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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] * 1
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Bump.

Here's a dounut fruiting btw, he seems to enjoy slow cooking in tropical climates.
(always grow in normal room temperature if possible, this is purely experimental)




And here's a nice view of the micro climate


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] * 3
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just passing by to endorse this tek :smile:
I was using a SGFC for my cakes and after two weeks I was seeing no sign of pins, so I've decided to move them to one water tub instead and after 3 days they appeared:



I've just harvested these cakes for the first flush (and the bigger one, 35g, was my first trip in about 4 years this weekend: amazing) and added 7 more to the same water tub, and I'll update it here :smile:

on another note, Mateah, what is this metal thingie you put your cakes on top of? I feel stupid not being able to find it and I'm running out of glasses to put cakes on top :laugh:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: retarrrd]
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It's mostly these racks from from the oven :lol: they fit perfectly in my 35L tubs
and some of them are these things you place dishes on after you wash them :grin:

I'm glad you got success with this method

Edited by Mateja (06/22/20 12:59 PM)

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: retarrrd]
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Nice!

And they ask me why I spray the walls of my FC with water :awehigh:

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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:yesnod: exactly

Next experiment will be fruiting inside unmodified tubs with only sprayed walls and bottom, meaning no water and no wet coir :takingnotes:
"walls don't grow" - but they sure help in maintaining good climate :super:


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Edited by Mateja (06/22/20 01:03 PM)

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
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great, "cooling grill" on amazon came up with the desired results :laugh:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: retarrrd]
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Anything that doesn't rust is a good option :super:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
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glad a veteran out there is still experimenting with cakes!  That insane flush a while back didn't look like cubes... what were they?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: SawCeeJack] * 1
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You probably mean these, LGT (Leucistic Golden Teacher) I agree this flush doesn't look like the typical cubes. I have growers asking me for prints from these fruits cause they're interested in this 'phenotype' but it isn't a phenotype it's just the way they happened to look in this flush lol.


Here's the same LGT clone on other cakes


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
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Well, best brf grow I've seen!  :congrats:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: SawCeeJack]
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Maybe I'm late to the game but I dont think stagnant water is good for this hobby.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: ichugwindex] * 1
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'stagnant' isn't really a term that's used in this hobby. But even if it was water would be 'stagnant' in every part of this hobby. Be it hydrated grain or liquid cultures. And now that I reflect on it, for this method water would technically be the least stagnant since it's constantly evaporating then condensing on the surfaces inside the tub and then mixing with the water at the bottom again :super:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] * 1
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Thank you for enlightening me. It actually makes sense when you put it that way.


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Edited by ichugwindex (06/23/20 03:03 AM)

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: ichugwindex] * 1
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Dude at first I didn't even know how to attack that question I felt helpless while my brain was melting away :rofl: I started to notice that however I answer this question I'm either gonna sound like a dick or I'm gonna confuse both of us further. Somehow I managed to pull that answer out of my sleeve in the last second.. phew... 
:tryharder:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] * 1
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I updated the OP to make it more understandable


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
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Jaboka said:
No haha

Its a way to say "frog" in my language.


Malagasy in Madagascar I think...


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Inthepit]
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When the cakes are dunked and rolled in vermiculite, after misting you can't see the fine droplets on the verm, like you see them on the mycelium in the OP probably because the verm absorbed all water. How do you tell in this case when is the right time to mist again/if humidity on the surface is running out?

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Phony Phone] * 1
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Ime when fruiting conditions are optimal myc will regenerate around the outer layer in just the right amount to 'grab' ahold of the verm or coir layer and thus will create optimal fruiting conditions for itself. In that case when you have myc that has regenerated in the right amount around the outer layer you will get precisely tose micro droplets on the substrate surface which are optimal for pin formation.


Tho myc will in most cases not do this if the evaporation rates off the substrate are too extreme resulting in the need to mist several times a day. Ime myc doesn't want the out r layer to be wet/soaked in any way, it just wants high enough humidity in its environment so that is can regenerate that thin whispy part of the colony that will go to work on producing pins. The best pinsets I get is when I don't even have to mist for the 'tiny droplets' surface conditions to be created and maintained. This seems to be the most optimal environment for fruit formation imo, when only minimal or no misting at all is needed.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] * 1
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Here's a simple hack to be able to every time produce this kind of surface conditions where myc grabs ahold of the other layer which is then able to support those micro droplets:


After you have dunked and rolled your cakes place them inside the Water Tub and close the lid shut completely for a day or two or until you notice the myc having 'grabbed' a desirable amount of the verm/coir layer but without the cake having turned into a 'snow ball' being totally engulfed in regenerating myc. Whenever humidity is close to saturation levels mycelium will act in this way. Some growers express this as 'when FAE rates are too low'. Either way, extremely slowed down evaporation seems to cause this reaction. Further this trick can also be performed on cakes that have had their surface conditions seriously messed up by previous harsh conditions, in that case one can simply coat the cakes in a new layer and then shut off FAE completely for a short period until surface conditions have improved and then gradually increase FAE as you're managing the newly reastablished micro climate.


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Edited by Mateja (09/30/20 04:20 AM)

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
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Thanks man. Got a few more questions if u got the time.
So the cakes in the WT have been sprayed on, last this was done was a few hours ago, outer casing is verm as I told u, now, the myc is starting to 'pop' through the verm or mildly regenerating as u put it, however, compared to the sgfc the myc looks fuzzier in the WT, less dense tho nothing too dramatic (will post pics later).

The question is, its too late for the lid to be closed and let the myc regen as u put it in the post above, because the cakes have been misted on, correct? The surface would be too saturated for it to work. If that is the case, does the lid have to be left slightly cracked for a slow evap? Can it be given more square inches or will it be too much fae at this point?

Thanks

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