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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Racoon4]
    #27856692 - 07/09/22 09:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Maybe more water in the water tub will help? I have used some small jars with very wet coir to help with humidity also…I think it can evaporate easier from coir, could be ass backwards tho :lol:

ive had a water tub in low rh environment with a fan blowing and had no issues with having to mist that often, can I see your tub? just out of curiosity…


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: san pedro guy]
    #27856705 - 07/09/22 09:36 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Here is one of my water tubs. It's an unmodified 5gal sterilite with the lid always closed (fruiting conditions). Ok it's not really unmodified, but I just plugged the already existing holes with duct tape.



I thought about putting more water a few times but after thinking about it I dont get the point. it's not like it gets more surface area with more water, there's just less space in the tub. I'm not the smartest guy tho so I honestly don't know what would happen.

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Racoon4] * 1
    #27856748 - 07/09/22 10:11 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

interesting…I had this crazy idea about a water tub but with wet paper towels on the side, part of the towel in the water so it wouldn’t dry up…the idea wuld be the water evaporates offf the paper towel as it’s siphoned back up….This way i could add extra fae without sacrificing humidty:shrug: might try it some day haha

can the light get thru that lid?

man that’s rough tho, hope you can figure out something easier eventually


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: san pedro guy]
    #27857018 - 07/10/22 08:07 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I’ll give it a few they’ve does seem to be healthy and still growing out ward. The top shoebox has been wet like little drops from the humidity. I will update accordingly.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: bdzsmkr365247]
    #27860108 - 07/12/22 04:12 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

So I cased some cakes after about 22/23 hours soaking in coir. The coir didn’t seem to stick as well compared to a caked that only soaked about 3 hours. Is this unheard of or unusual? I did the best I could getting the coir to stick but it’s is close to bare in some spots on the cakes..

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: bdzsmkr365247]
    #27860348 - 07/12/22 07:25 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I've never let cakes soak in casing before, but that sounds genius. I'm planning on trying that next time I dunk some cakes.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Racoon4]
    #27861386 - 07/13/22 03:51 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I put the casing after soaking. Str8 coir


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: bdzsmkr365247]
    #27861402 - 07/13/22 04:04 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I put the casing after soaking. Str8 coir



Ah the wording was a bit confusing lol. I see it now.

I have cakes I plan on casing in coir in a few days/a week. I’ll post here with results.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
    #27862191 - 07/14/22 08:19 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Yes I did word that, that way, didn't I? Long days..


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
    #27862291 - 07/14/22 10:02 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Will a water tub provide enough humidity for trays about 9" x 13" x 2", of Panaeolus cyanescens aka Copelandia cyanescens, (in a substrate of mainly verm.,manure, water, and straw) ?

OR are water tubs just meant for cube cakes?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: laughingdog]
    #27862569 - 07/14/22 02:23 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Im sure it would suffice. Its a saturated environment.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: bdzsmkr365247]
    #27862615 - 07/14/22 03:01 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I feel like FAE would be an issue with Pans. Never done it I'm planning on making a JCM for myself. Everything I've fruited thus far has been cakes dunked rolled in verm then plopped in a watertub. I Throw something in there to elevate the cakes out of the water and let them go! Again I'm no expert but that's the idea in my head anyhow.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: P.Nowhere]
    #27863831 - 07/15/22 03:02 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

So having the cakes on a glass rather than cookie rack is better becasue it prevents pins on the bottom? This is why we dont cover the bottom with coir?

Is the coir's purpose nutrition? Does not coveirng the bottom reduce the myc's nutrition?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Solil8quy] * 1
    #27863836 - 07/15/22 03:07 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

The coir is for moisture and environment. Yup don't coir the bottom unless you want a pinset on all sides.:mushroom2:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: cozmyc]
    #27863855 - 07/15/22 03:25 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I think the dub tub method may be allowing to much FAE. I have closed off the opening a bit by squaring up the top container. The first set of cakes are pinning but the none coir cased ones are a tad blue from drying . I have a heavy most this morning and the cakes that had no pins now have a few on them. Is it safe after the first flush to sink them and put coir on them or just dunk them. Also do I dunk the coir cakes after the flush?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: bdzsmkr365247]
    #27864039 - 07/15/22 07:11 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Thanks, as I tohught :smile:

And no idea mate

I was goign to try both verm and coir to comapre but I have 3 different strains and not sure which is which in the cakes, however I was told it doesnt make a difference?? Is that true??


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Solil8quy] * 2
    #27865232 - 07/16/22 06:58 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Came home to pins today:mushroom2: Unmodified water tub with perlite as foundation. My next cakes I'm rolling in coir!



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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: cozmyc]
    #27878359 - 07/26/22 07:06 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

howd it go?

I just failed abysmally to get any verm to stick to my cakes and am depressed.


I searched, the onlky solution I could find was to sugest leaing the cakes buried in the verm for a day for the myc to bond with it. Is this safe?


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Solil8quy] * 1
    #27878388 - 07/26/22 07:30 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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howd it go?

I just failed abysmally to get any verm to stick to my cakes and am depressed.


I searched, the onlky solution I could find was to sugest leaing the cakes buried in the verm for a day for the myc to bond with it. Is this safe?



Mine worked well, but my next round will be cased in coir. It is ok to leave you cakes in the verm to stick. Once we birth cakes they are def never sterile again. :mushroom2:


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: cozmyc]
    #27879453 - 07/27/22 04:14 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

ANy idea how much water to add to coir? is it the same amount as when we make shoeboxes? Just under field capacity??


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