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Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China 1
#26600250 - 04/14/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/nhs-coronavirus-app-memo-discussed-giving-ministers-power-to-de-anonymise-users
>A draft government memo explaining how the NHS contact-tracing app could stem the spread of the coronavirus said ministers might be given the ability to order “de-anonymisation” to identify people from their smartphones, the Guardian can reveal.
>Produced in March, the memo explained how an NHS app could work, using Bluetooth LE, a standard feature that runs constantly and automatically on all mobile devices, to take “soundings” from other nearby phones through the day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_Low_Energy#Security
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Bluetooth LE comes with very low, and in many cases broken security. BTLE or Bluetooth Smart, is a new modulation mode and link layer packet format targeting low powered devices and is found in recent high-end smart phones, sports devices, sensors, and will soon appear in many medical devices. Unfortunately the security implementation is broken with the encryption of any Bluetooth LE Energy link easily being rendered useless. This flaw in security can allow any device nearby to eavesdrop on Bluetooth Low Energy conversations. This includes packets being intercepted and reassembled into connection streams, as well as injection attacks.[42]
Bluetooth LE has been suggested as the basis of an app for tracing contacts of people during the Covid pandemic of 2020, silently tracking other phones which come within BT LE range of a person's phone, allowing those who have been in sustained proximity with a possibly infected person to be notified without identifying the person. However, a draft government memo said that ministers might be given the ability to identify people from their mobile phones, which has been criticised as a potential security breach.
>Google and Apple announced an unprecedented collaboration to provide the back-end technology that will enable governments to introduce contact-tracing apps that run on both iPhones and Android phones
So its going to be hardware very soon...
You want freedom back? just give total control of everything to the government.
This effectively allows the gov to control every person with a phone. They can listen in, they can track you, they can turn off your ability to pay for goods or move freely. Thats where this is going.
This is very bad folks.
Google and apple both on board for letting the gov have 100% control over you via the phone. They can just switch you off electronically.
Exactly what Rockefella proposed for humanity years ago.
I can't see any way to stop it.
THE NWO JUST CHECKMATED US.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth] 5
#26600307 - 04/14/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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To live in fear is to be a slave. And there is no prison stronger then your own mind.
Why worry about what the government does its what you do that counts Stop living in fear of being discovered instead be proud of who you are.
Poor boy always in fear of them, when there really is only us.
Smoking a joint enjoying life while the paranoid cower in fear you gotta love Karma!
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: rider420]
#26600327 - 04/14/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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plus one rider.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26600342 - 04/14/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah man enjoy life. : )
I'm still happy. ( :

I want to be this mini mint man.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: watermelon mon] 1
#26600361 - 04/14/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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When I started looking into this I couldn't see any conection with 5g but now its obvious!
its not that the 5g is capable of destroying your health ITS about the fact they want to access your phones bluetooth le with 5g - so there is a link!!!!
Thats why all the cencorshjip in the media over the 5g link right now.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: rider420]
#26600365 - 04/14/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know that bQuote:
rider420 said: To live in fear is to be a slave. And there is no prison stronger then your own mind.
Well yeah we all know that my friend we are in a lockdown.
I'm not in fear - I am pointing out what has becomke very obvious to me about what thisis all really about. Its so obvious now.
I mean google and apple just announced they are gonna hardware backdoor you and allow gov total access to your phone and thus track and control every aspect of your life?
Seems like a pretty big one to me we should have a think about eh or just ignore it?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth] 1
#26600367 - 04/14/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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This whole thing, for me, comes under the heading of 'I'll cross that bridge when I get to it'.
Something like this wouldn't happen without HUGE resistance, not least from myself.
In the meantime, I refuse to pollute my mind with worries about 'what if'.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26600378 - 04/14/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You're failing to notice its already happened....
We just got check mate.
I don't think you've actually read all what I've posted or let it sync in yet...
You not getting out of this now, they'be bent us over the barrel and are about to penetrate and theres no way i can see of stopping it.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26600381 - 04/14/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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..."hardware backdoor you"...
