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Offline420Botanist
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Boletus Incredulis]
    #28608512 - 01/03/24 02:29 PM (25 days, 6 hours ago)

If you're comfortable with posting some pics would be good to see.

Hopefully you'll be good, it might just be a bit slow. Let us know how it goes :mushroom2:


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OfflineBoletus Incredulis
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: 420Botanist]
    #28609262 - 01/04/24 08:31 AM (24 days, 12 hours ago)

Not super comfortable with posting phone pics and all that metadata that I don't understand it that's ok. But definitely seeing even more progress now with more Mycelium coming through! Feels like it's growing about 1/3 the speed of Mateja's I recon. Lid is absolutely sealed with that rubber draft seal I put on. Thanks for the interest and replies!


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Boletus Incredulis]
    #28609268 - 01/04/24 08:41 AM (24 days, 12 hours ago)

FWIW - Shroomery strips all the EXIF data from images when you upload them so don't let that be a barrier to posting pics.  Just keep anything like faces, fingerprints or landmarks out of the images and you'll be fine.  LEO has bigger issues to deal with than some person trying to grow mushrooms for personal use.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: PBJ710]
    #28609515 - 01/04/24 02:19 PM (24 days, 6 hours ago)

Ah thanks I didn't know that. Well I will post some if I have any issues... or any great successes! Think next time I'm gonna try somewhere else in the hope i can get some spores that produce more aggressive, properly white mycelium.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Boletus Incredulis]
    #28609552 - 01/04/24 03:10 PM (24 days, 6 hours ago)

So i am trying this tek because i've got a bag of 70% coco / 30% perlite and no more vermi, i just dunked 4 of my cakes and they're just floating on top, that's normal right? Should i stir the water every few hours or so? I am going for 20+ hour dunk and then i am gonna roll them in the coco mix i got, i can't make the water tub so quickly but i got a bag of liapor that came with this "grow kit" and i have a nice plastic chamber for about 6 cakes with no holes in it. So i think i am gonna achieve pretty high humidity.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28609556 - 01/04/24 03:12 PM (24 days, 6 hours ago)

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Martin1337 said:
So i am trying this tek because i've got a bag of 70% coco / 30% perlite and no more vermi, i just dunked 4 of my cakes and they're just floating on top, that's normal right? Should i stir the water every few hours or so? I am going for 20+ hour dunk and then i am gonna roll them in the coco mix i got, i can't make the water tub so quickly but i got a bag of liopor that came with this "grow kit" and i have a nice plastic chamber with no holes in it. So i think i am gonna achieve pretty high humidity.




The perlite is mixed with the coir? You don't want perlite on the cakes. Just straight coir. If you don't have some, id suggest you go run to the pet store instead of trying that.

Submerge the cakes by sticking something like a plate on top of then.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Way]
    #28609564 - 01/04/24 03:17 PM (24 days, 5 hours ago)

will do, that's a good idea, about the perlite i've read somewhere here on shroomery that it's good to use perlite for rolling, not sure if mixed with vermi or smth or just straight but i know someone said it so i thought it might be a good idea.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28609570 - 01/04/24 03:22 PM (24 days, 5 hours ago)

Maybe you could get by with a mix of only 30%, but it is not good to use perlite for rolling. Verm or coir is the recommended. Not perlite.

Verm retains moisture, perlite provides a large surface area for moisture to evaporate off.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Way]
    #28609631 - 01/04/24 04:09 PM (24 days, 5 hours ago)

Oh ok, i made another newbie mistake i thought casing layer is what people call the roll layer on the cakes and then i googled casing layer oops, i think i can get a lot of the perlite to fall off to less than 5% with the help of something or if not someone bored will take it out..


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28610299 - 01/05/24 09:55 AM (23 days, 11 hours ago)

So i took most of the perlite out by soaking it, i think i will boil to make sure because it's been opened for more than a year, should i also apply it to the bottom of the cake? I hope this will be worth it compared to just dunking and not rolling. So the yields with coco coir is bigger and success rate too?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28610417 - 01/05/24 11:48 AM (23 days, 9 hours ago)

Nobody would ever recommend dunking and not rolling if fruiting in a tub. The rolling is what keeps the mycelium from drying out as fast.

Coat the entire cake. Just like the OP says.

You'll have a easier time maintaining the conditions of your cake when it is properly rolled.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28610448 - 01/05/24 12:14 PM (23 days, 8 hours ago)

alright, real good news, we managed to take out 99% of the perlite out by meshing and then when we boiled it even the smallest perlite particles ended up floating on top so we scooped everything and now i'm getting ready for the roll, the coir needs to be at room temp right?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28610464 - 01/05/24 12:26 PM (23 days, 8 hours ago)

Correct, let it cool. Also do your best to get it close to field capacity if it isn't already there. Doesn't need to be exact, but you don't want mud.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28610497 - 01/05/24 01:00 PM (23 days, 8 hours ago)

The bad news is they didn't give me enough liapor but i can use small plates and jar lids to keep the humidity at 99% i think, my chamber looks like this so far so it should be perfect for the 4 cakes now.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28610522 - 01/05/24 01:21 PM (23 days, 7 hours ago)

The only thing a water tub needs to work is an inch or two of water and something to keep the cakes out of the water. :thumbup:

Could always turn some jars upside down or something as well.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Way]
    #28610542 - 01/05/24 01:43 PM (23 days, 7 hours ago)

when i poured in water the liapor spread out evenly, i am done with 2 cakes they look good i think, i will wrap 2 more lids in tinfoil it was one of the techs i've seen because the lids could also have some bacteria in it.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337]
    #28610642 - 01/05/24 03:01 PM (23 days, 6 hours ago)

Here's what it looks like now, it was a bit hard to get the coir to stick is it fine if i leave it a bit exposed like that? I also need to know if i should mist it now or after it colonises the coir.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Martin1337] * 1
    #28610666 - 01/05/24 03:16 PM (23 days, 5 hours ago)

You want to do your best to make sure the entire surface is covered. Get the coir a bit more wet and use a bit of force if ya have to.

I'm still not sure the point of the liapor though when this tek makes no mention of it. It's just a tub of water. It should be fine but it has no benefit over straight water in my opinion.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Way]
    #28610762 - 01/05/24 04:39 PM (23 days, 4 hours ago)

Will do, i think the benefit of the liapor is to make sure the water doesn't get on the small plate or in the jar lids, especially when moving the tub from place to place.


Edited by Martin1337 (01/08/24 07:28 AM)


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: 420Botanist]
    #28611810 - 01/06/24 02:23 PM (22 days, 6 hours ago)



5 Days since coir coating, As you can see quite slow! How many days do you think till cracking open the lid as this rate?!


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