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OfflineYahra
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Changed] * 1
    #28619548 - 01/13/24 09:36 AM (15 days, 12 hours ago)

Imho the lid should be cracked a little the whole time.

Don't "remove" it.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Yahra]
    #28619554 - 01/13/24 09:46 AM (15 days, 11 hours ago)

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Yahra said:
Imho the lid should be cracked a little the whole time.

Don't "remove" it.




Yeah, poor choice of words. I can see some pins already, so I'll going to crack it open a bit.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Changed] * 1
    #28619566 - 01/13/24 10:07 AM (15 days, 11 hours ago)

You don’t need separate conditions for colonization and fruiting. Keep FAE throughout the process. It’s alive and breathing, don’t suffocate it


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Changed]
    #28619597 - 01/13/24 10:43 AM (15 days, 10 hours ago)

Are you sure those are pins? Dude my cakes are week old and i still don't see pins even tho like 4 cakes are almost completely covered in myc, how much FAE and light have you been giving them? Also would like to know how many cakes you got going.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337] * 2
    #28619625 - 01/13/24 11:08 AM (15 days, 10 hours ago)

Member said they see pins in a post from an hour ago. You’re looking at pictures from 2 days ago.
I don’t birth cakes until I see pins rather. I usually get mushrooms 2 days post dunk.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: The Tao]
    #28619713 - 01/13/24 12:16 PM (15 days, 9 hours ago)

oh ok, i birthed some of mine (4) about 23 days after inoculation and they were consolidating for quite some time too, now i got 7 cakes going, 1 jar got contaminated, so next time should i really wait until i see pins? I wonder how that affects yeild and How much longer would that take.. This is my first grow btw


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28619727 - 01/13/24 12:25 PM (15 days, 9 hours ago)

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Smellyhobbit said:
You don’t need separate conditions for colonization and fruiting. Keep FAE throughout the process. It’s alive and breathing, don’t suffocate it




The first post of this thread from Mateja says to leave them in a fully closed box, then open the box to allow FAE at a later point...


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Changed] * 1
    #28619738 - 01/13/24 12:36 PM (15 days, 9 hours ago)

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Changed said:
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Smellyhobbit said:
You don’t need separate conditions for colonization and fruiting. Keep FAE throughout the process. It’s alive and breathing, don’t suffocate it




The first post of this thread from Mateja says to leave them in a fully closed box, then open the box to allow FAE at a later point...




I'm not sure why it's written that way. Probably because it will help raise humidity very quickly. We put tubs into fruiting conditions at spawn. I think cakes are pretty hardy when fully colonized and having the fresh air to wick moisture away from the surface is going to be that good pinning trigger.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28619747 - 01/13/24 12:46 PM (15 days, 8 hours ago)

I roll my cakes and leave them sealed in the water tub for a day. It seems to help the vermiculite or coir adhere to the cakes. Mist the cakes and straight to fruiting.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28619749 - 01/13/24 12:53 PM (15 days, 8 hours ago)

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Martin1337 said:
oh ok, i birthed some of mine (4) about 23 days after inoculation and they were consolidating for quite some time too, now i got 7 cakes going, 1 jar got contaminated, so next time should i really wait until i see pins? I wonder how that affects yeild and How much longer would that take.. This is my first grow btw



I know my cakes are ready when I see pins after 4-5 weeks post inoculation. Pins survive dunking just fine.
Yield is good for cakes.
Pins.

Cakes.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: The Tao]
    #28619827 - 01/13/24 01:58 PM (15 days, 7 hours ago)

Good to know, that's more than a week less for the fast first 4 i birthed, i think mateja said it takes 3-4 days for the pin to reach past the coir layer so i guess they're all pinning now underneath, today i put them under my spiderfarmer grow light, the cakes are 150cm away from it so i think it won't hurt, it's bright like daylight in there so i really hope it will help, up until today i was just using led desk lamp but i need it in my bed lol so this spiderfarmer in my tent is pulling 48W at minimum which is very bright for SMD chips so i raised it that high to not stress them.



one of the cakes shot today


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28619858 - 01/13/24 02:23 PM (15 days, 7 hours ago)

That’s looking great.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28621858 - 01/15/24 08:13 AM (13 days, 13 hours ago)

Everybody here seems to be using the water tub tek for "active" mushrooms, using PFtek. However, I read that gourmets often have a higher FAE requirement and are less CO2 tolerant than "active" mushrooms. Would a SGFC be better than a water tub for gourmet mushrooms? I tried to fruit Pink Oysters and Lions Mane using the Water tub tek but the fruits were slow to ... fruit and not that big.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: prawnmunch3r]
    #28621889 - 01/15/24 08:44 AM (13 days, 12 hours ago)

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prawnmunch3r said:
Everybody here seems to be using the water tub tek for "active" mushrooms, using PFtek. However, I read that gourmets often have a higher FAE requirement and are less CO2 tolerant than "active" mushrooms. Would a SGFC be better than a water tub for gourmet mushrooms? I tried to fruit Pink Oysters and Lions Mane using the Water tub tek but the fruits were slow to ... fruit and not that big.




I think PF Tek is more of a science experiment than a large scale production method for gourmets. Did you use the standard BRF / verm recipe or did you supplement with hardwood in any way?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28625692 - 01/18/24 09:01 AM (10 days, 12 hours ago)

I used master's mix (HWFP + Soy Pellets 1:1)


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: prawnmunch3r] * 2
    #28625721 - 01/18/24 09:39 AM (10 days, 11 hours ago)

Can confirm: Shoebox water tub tek works



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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Changed]
    #28625729 - 01/18/24 09:53 AM (10 days, 11 hours ago)

Yo bro, your toupēe collection is showing


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LadysKnight] * 1
    #28625740 - 01/18/24 10:12 AM (10 days, 11 hours ago)

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Yo bro, your toupēe collection is showing




My partner's knitting shit on my desk :whatchatallkingabout:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Changed]
    #28625757 - 01/18/24 10:31 AM (10 days, 11 hours ago)


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
    #28626782 - 01/19/24 06:38 AM (9 days, 14 hours ago)

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Mateja said:
After having dunked your colonized cakes for 24h rinse them off quickly and then use hydrated coir to coat the cakes around the sides and on the top. This outer layer should be roughly 5-10mm thick, and the coir shouldn't easily fall of, don't be afraid to press the coir firmly into place when needed, the cakes can handle it just try to make the coir layer around the same thickness for all the cakes.




I messed up and only rolled a very thin layer of wet verm instead of 5-10mm. What differences might I see, or need, because of this discrepancy?


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