It's already happened to me friend, and I liked it!
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26600385 - 04/14/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I'm glad you are happy to bend over and be shafted by the powers that be.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: tyrannicalrex] 3
#26600393 - 04/14/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Throw your phone in the bin... problem solved for the meantime?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26600411 - 04/14/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: Well I'm glad you are happy to bend over and be shafted by the powers that be your husband.

No, I get it, there's some people that rule this planet,and there's not one single fucking thing YOU or anyone can do about it, so play the game as much as you want to get in a comfy place to your liking. It's all you can do.
Try to live up to your name.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth] 1
#26600417 - 04/14/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: You're failing to notice its already happened....
We just got check mate.
Right. And I care about this.. why?
I'm not taking the piss BTW mate. I simply fail to see how this changes my life or what anyone can possibility do about it, if anything at all.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26600422 - 04/14/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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edited: Nevermind.
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<-- Clicky Clicky
Edited by ShroomerInTheRye (04/14/20 12:53 PM)
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
#26600437 - 04/14/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dammit, I wanted to see that!
Did you get edited by China?
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26600462 - 04/14/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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HappySloth said: You're failing to notice its already happened....
We just got check mate.
Right. And I care about this.. why?
I'm not taking the piss BTW mate. I simply fail to see how this changes my life or what anyone can possibility do about it, if anything at all.
You should look into a guy named Edward Snowden and watch a few of his interviews. It may change your ‘whatever dude’ outlook..
It’s the croc you don’t see that gets you..
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Amanita86]
#26600474 - 04/14/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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And in the seven years since Snowden, how has life changed in such ways that I need to pollute my mind with concern about some new electronic shit they're doing?
Cause from where I stand, my life is way, way better now than it was seven years ago.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26600537 - 04/14/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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We can’t know where we’d be if Snowden had not done what he did.
I get this weird feeling sometimes that the Shroomery has been taken over by govt shills..
You can’t see ANY possible problems that could come from this? None, not even if you use your imagination really, really hard?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Amanita86] 1
#26600567 - 04/14/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've had a similar feeling before. I'm surprised this thread is allowed in the pub. Usually the pub is only for government approved facts.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: NewAccount] 1
#26600581 - 04/14/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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NewAccount said: Throw your phone in the bin... problem solved for the meantime?
still have not owned a smart phone in my life time think there is all sorts of neat factors to having a palm-held computer but like to keep my computer nerdery in my house and go out and enjoy the outside world without distraction
but yeah, the interesting part to me is how the proliferation of cell phones itself stemmed from an attitude of fear before they held the appeal of apps, people were getting really into texting as a "side-benefit" of having a phone in case of emergencies
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26600587 - 04/14/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Life goes on either way.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: larry.fisherman] 1
#26600588 - 04/14/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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thats why I ordered the GNU/Linux phone fuck IOS and Android
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Amanita86] 3
#26600599 - 04/14/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: You can’t see ANY possible problems that could come from this? None, not even if you use your imagination really, really hard?
Years of meditation have taught me to give little credence to the rambling thoughts that go on in my head about the future.
Observed, over a long period of time, they start to look very much like torment, in the guise of contemplation.
IMO, that's just what they are. I see no reason to be concerned until I actually need to be.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26600661 - 04/14/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Frog on the stove and whatnot, you know? There is a definite feel with these things that the water is constantly getting hotter.. because it is.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Amanita86]
#26600672 - 04/14/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey look man, I'm not arguing that we're not fucking repressed. That we don't, essentially, have owners, and that very few managed to actually slip the net and live free. That we're not born into a world where the only guarantees are death and taxes. Some things, over the course of history, get better, and some things get worse, and all we can hope is that we stand and fight together when the time comes to do so.
I'm just saying, why worry about it in the meantime? Unless you have some grand solution bubbling up in that big 'ol brain, what are you doing here other than playing 'misery loves company'?
