushies to be in the water but then again it's doesn't hurt anything either of they go for a short little dip either hope that helps
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27573590 - 12/08/21 12:24 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks brother.
Here's my water chamber so far.
Curious if the little spikes will go any further or if they need something or are they just aborts?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27577440 - 12/11/21 02:23 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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My cakes are seeming to still be producing a good amount of shroomskis right after the first "flush".
There was really only about a 1 day period in-between the harvest and new pins coming out - is this the 2nd flush or a continuation of the first flush? Could the water tub have kept the cake hydrated enough for second flush, or should I still go ahead and dunk them? (Tuesday 12/14/2021 will be a "week" resting period since first main harvest, was waiting a week to dunk due to RR posts). Thank you!
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: ahiddenbranch]
#27580036 - 12/13/21 01:24 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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If cakes feel considerably lighter then I dunk them for 12h but if they still feel kinda heavy then I just let them do their thing until they've lost enough water. Just make sure that when you mist them that you mist from far above at least 4-5 feet to ensure that only the slow hovering micro droplets cover the cakes instead of the bigger ones that start to pool and merge woth one another, you don't want to see actual water on the cakes but for sure you want the surface to be covered by droplets as much as possible.
I've posted these pics alot but imma post them one more time just because... This is how my cakes look every time before they start producing crazy flushes.
 
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27581116 - 12/14/21 12:04 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the tip here! I have a mister that emits micro water particles but appears I have been misting a bit too much (although it was once a day). I will adhere to a lighter amount of mist for my future projects.
The cakes threw out some of the largest, prettiest fruits yet to end what appears to be the first flush - where picking these last night it was clearly time to dunk them now. Thank you for the follow up & appreciate all the information! I will try to roll in coco noir in the future. Looks as if it is much easier to see primordia and new pins developing than through verm!
Looking forward to see if I can get fortunate enough for a second flush haha (may not be able to harvest in time due to holiday trip but still fun!)
Thank you & happy holidays
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] 1
#27614266 - 01/10/22 03:59 PM (2 years, 17 days ago) |
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I'm going to try this tek out on my first grow! I didn't have any grills/cooling racks that fit my shoe box containers, so I 3d printer some to fit. They are printed in ABS so should hold up to being in water.

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