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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: hambonemcgee]
    #27912070 - 08/21/22 05:29 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

That's right, bud. Better safe than frustrated lol keep it up!


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
    #27916876 - 08/24/22 03:41 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Does this look about right for cakes that were subjected to the lid closed treatment for 2 days.  I have flipped over the lid and turned it slightly.  I am giving a light misting, once daily.  It’s been about 36 hours since I introduced fresh air.  No pins yet.  This is a spore from PremiumSpores, it’s called “Air Force One” and it’s a cube hybrid of some sort.  I know my Golden teacher was inoculated at the same time and is already in it’s second flush.  These cakes took much longer to consolidate.  Hopefully they will pin in this water tub https://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/22-34/137693163-DEE980B8-6F04-4008-9DCA-A20FDDD14689.jpg


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
    #27916896 - 08/24/22 03:56 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

They look like they’re on track to me, bud.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: hambonemcgee] * 1
    #27917419 - 08/24/22 10:55 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

You can mist them whenever you see they are dry. Once the small drops from the spray disappear, you can lightly mist and fan.
Never heard of this strain btw, so not much I can say about it. As many people say "a cube is a cube". Keep us posted.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jaboka]
    #27917529 - 08/25/22 01:55 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Aye cube is a cube, although there is a chance one the ape/penis envy strains truly are stronger, so perhaps arrange to get/make prints of them next time. I just bought a syringe of them for next time I have time.

Btw Coir is way easier to see regarding whether it needs moisture, helps resist bacteria better and I had better yields with it, although I wasn't very scientific about recording it. However anecdotally I think  most say the same. But test for yourself whether this is true with you specific growing conditions, you could try both next time like I did. :smile:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Solil8quy]
    #27918411 - 08/25/22 03:41 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Slightly different topic.  My lid, when flipped upside down, has about an 1/8-1/4 inch gap, basically around the entire perimeter.  I wonder if turning the lid slightly may be  unnecessary on this tub, since I have a gap all the way around already.  Does that make sense??


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: hambonemcgee]
    #27918660 - 08/25/22 06:03 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yeah, if the lid naturally sits open like that, you should be good. :mushroom2:

Edit: sorry, I read that weird. If flipping leaves that much of a gap all around, it may give too much FAE too fast. Keep an eye on surface moisture.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
    #27918706 - 08/25/22 06:38 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

My tub doesn’t form a seal with the lid on, even with the latches closed. It allows for a little more FAE than I’d like, but not enough to be a problem. I just mist  once a day or every other day. To be honest I can’t stop myself from opening it up and looking in; im too fascinated.

Anyway long winded way of saying the lid on normally is almost definitely fine as long as it isn’t air tight.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27920893 - 08/27/22 09:25 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Still no pins, but lots of white mycelium.  Do these cakes look close to pinning?  Also, the far right cake is getting a bit beige at the top.  I don’t know if it’s contamination or metabolites, the other cakes don’t show this discoloration.  Thanks to everyone responding to my noob inquiries! 


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
    #27920896 - 08/27/22 09:27 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

They’ve been in there for about 5 days now. Don’t expect pins before a week.

It’s turning beige? Are they nice and moist?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
    #27920901 - 08/27/22 09:35 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Have you seen a measurable difference between using the coir to using vermiculite?  I like the idea seems like coir would hold more water allowing for longer fruiting times of the BRF cakes.  How about contamination?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: croyleje]
    #27920905 - 08/27/22 09:38 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Have you seen a measurable difference between using the coir to using vermiculite?  I like the idea seems like coir would hold more water allowing for longer fruiting times of the BRF cakes.  How about contamination?



Contam seems to happen in my tub whenever the cakes don’t have anything left to give.

I couldn’t tell you 100% for sure if coir is better, but in my mind it seems like it provides more water. The cakes tend to colonize the coir more fully before pinning vs verm, but honestly I’ve been using both and I don’t think it has an impact on how much fruit it’s going to make. I’ve had amazing pinsets on verm too.

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27920922 - 08/27/22 09:50 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

One day, about 48 hours ago, the lid must have gotten bumped when I left for work.  When I got home ten hours later, the humidity meter said 75 percent and they were a bit dry


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: hambonemcgee]
    #27920960 - 08/27/22 10:13 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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One day, about 48 hours ago, the lid must have gotten bumped when I left for work.  When I got home ten hours later, the humidity meter said 75 percent and they were a bit dry



Just make sure they stay hydrated. If they get dry, that can impact growth too. Otherwise be patient. It can take a couple of weeks to get mushrooms.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27921097 - 08/27/22 11:39 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

These jars were inoculated the same time I did six cakes of Golden teacher.  The Golden teachers are almost done with the second flush,( I used little sgfc’s from gladware tubs which worked great for 2 cakes).  Meanwhile, these are taking much longer!  I guess I am questioning whether something is wrong but I also know that different strains grow differently.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: hambonemcgee]
    #27921116 - 08/27/22 11:47 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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These jars were inoculated the same time I did six cakes of Golden teacher.  The Golden teachers are almost done with the second flush,( I used little sgfc’s from gladware tubs which worked great for 2 cakes).  Meanwhile, these are taking much longer!  I guess I am questioning whether something is wrong but I also know that different strains grow differently.



Did you put the GT in the water tub at the same time? I can’t imagine in 5 days you’ve gotten two flushes lol.

Time and conditions. You’ll get fruit.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27921272 - 08/27/22 01:41 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

No, the gt’s consolidated much faster(2 weeks faster), so they got the sgfc treatment, only these late bloomers were put in a water tub.  The gt’s have been fruiting for almost 2 weeks.  The first flush ran right into the second flush almost immediately, after I dunked them, I had new pins in less than 24 hours


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: hambonemcgee]
    #27921279 - 08/27/22 01:44 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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No, the gt’s consolidated much faster(2 weeks faster), so they got the sgfc treatment, only these late bloomers were put in a water tub.  The gt’s have been fruiting for almost 2 weeks.  The first flush ran right into the second flush almost immediately, after I dunked them, I had new pins in less than 24 hours



Yeah that all sounds good 👍

Everything colonizes and fruits at different speeds. Comparing different varieties from different multi spore grows won’t get you anywhere. It’s normal for some to move slowly and some to move more quickly.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27923478 - 08/29/22 03:05 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Thanks for all your reassuring advice!  I thought I saw my first pin yesterday, but after 18 hours, I see it isn’t a pin but droplets of an amber liquid, almost looks like honey.  Very small, maybe 1/16”.  I saw a small group of 3 droplets on one cake and one tiny droplet on another.  I don’t know what it is, my other cakes that fruited never showed this.  Any idea what it could be?  I can possibly get a photo if necessary


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: hambonemcgee]
    #27923511 - 08/29/22 04:08 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I searched the forums and found the droplets are probably metabolites that are forming from fighting a possible bacterial infection.  I guess it may or may not significantly effect fruiting


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