Think Think, Prepare Prepare? But for what? And how? And how does doing so make any difference in a meaningful way, other than to detract from inner peace?
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26600690 - 04/14/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It’s good to be aware. Awareness opens the door to potential options..
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26600694 - 04/14/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do you put on your motorcycle helmet only when you're moments away from crashing? "I can feel it happening" you say as you go in to a Matrix-style bullettime, gracefully floating through the air as the Mission Impossible theme plays. Because that's how you get prepared. No sometimes a little stress is sensible. People want to know when the bike is gonna slip. That's why people buy survival gear and learn survival skills, they stock up on food. It's why you buy too much bait when you want to go fishing or bring your own beer when you go to your buddy's house. No one wants to be left feeling stupid. And honestly, if there ever is a time when that time to do something is now, we will know because of the folks who obsessed. Why? Because the change will be swift and brutal, and once it happens it'll only be harder to change it. I love the head in the sand thing as much as the next guy, I love when I can call a theory stupid and know that's the right answer, but the tinfoil hat army is starting to look pretty legitimate as time goes on.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: larry.fisherman] 1
#26600705 - 04/14/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Let me make it clear that I absolutely am NOT trying to suggest anyone else do what I do, or follow my chosen path.
However I maintain my dissenting viewpoint that there is no real benefit (for me) in all of that shit. I'll survive, until I don't, when I'll be dead. Whatever makes us happy right? I prefer to go with the flow and I'll take the disasters as they come. I find it more challenging, and more enjoyable, this way.
Perhaps some will enjoy your way of thinking, perhaps some will enjoy mine. C'est la vie.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 2
#26600745 - 04/14/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Already, for a long time, government agencies have been able to triangulate your location, monitor your metadata and use your cellphone as a listening device. If they know which one it is, of course. Nothing new happening here, just whether or not to use it en masse to prevent the collapse of the health care system in the UK, as unlike the US it is publicly funded.
The problem with Orwellian dystopian dreams where they do this to everyone at once is that people will fuck with any given system just because they can. From both within and without.
China is leading the world in this type of mass monitoring, information restriction and social engineering. When that shit implodes (which it obviously will in time) they will take the rest of us down economically anyways. We'll have to make our own cheap shit, yet no one will be able to do it with an artificially undervalued currency. It'll fuck us all far worse than the current "Chinese virus". Yet even as we know it is coming we still refuse to do anything about it.
And people are seriously suddenly concerned that their phones can watch them go from home, to work, to the shop and back again. Ironic really.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26600753 - 04/14/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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C'est was la vie
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: cannabinated]
#26601965 - 04/15/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The security implications of this for individuals and businesses are staggering. I guess as a computer hacker / security researcher its more powerful understanding to me.
I realise people don't care about thewir freedoms being taken from them but I'm surprised people here are stating they simply don't care.
Its generally not a good idea to let someone position themselves in a way that they can totally fuck your life over. Who would wish to live that way? You could be dominated by the state or a hacker.
This is a real game changer. If you know anything about computer security then you will understand that the 5g coupled with Apple and Googles new "virus app" is a backdoor that allows the state and any determined individual hacker access to your phone the same as if they were using it directly as you.
Even worse it actually allows more control than you have.
If our phones are to contain our passports to freedom because of this virusa app then the state and any determined hacker now has the ability to control any individuals freedom. Not only that but they are tracked and located 24/7 - thus they have effectively been microchipped.
The next stage is clear - once cash has gone and all finances are on the phone then its total domination of individuals.
The secuirty implications of all this for individuals abd businesses are staggering.
Your health, finances and freedom are all on the line. Once this is in those are now controled by the state and open to hackers. This will cause considerable problems for individuals and businesses in the coming years.
I'm looking into what new businesses will emerge from this as its goiung to be a new sector of security and pen testers etc etc all required. Business are going to need to protect themselves.
Laws are goingto need to be written. We need to find some way of proving wether the individual actually commited the crime or if it was planted byu the state or a hacker this line now becomes very very flimsy - big big trouble ahead for every aspect of life.
Theres so much to think about.
And to the comment about living up to my name please stop suggesting that I cannot be happy and pay attention to whats going on around me, thats rediculous. My happiness is not dependant upon not studying whats going on around me.
I'm aware that happiness comes from peace of mind however I still choose to follow reality and study it and adapt to it and I need this information to protwect my security of my health and freedom via the phone should I soon be in a position where its required in order to regain freedom of movement - which is where this all seems to be headed....
Edited by HappySloth (04/15/20 02:44 AM)
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26602270 - 04/15/20 07:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: Its generally not a good idea to let someone position themselves in a way that they can totally fuck your life over. Who would wish to live that way? You could be dominated by the state or a hacker.
OK so what can we actually do about it?
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26602277 - 04/15/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, I certainly didn't mean to hurt your feelings or cause any negativity. I do try to alleviate the negatives I see in here with a bit of humor and sometimes it doesn't come through as such online. My apologies. I do see that this thing that is happening could have serious implications. I appreciate your info/input. If "they" were to try and control people don't you think it has already been in place for a long time? Even before cell phones and the net?
Hey there JSB!
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 2
#26602282 - 04/15/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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HappySloth said: Its generally not a good idea to let someone position themselves in a way that they can totally fuck your life over. Who would wish to live that way? You could be dominated by the state or a hacker.
OK so what can we actually do about it?
am personally kind of interested whether the government is going to give me a free phone to participate in some sort of tracking mandate
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26602323 - 04/15/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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HappySloth said: Its generally not a good idea to let someone position themselves in a way that they can totally fuck your life over. Who would wish to live that way? You could be dominated by the state or a hacker.
OK so what can we actually do about it?
At this stage spread the information because this is what stops tyranny - the more we allow the more we are dominated by those who seek to control us - the more we stand up and say we know what you are trying to do the more they recede.
Theres 2 forces at play here. 1 is freedom and the other is tyranny.
its a balancing act.
Their power only comes from the masses becoming subservient.
If the majority awakens to whats happening and pushes back then they receed.
This game has gone on through all human history.
I know people don't believe me yet - but you will as you watch this progress.
The next steps as i see it are
- Force the backdoor on the phone as google and apple announced they plan - Allow people freedom to travel again IF they have the app - Make vaccinations compulasory and the app will state who and who doesn't - Social compliance will force everyone to take the vaccine
After this then the tip toe will continue
- removal of cash because its dirty and will transfer viruses (and also allows them to control)
Ultimately the individuals health, travel and finances are under electronic control of the state
This isn't my plan, this is what they are telling us they want to do to us.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Tantrika]
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HappySloth said: Its generally not a good idea to let someone position themselves in a way that they can totally fuck your life over. Who would wish to live that way? You could be dominated by the state or a hacker.
OK so what can we actually do about it?
am personally kind of interested whether the government is going to give me a free phone to participate in some sort of tracking mandate
Well they are already handing out free money?
You may need to prove you are vacine compliant in order to travel.
I hope I'm wrong honestly. I hope I'm completely wrong.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26602342 - 04/15/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Please direct me to the places you are finding this info.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: NewAccount]
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NewAccount said: Throw your phone in the bin... problem solved for the meantime?
I heard, and this may just be a rumor, that you can leave your home and just not bring your phone with you. I heard you can turn them off and everything. People acting like this would be some ankle bracelet on parole shit.
Keeping the infected home so everyone else can go out is more reasonable then the situation now where we all have to stay in. NSA already watching everyone anyway. Might as well make it all in the open.
I'm also fine with the opposite, like a digital certificate on your phone that shows you are healthy or vaccinated or negative, and you have to show it to buy anything, or get in the bar. If you are fine with the current lockdown is kinda silly to be all "muh privacy" over this shit.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: viraldrome] 1
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Yep, if a person has an SS card (pun?), they have no privacy, period.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26602437 - 04/15/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: If the majority awakens to whats happening and pushes back then they receed.
