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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit]
#27930063 - 09/02/22 04:11 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Funny how much those few grew in like 6 hours but is it normal for them to be growing upside down, they are about to start growing into the water im assuming that isnt suppose to happen
Yeah they do seem to take a sort of sentient joy in growing down towards the water. That’s where I get many of my largest PF fruits.
I had a pint cake pin like that once and it produced this huge mushroom bigger than my whole arm. I couldn't weigh it cuz it maxed all my scales and it didn't fit in my dehydrator so I had to cut it in like 10 pieces
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit]
#27930483 - 09/02/22 11:30 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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The cap is now entering the water do I need to pull that guy or will he just grow fully into the water lol
Edited by Danny McBride (09/02/22 11:34 AM)
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Danny McBride] 1
#27930492 - 09/02/22 11:43 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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The cap is now entering the water do I need to pull that guy or will he just grow fully into the water lol
Yeah take that out of the water. If the mushroom comes off dehydrate it. If not, you can use a jar to elevate the cake.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Danny McBride]
#27930511 - 09/02/22 11:57 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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The cap is now entering the water do I need to pull that guy or will he just grow fully into the water lol
That water is likely hosting every unpleasant spore drifting around in your home. Without nutrients, those spores are just waiting. That mushroom is a nutrient. Some of those unpleasant spores are going to eventually land on your mushroom and start populating. If the mushroom is harvested before that happens, then there is no problem. If the hitchhiker from the water grows fast enough, it may climb up the shroom and infect the cake, too.
You may be fine, or you may lose the whole cake. It all depends on what landed in the water and if it finds and can grow quickly on the mushroom. No one can truly say because we don't know what's in the water or how many days until you pick the shroom. I'd say two days max, because at that point a colony of something from the water will be growing (just like you see on an agar plate).
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] 1
#27930522 - 09/02/22 12:02 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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The real danger is wet rot. It’s not good to have your mushrooms underwater like that.
Spores are all over your cake all the time after they’re birthed.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit] 1
#27930835 - 09/02/22 03:33 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Smellyhobbit said: The real danger is wet rot. It’s not good to have your mushrooms underwater like that.
Spores are all over your cake all the time after they’re birthed.
Good point, I wasn't even thinking that all the spores in the water also landed on the cake. That makes most of what I was thinking completely irrelevant.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27930864 - 09/02/22 03:53 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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That's weird... for some reason whenever mine grow down, they tend to turn before they hit the water.. I've had a bunch grow down but they never seem to hit the water maybe the cultures I'm running have become sentient
Edit: shitty picture, but an example of what im talking about

You can see one in the center of the picture and you can barely make out one on the left behind the jar.. both turned before hitting the water
Edited by Rotnpins (09/02/22 03:58 PM)
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] 1
#27931309 - 09/02/22 08:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Just a thought, but ambient light might be the culprit. If the mushrooms have no source of light above the chamber they could grow wonky. Especially since they are elevated in the chamber, light could in theory reach even the bottom of the cakes. If light was at the same level throughout the chamber instead of slightly stronger up top, maybe they are confused? If you compare Danny and Rotnpins' pictures, Rotnpins you can see has more light coming through the top, and the mushroom turned up. Danny's seems darker, and it doesn't know where to go. Just a guess, I'm a noob lol.
Edited by MindSailor (09/02/22 08:37 PM)
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27931363 - 09/02/22 09:18 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Interesting.. very possible. I've got a bright 6500k light directly above my cakes.
You might be on to something. If you've ever done a grow with light just at one side of the tub, the fruits tend to lean toward the light.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27932869 - 09/03/22 09:47 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Has anyone tried the water tub with shoeboxes?
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaksavage]
#27932882 - 09/03/22 09:56 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Jaksavage said: Has anyone tried the water tub with shoeboxes?
I had a shoebox throwing nothing but side pins. I took the substrate out and popped it into the water tub. Worked great.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit] 1
#27935478 - 09/05/22 02:14 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Put into the water tub on 8/30 and flipped the lid yesterday morning. The water droplets inside the walls of the chamber had evaporated so I gave it a misting this morning.
Do the surface conditions look good for after misting? Hopefully you can see the water droplets in the pictures.
Also, should I be misting daily or no? Is there anything I can look for to let me know that it’s time to add a little bit of moisture to the environment?
Thanks for any feed back y’all!
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: zebrazebra]
#27935488 - 09/05/22 02:24 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Looking good! Surface moisture on point, as long as you keep the surface looking like that your good. No fanning, just time.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: cozmyc]
#27937336 - 09/06/22 02:29 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I’ve been patiently waiting and although they are throwing off a lot of metabolites, I finally have some pinning! One cake has quite a few and a few others have poked through on about 3 more! They might be fighting contamination, but dammit, they want to fulfill their destiny!! These look a lot different from the GT’s I grew!
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] 2
#27949253 - 09/14/22 07:21 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Over estimated how much space I had
 Going to need to get another water tub
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Rotnpins]
#27950573 - 09/14/22 10:00 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Rotnpins said: Over estimated how much space I had
 Going to need to get another water tub
That's a full house there. Can't wait to see how they come along!
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: CJD]
#28001555 - 10/16/22 09:33 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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It's been highly recommended that I switch over to water tubs for my PF Tek BFR jars by multiple people. I have some questions I couldn't find specific answers for. Also... my computer restarted on its own... so I lost all the tabs I had on this topic, and Chrome decided not to give them back to me this time.
1. How tall does the baking rack need to be? I have one, but it's only 1/2 an inch tall, and the instructions state to add one inch of water. I assume my baking rack is too short, because the water should not be touching the bottom of the cakes, correct?
2. Can I use coco coir instead of verm to roll/cake the BFR cakes in? I don't have verm on hand, but I have 7 jars almost ready, and I likely won't get paid for about a week or two.
3. Just so I make sure I understand, no PAE holes, only crack the tub at the point indicated in the original post?
Thanks in advance!
Edit: One more question: I have my tubs on a 5 tier rack/shelving. After the cakes get to the point of cracking the lid... is it a worry if I take them off the shelf for inspection / water in the bottom sloshing around?
Edited by echochild (10/16/22 09:35 AM)
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: echochild]
#28001560 - 10/16/22 09:36 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Just set the rack on some 1/2 pint jars. Yes, coir will work. Correct, you don't need to drill any holes.
I think you're making the right decision
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Rotnpins]
#28001630 - 10/16/22 10:47 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Coir gang!
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#28001669 - 10/16/22 11:11 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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I liked my coir cakes more, too.
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