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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #28305337 - 05/03/23 05:54 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

Coir does not need to be pasteurized. Hot water is fine.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #28305364 - 05/03/23 06:09 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

It's not required.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: NFLProof]
    #28308214 - 05/05/23 08:07 PM (8 months, 19 days ago)

Hi Legends!

Quick question... I have just put some cakes in the water tub and coated them with coir. This is my first time doing water tub from start to finish. The coir was at field capacity (I didn't realize it should be wetter than that). They have only been in there 2 days but there is no mycelium growth through the coir yet. Should I mist the coir to get it a bit wetter? From what I have read I think I should just leave it alone. Just looking for conformation. I am usually a bit impatient. Pic below.



Also, if anyone is interested, below is a pic of some cakes that were in a sgfc. They did nothing after 2.5 weeks. I asked some people here and they said to try the water tub tek. I transferred them to one and one started to pin 4 days later. I noticed they were growing fresh mycelium on the bottom half and underneath. I turned 3  that hadn't pinned over to see what would happen. I have noticed that once I sprayed the ones with fresh mycelium, the droplets stay on the surface as the original post suggests but no pins on them. the other 2 are slowly having new pins appear every 3 or 4 of days. I had given up on them so any shrooms are a bonus. The cakes do not look very well. They have been out for 4 weeks now. Pic below.



Any input to the coir question would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks heaps!


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: smallmouse] * 1
    #28308347 - 05/05/23 09:53 PM (8 months, 19 days ago)

The coir looks like it was applied a bit thick and unevenly. Mateja recommended 5-10mm / ~1/4" and as evenly as possible. Overly hydrated coir was recommended to help it stick better, no mention of the extra water content of the coir speeding up the colonization of the coir. If it's at field capacity and the lid has been completely closed to restrict FAE and the cakes were dunked for 24hr, I'd say just give it time and let it ride. Shouldn't have to worry about the coir drying out with the lid closed since humidity should be >95%. May just take a few days longer for the mycelium to take hold and grow through to the surface.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Zukrya]
    #28308395 - 05/05/23 11:07 PM (8 months, 19 days ago)

Thanks man,

The coir is definitely no more than 10mm but yes, it’s very uneven. I just ended up taking what I could get with regard to it sticking, It kept falling off. I’ll just leave it for a bit.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: smallmouse] * 2
    #28308464 - 05/06/23 12:52 AM (8 months, 19 days ago)

No worries, just something to keep in mind for next time. Check back on pg. 30 for Mateja's very helpful process & tips for applying the coir :thumbup: Also, I'm still very new to this amazing hobby, and just beginning my first Water Tub Tek journey as well. Been reading and studying this tek & thread religiously. Perhaps an experienced grower can chime in, just thought I'd confirm your intuition and heed the wisdom of resisting the urge to mess with it and let it do it's thing. Best of luck with your grow!

My first WT setup right after dropping the cakes in on 5/2 & 72 hours later today on 5/5 before misting:



The room temp gets down to ~65 at night and ~73 during the day

Errors/concerns: cakes took 4.5 weeks to colonize due to MS syringe & jar lids with 1 SHIP. They were barely 100% with a couple not quite all the way there after birthing, but all starting to pin. Tried to scrape off the uncolonized parts, but should've waited a couple days. Realized foil underneath was too big, so slid foil out a couple hours ago to promote better access to evaporation from the water below and to prevent pooling of water.

Thanks so much to Mateja and everyone else who provided all the great info on this tek!


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: smallmouse]
    #28308486 - 05/06/23 01:19 AM (8 months, 19 days ago)

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Hi Legends!

Also, if anyone is interested, below is a pic of some cakes that were in a sgfc. They did nothing after 2.5 weeks. I asked some people here and they said to try the water tub tek. I transferred them to one and one started to pin 4 days later. I noticed they were growing fresh mycelium on the bottom half and underneath. I turned 3  that hadn't pinned over to see what would happen. I have noticed that once I sprayed the ones with fresh mycelium, the droplets stay on the surface as the original post suggests but no pins on them. the other 2 are slowly having new pins appear every 3 or 4 of days. I had given up on them so any shrooms are a bonus. The cakes do not look very well. They have been out for 4 weeks now. Pic below.