This game has gone on through all human history.
Right, and when was the last time that 'the majority awakened and pushed back'?
I'm all for it, but I'm also for being realistic, and realistically, how would one go about inciting the majority to do something?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Remember “Overgrow the government”? That grassroots movement gained some foothold..
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Amanita86]
#26602517 - 04/15/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's just weed though. If there is an elite power in control, you, me, or anyone will NEVER know the truth or be able to back them down from an agenda. It's way too powerful if it's true.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: viraldrome]
#26602635 - 04/15/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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NSA already watching everyone anyway. Might as well make it all in the open.
yeah right, may as well bend over and spread my asshole
heres my wallet
heres my arm vaccinate me
i am your slave
I will suck you off
HOW ABOUT YOU STAND THE FUCK UP?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: viraldrome]
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viraldrome said: I heard, and this may just be a rumor, that you can leave your home and just not bring your phone with you..
You want lockdown to end? Prove you don't have the virus.
We are not going to be able to work or travel without PROVING WE ARE COMPLIANT TO VACCINATION and the rest...
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
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In the interdependent globalized world of the modern era, that can be crippled by a microscopic pathogen, it’s not that bad of an idea or measure, if it ends up being true....with all things are considered.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26602708 - 04/15/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: HOW ABOUT YOU STAND THE FUCK UP?
Is that what you're doing with this thread? I had pictured you in more of a sitting position as you wrote this...
Jokes aside, this kind of fatalism:
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HappySloth said: heres my wallet
heres my arm vaccinate me
i am your slave
I will suck you off
Says a lot about your maturity in dealing with this. The world isn't black and white and the ends of the freedom/slavery spectrum are places very few reside; at least in our western culture.
I think you fail to consider that most of us will rise if it came to a needle being forced into our body. Enough will not take that lying down.
I get this is a time of much conspiracy, and much deception and corruption, but a cool head is all we need.
Spreading the fears when one has no plan to address them I do not agree with.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
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I bet it would be hella shocking how many people lined up for a randomly peddled shot that offers safety from all your concerns. Think of how many people munch down random pills. The soccer mom sector I would bet would take the shot without much question..
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Amanita86]
#26602727 - 04/15/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: The soccer mom sector I would bet would take the shot without much question..
Oh for sure, huge swathes of the population would take I don't doubt. However nobody in my social circle (and it's a pretty large circle) would take that.
There would be plenty enough people that would fight it, is my point.
Additional electronic monitoring of devices doth not equate to an eventual removal of money and having substances forced into ones body as the only outcome, is also my other point.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26602729 - 04/15/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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"I get this is a time of much conspiracy, and much deception and corruption, but a cool head is all we need.
Spreading the fears when one has no plan to address them I do not agree with".
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
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HappySloth said: Its generally not a good idea to let someone position themselves in a way that they can totally fuck your life over. Who would wish to live that way? You could be dominated by the state or a hacker.
OK so what can we actually do about it?
am personally kind of interested whether the government is going to give me a free phone to participate in some sort of tracking mandate
Well they are already handing out free money?
You may need to prove you are vacine compliant in order to travel.
I hope I'm wrong honestly. I hope I'm completely wrong.
Too poor to qualify for the money hand out; passing me by
Why would a sensible person not be vaccine compliant tho? Pretty sure there are other vaccinations a responsible traveller keeps up to date depending on where they plan to visit
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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I think you fail to consider that most of us will rise if it came to a needle being forced into our body
You are going to take the shot once all the the normies around you who are BEGGING for the vaccination have it and the gov says that you can no longer work or move without your passport (phone) proving you are vaccine compliant.
None of your friends will thats great, the rest of the planets got it and you can't do anything without it.
You will fall in line like the rest of us.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Tantrika]
#26603155 - 04/15/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why would a sensible person not be vaccine compliant tho?
Exactly, I don't know but we should tell jpokeshopbeard
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26603158 - 04/15/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: You will fall in line like the rest of us.
OK, so if that's the only future you can see why bother even starting this thread?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26603163 - 04/15/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why did you bother playing devils advocate?
Don't play tit for tat with me. Deal with the facts.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26603169 - 04/15/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: This whole thing, for me, comes under the heading of 'I'll cross that bridge when I get to it'.
Something like this wouldn't happen without HUGE resistance, not least from myself.
In the meantime, I refuse to pollute my mind with worries about 'what if'.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26603174 - 04/15/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why would a sensible person not be vaccine compliant tho?
Exactly, I don't know but we should tell jpokeshopbeard
At a guess, Jokeshop has kept a few vaccines up to date as it is since he has travelled internationally to a variety of locations over the past 5-10 years
so is the argument that nothing is going to change for people like him or is the argument supposed to be that the Covid vaccine is going to inject nanomachines into all of us that synergize with our phones to trace our locations
just really not comprehending the connection between consumer phone systems and vaccination or why consumer phone companies have been so empowered by the immense purchasing power of people upgrading every phone edition
have not put a new piece into my computer for several years, despite hardware advancements meaning new games have graphical features my current setup can't handle but a new phone comes out and everyone tosses their old phone in the bin and buys up the new device
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26603176 - 04/15/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: Why did you bother playing devils advocate?
Because:
1. I'm stuck at home without much to do. 2. I don't like seeing people saying 'worry about this!' when they offer no solution - like we aint all god enough on our plates already. 3. It's fun.
Where are you from Slothman? Have you travelled much in your time?
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#26603209 - 04/15/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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2. I don't like seeing people saying 'worry about this!' when they offer no solution
Wait...now are you trying to tell me that sitting around on the shroomery and drowning in our tears doesn't actually make a difference in the world?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Niffla]
#26603216 - 04/15/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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i might just downgrade back to a flip-phone to go out of the house, if we're ever allowed.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Amanita86]
#26603221 - 04/15/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Remember “Overgrow the government”? That grassroots movement gained some foothold..
yeah now our government sells me the shit, taxed out the ass, that they put me in a jail cell over once (literally)
Canada
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
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Canada remains a better country than most, I'd like to think. I don't intend to move anything soon.
The last 4 years completely eliminated my interest in moving to the USA
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: RebeccaBlack]
#26603239 - 04/15/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Canada... we promise more than 1% of our land is hospitable to human life.
Or Canada, at least we aren't Greenland.
I jest, I prefer healthy food but poutine is quite good.
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Niffla said: Wait...now are you trying to tell me that sitting around on the shroomery and drowning in our tears doesn't actually make a difference in the world?
LOL. Is it mental masturbation or flagellation, I'm not sure?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: InfiniteDreams]
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InfiniteDreams said: Canada... we promise more than 1% of our land is hospitable to human life.
Or Canada, at least we aren't Greenland.
I jest, I prefer healthy food but poutine is quite good.
Give global warming and population growth some times and Canada will have prime land to offer.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: RebeccaBlack]
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/excesswintermortalityinenglandandwales/201415provisionaland201314final
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An estimated 43,900 excess winter deaths occurred in England and Wales in 2014/15; the highest number since 1999/00, with 27% more people dying in the winter months compared with the non-winter months
The majority of deaths occurred among people aged 75 and over; there were an estimated 36,300 excess winter deaths in this age group in 2014/15, compared with 7,700 in people aged under 75
There were more excess winter deaths in females than in males in 2014/15, as in previous years. Male excess winter deaths increased from 7,210 to 18,400, and female deaths from 10,250 to 25,500 between 2013/14 and 2014/15
Respiratory diseases were the underlying cause of death in more than a third of all excess winter deaths in 2014/15
So far this "pandemic" has estimated to of killed 14k
If this is not hype in order to further their agenda I would be surprised. Every thing is indicatimng a hoax.
The proofs in the pudding though,
If everyone takes this app and allows their gov's to take control of their health, freedom and finances via the phone all in the name of this "pandemic" that less people have died of than the regular flu each year THEN I believe we can say this was clearly all a dupe.
The general public right now is BEGGING for this app to be installed and to be vaccinated. The fear of this MEME has worked.
Social compliance will foirce the rest of us to get it because EVERYONE ELSE AROUND YPOU WILL BE SAYING ITS OK BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE IT and once the majority is on board (which they already are as the conscent has been manufactured now) the rest of us will HAVE TOO.
Check mate.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26607265 - 04/17/20 05:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Where do you live?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: The Blind Ass]
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On earth at the mo.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth] 2
#26607299 - 04/17/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: ... If everyone takes this app and allows their gov's to take control of their health, freedom and finances via the phone...
so don't handle your finances via the phone? shop in cash; it amazes me if you can find places that don't take cash still find places that don't take interac 

if your complaint is that everyone is hooked on convenience, you missed that boat a good 10 years ago
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HappySloth said: ... The general public right now is BEGGING for this app to be installed and to be vaccinated. The fear of this MEME has worked.
Social compliance will foirce the rest of us to get it...
Good. You shouldn't be moving around society infecting vulnerable people who potentially can't be vaccinated because your unvaccinated ass has been frightened by the meme of government control
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HappySloth said: ... Check mate.
Queen to your king
you've been compliant and complicit in all this shit so far it's too late to complain now, they already came and chased off the rest of us
you get a shiny new phone app because you've been installing all the other ones that let you control your finances and shit and I get to fall further between the cracks as a lack of a smart phone in the modern world already means not getting to qualify for things like free coffee tokens at Tim Hortons or free sub tokens at Subway
Woe to the Green Wizard in the Technocracy
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: The Blind Ass]
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The Blind Ass said: Where do you live?
In fear?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Not in fear no but not in ignorance either pretending me and mymates won't do it so we'll be ok...
How rediculous.
How will you use cash if they move us to a cashless society? I stated that was down the line...
I can't be bothered to keep on talking here because I'm not sure if you are all just trying to take the piss by attacjking me personally or you just completely ignorant and not reading the world news about whats going on.
EITHER WAY I WILL BUMP THIS IN 6 MONTHS AND IF I'M WRONG THEN YOU CAN CONTINUE YOUR BULLSHIT AD HOM ATTACKS ON ME.
THATS FINE BECAUSE I'D PREFER TO BE WRONG ON THIS.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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The Blind Ass said: Where do you live?
In fear?
YOU CAN'T STOP HERE! THIS IS BAT COUNTRY!
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HappySloth said: How will you use cash if they move us to a cashless society? I stated that was down the line...
If 'they' move us to a cashless society in six months I'll send you one hundred quids worth of bitcoins to an account of your choosing.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth] 1
#26607369 - 04/17/20 07:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: ... How will you use cash if they move us to a cashless society? I stated that was down the line... ...
Debit was supposed to be the move to cashless society it didn't work out
Do not doubt "they" will eventually find a way to move society to cashless but being that smart phones are more expensive to distribute through society with no additional controls being placed on the money supply (over those available in a society where people use a plastic card to trade in stored currency) it does not seem significantly more likely -- and if smart phones are the new vector of social control instead of attempts at microchipping that broadens the gap between haves and have nots as those who refuse to be chipped will have to find ways to function in society without being plugged into the matrix but doesn't prevent me from growing my own food and bartering with my neighbours
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HappySloth said: ... I can't be bothered to keep on talking here because I'm not sure if you are all just trying to take the piss by attacjking me personally or you just completely ignorant and not reading the world news about whats going on. ...
seem to have been more aware of what is going on for longer than you have there was a point years ago where there began marketing for a device that makes socialisation more convenient (including a simple swipe left or right to set up a sex date) but with a chance of eating my face
and looked around at people in the black market, and saw them getting their faces eaten and went "you know, maybe a traceable, tappable device in my pocket just isn't the life for me"
now you are telling me the device is going to be allowed to eat more faces because more members of society have adopted it for the convenience it provides and people seem to suddenly be up in arms going "well I didn't suspect it would ever eat MY face!"

am not saying it is your individual fault that we move towards a cashless society with tracking computers in everyones pocket just that you have gotten to the party late, and it seems like your integration with the face munching machine has you worried you can't move technologically backwards for your own safety now
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Tantrika]
#26607379 - 04/17/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I already stated the cashless society is FURTYHER down the line - it can't be implemented at this stage... stop focusing on that for now as its not the next step YET
YOU'RE ALL TRYING TO SHOOT THER MESSANGER AND i'M NOT INTERESTED IN PETTY SQUABBLE.
i'M INTERESTED IN will the public accept this app on their phones and the vaccine on the basis of this fear meme.
Thats the facts so lets see - the proofs in the pudding.
Now stop trying to get me to do your research and start looking yourself.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26607403 - 04/17/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If everything is moved to cashless, you won’t need cash. 
It used to be barter, then human moved onto currency - Representatively defined set values based on fluctuating/fixed market values in a system of balance(Monetization).
So cash..ie a cloth-linen-paper product representing value , being switched for something else is nothing to fear, and has nothing to do with ignorance. Every adjustment or movement of our representative currency ...from a shell, to coins, to gold/metals and dollars(etc), to paperless or strict numerical/computerized is nothing new...and each movement in history had its pros and cons, and yet the world moves on.
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Edited by The Blind Ass (04/17/20 07:46 AM)
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth] 2
#26607405 - 04/17/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: I already stated the cashless society is FURTYHER down the line - it can't be implemented at this stage... stop focusing on that for now as its not the next step YET ...
Yet it has been in the works longer without successful execution and now you are proposing they will instead implement an even more strict and overwhelming measure with more success in a shorter time frame
hope you comprehend why, for people who have been following this longer than you who seem to have done more research, your concerns seem a little out of touch with the scope of what can and will be implemented
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HappySloth said: ... i'M INTERESTED IN will the public accept this app on their phones and the vaccine on the basis of this fear meme.
Thats the facts so lets see - the proofs in the pudding. ...
What are you claiming are "the facts" here? You stated you are interested in the theoretical implication that people will download the interesting new app the day it comes out
of course this shit will be bigger than Pokémon Go, people who don't know what a Pikachu is know what a Viral Disease is
will it have a lasting impact of adoption after the novelty wears off, or will people delete it en masse by the end of the first week? that is an area where you are arguably more informed than me but my speculation is it retention will mainly be a function of how appealing and informative the user interface is made
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HappySloth said: ... YOU'RE ALL TRYING TO SHOOT THER MESSANGER AND i'M NOT INTERESTED IN PETTY SQUABBLE. ...
No one is attempting to shoot the messenger but if you wish to serve in the role of the messenger, expect to be pursued for clarification and details on the message you are delivering
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26607465 - 04/17/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HappySloth said: YOU'RE ALL TRYING TO SHOOT THER MESSANGER AND i'M NOT INTERESTED IN PETTY SQUABBLE.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex ?
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: RebeccaBlack]
#26607602 - 04/17/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Daijo said: i might just downgrade back to a flip-phone to go out of the house, if we're ever allowed.
Flip phone is still location detected using cell tower triangulation.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: PatrickKn]
#26607620 - 04/17/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Revolution anyone?
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26607627 - 04/17/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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HappySloth said: YOU'RE ALL TRYING TO SHOOT THER MESSANGER AND i'M NOT INTERESTED IN PETTY SQUABBLE.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex ?
No just can't be bothered to respond to people playing petty games.
I'm not anything, I'm no messiah, I know nothing that isn't in the public domain.
This is all in the mainstream news.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/16/nhs-in-standoff-with-apple-and-google-over-coronavirus-tracing
You guys wanna pick me apart, nothing I can do about that it happens every post I make here.
I once posted a music video and because the singer was gay I was attacked and called a fag. