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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] 1
#27719605 - 04/03/22 03:25 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Fruiting inside Zip Lock Bags is another extremely simple method for fruiting cakes that cake growers should investigate
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27719607 - 04/03/22 03:29 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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After a few days with introduced FAE, ive got a couple cute lil pinsets!!! im so excited, this tek was perfect for a first timer i think.

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Shiloh]
#27719618 - 04/03/22 03:38 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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There we go  Whenever you see a few healthy looking pins popping up within a reasonable time frame you can be sure that many more are on their way and will start to show within days. Nicely done grower
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Mychunt4206911 said: Thanks for the advice and yes that makes sense however I have already birthed one cake so I’ll pause that till I get at least six ready. It’s hard to contain the excitement at this stage and want to get fruits soon as I have been trying and failing different methods since December. These cakes come from a couple varieties of spore syringe they are gt, Ecuador, b+. Here’s one of the Ecuador jars that’s a bit slower.

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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#27722152 - 04/05/22 02:29 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Hey mateja I'm going to put a few cakes in water tub per your advice. I'll be sure to share my progress with this thread. One question do you bring coir casing to field capacity? How long in water for second dunk? Thanks
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: wild_aussie] 1
#27722832 - 04/06/22 04:19 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Here’s the progress on my first cake that was birthed. It’s been four days. I opened the tub up to introduce fresh air bout 12hrs ago. 

Got some more being dunked right now.

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wild_aussie said: Hey mateja I'm going to put a few cakes in water tub per your advice. I'll be sure to share my progress with this thread. One question do you bring coir casing to field capacity? How long in water for second dunk? Thanks
I coat the cakes in hydrated coir, and if the coir doesn't stick easily to the cakes then I add some more water to it until it's more manageable to work with. And for second dunk I go for 6-12h. 
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Mychunt4206911 said: Here’s the progress on my first cake that was birthed. It’s been four days. I opened the tub up to introduce fresh air bout 12hrs ago. 


That's how I want my cakes to look on the day I increase FAE  Could you please post an update after you've applied the surface conditions? 
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Mychunt4206911 said: Here’s the progress on my first cake that was birthed. It’s been four days. I opened the tub up to introduce fresh air bout 12hrs ago. 

Got some more being dunked right now.

Close up

your cake looks perfect!! wow. i am curious too to see how it develops
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] 1
#27722843 - 04/06/22 04:54 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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This this surface as of right now.
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: chris77]
#27723051 - 04/06/22 09:31 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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@surface
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Shiloh]
#27724863 - 04/07/22 06:18 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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So I have 4 cakes in a water tub they have been there 48 hours so far. Thanks to your explanation and pics I know exactly what the surface conditions should look like and why. I think I put the coir on a little thick. Mycelium is starting to poke through nicely though so maybe another day or 2 before I introduce fae. One of my jmf cakes is already pinning.


This one was a bit of a casualty. It fell into the water when I set it in the tub. Didn't have any coir left so it's a mishmash of coir and verm. Note to self get a grate of some kind.

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After a few days with introduced FAE, ive got a couple cute lil pinsets!!! im so excited, this tek was perfect for a first timer i think.


I agree 100% this should be the first timers fc. Especially with how mateja explains how the coir should look and shows great pics of surface conditions. I did my first grow in a RR style sgfc was not a beginner fc IMHO. THANKS MATEJA because of this thread I truly understand what the surface conditions on a cake should be! (Probably the same conditions for all grows)
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: wild_aussie]
#27725207 - 04/08/22 03:17 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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2 and 1/2 days in the water tub I have my first pin.

Also this is the cake I first questioned about that had a pin in the jar. This cake was birthed a day after the first one so it spent one day less in the incubation station.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: wild_aussie] 1
#27725217 - 04/08/22 03:44 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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wild_aussie said: sgfc was not a beginner fc IMHO. because of this thread I truly understand what the surface conditions on a cake should be
You summed it up pretty good, those that advocate the sgfc don't explain what you're really doing and why you're doing it they just say "spray a few times a day" or they say "spray when it looks dry" but this doesn't mean anything to someone that doesn't understand what they're doing, it only makes sense for those that have experience with fruiting mushrooms of for a few ones that intuitively just get it from the get go but it's rare. A beginners FC must be beginner friendly and that's that.
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Yes, identical for all grows, once you learn to fruit cakes you'll know how to fruit anything
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27726574 - 04/09/22 12:46 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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So 3 of my cakes are past pinning and are now growing fruit. I have a 3 point hypothesis of why this happened. 1.) It was my first time using coir as a casing and I put it on kinda thick so there's that. 2.) I wasn't prepared for this method so I just used what I had which is huge especially with only 4 cakes and it's like 96qt or something ridiculous like that so any time I even crack the lid to mist lots of fresh air would pour in this was twice a day. 3.). The lid on the tub doesnt fit snug it fits more like a shoebox lid and has handle latches. It does seal even a little on the long sides the box sides bow inwards so leaves about a 1/4inch gap for 14 Inches on each long side. So this is my thinking on this please any advice or comments are welcomed. As always thanks for your time and knowledge Here are pics of my ridiculously big tub

Here are the pics of the cakes that started fruiting when I was still trying to get the mycelium to take over coir. Like I said I think to thick of coir and fae

This one fell of jar as soon as I put it in the chamber some coir stuck but had to fill the bare spots with verm

I truly think that all noobs should roll cakes in coir not verm. As a noob myself this was the first time I could see my surface conditions compared to the pics of proper surface conditions. With verm it was kind of a guess job because it's harder to see the drops. And the Roger rabbit sgfc not the way for any beginner to use as first fc. Now I'm not saying rr is wrong ( I don't have the audacity or the stones to do that) with over 40 years of mycology he has officially hit OG mycologist status in my book,. It's just hard to control climates and conditions with so many holes especially first timers who are in a sense winging it. Thanks mateja
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27728089 - 04/09/22 09:47 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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To add I think using coir as a casing even for cakes is great for the noobs because you can see the moisture and little drops and if it's a little dry there is a color change like it has its own warning to mist beacon
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja]
#27728130 - 04/09/22 10:24 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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This water tub and coir can't beat it. I put these cakes in on April 5 and today is April 9 they don't look like they are covered in frosting like Mateja but I'm super pumped. This cake is still colonizing and the only one not fruiting yet.
 Here are the other three that are fruiting

. Thanks mateja
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: wild_aussie]
#27728946 - 04/10/22 02:15 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Looking good aussie  And the pinsets will improve as soon as the surface conditions improve and each you make surface conditions you will only get better and better at it and you'll see the results in terms of fruit formation. Also I don't think either RR was wrong about anything its just that this way is simpler and you get to learn surface conditions at the same time so that's like a bonus hihi and no need to thank me so much, praise the water tub all you want I just copied the mechanisms of a Shoebox bulk grow anyway
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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateja] 1
#27729595 - 04/10/22 10:09 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Ya I tend to get overly excited especially when my time and effort start to go well. Look today.


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Re: Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: wild_aussie]
#27729782 - 04/11/22 03:23 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Very nice wild! Clusterfuckyeah!
I think my tub might get a bit too much fae as I was misting the walls twice a day because evaporation seemed fast. I don’t know if this is the cause of my caps splitting or the explosive growth overnight. Either way these are getting picked and dehydrated very soon.

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