Any input to the coir question would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks heaps!




looks like they got overly wet without enough time for evaporation to happen. Hence why they are opening early and very small.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Zukrya]
    #28308649 - 05/06/23 06:04 AM (8 months, 19 days ago)

Thanks bro! They look great, that’s what I’m hoping for.  I’m a bit behind you so hopefully they catch up. Have you read the whole thread? Good effort if so. I did read the bit about applying the coir…… after I’d done it! Good luck with your grow too.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Ziran] * 1
    #28308652 - 05/06/23 06:07 AM (8 months, 19 days ago)

Yeah man, the whole thing was a bit of a disaster. Looks like I might be able to salvage something with the water tub. It’s all a learning process I guess.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: smallmouse] * 4
    #28309925 - 05/07/23 05:39 AM (8 months, 18 days ago)



Pin City continues. Thx Mateja you saved me off too much shenanigans.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Nck] * 2
    #28309978 - 05/07/23 07:17 AM (8 months, 18 days ago)

Love the color on those :mushroom2:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Nck] * 2
    #28310002 - 05/07/23 08:01 AM (8 months, 18 days ago)

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Pin City continues. Thx Mateja you saved me off too much shenanigans.




This cakes look real nice.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #28310588 - 05/07/23 05:49 PM (8 months, 18 days ago)

I'm using a 6-qt shoebox as my water chamber for a single cake.  Is that too small, or should it be perfect?  The lid doesn't come anywhere close to being tight, so i just kinda let it sit on there, and after about 24 hours the majority of the condensation on the sides and top was gone.  I'm at altitude and its like 30% humidity inside my house, so its incredibly dry, but I feel like people generally don't have to touch these.  Should I keep rewetting the sides daily or don't touch it as long as there is water in there?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: tktktk131313]
    #28310693 - 05/07/23 07:46 PM (8 months, 18 days ago)

I'm using shoeboxes for my stragglers because I got so many at different stages. My lid locks, though. The inside tub surfaces shouldn't dry up. Can you weight down the lid with something, or maybe do some layers of cling wrap or aluminum foil around the lid to act as a sealing gasket? Just a thought.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Hysteria]
    #28310716 - 05/07/23 08:12 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

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I'm using shoeboxes for my stragglers because I got so many at different stages. My lid locks, though. The inside tub surfaces shouldn't dry up. Can you weight down the lid with something, or maybe do some layers of cling wrap or aluminum foil around the lid to act as a sealing gasket? Just a thought.




I definitely can do that.  I thought the gaps were giving me the same airflow as the corner opening the TEK talks about so I left it.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: tktktk131313] * 1
    #28310747 - 05/07/23 08:57 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

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I definitely can do that.  I thought the gaps were giving me the same airflow as the corner opening the TEK talks about so I left it.




Not if the tub is drying up. Too much. I'm assuming you have 50-70% new myc coming through the coir or verm. If not it should be closed completely.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Hysteria] * 1
    #28310767 - 05/07/23 09:24 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

Ahh!  Yes I just put them into the water chamber yesterday.  0 mycelium coming thru yet.  Will put a piece of tape around it.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: tktktk131313]
    #28311635 - 05/08/23 04:11 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

Hi guys,
So, my cakes have been in the water tub for about 5 days and I have hardly any new myc growth. See picture



After about 3-4 days I knocked a bit of coir off as it was a bit think and I did give it a light spray as it looked dry. They lid is quite a nice fit so there would be no fae.

Do I need a light? It’s nearly winter here and they are by a window that doesn’t get a huge amount of light. There is probably 10hrs a day. I have some other cakes in another tub that are fruiting a bit and the fruits are growing pretty slow. They don’t seem to grow much at night. I’m keeping the room temp between 65-75.

I did a grow about 6 weeks ago in a sgfc in the same room  and got 20g dry from 2 flushes. Was stoked!

I’m a bit lost as to why there is hardly any myc growth. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks heaps!


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: smallmouse]
    #28311641 - 05/08/23 04:16 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

You need to restrict FAE for new myc to grow. Close the lid fully for 2 days.

10 hours of light is fine.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Yahra]
    #28311653 - 05/08/23 04:21 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

The fae is fully restricted. The lid fits really well.

The light is only dull indirect light. I thought it was fine too but it’s about all I could think of.


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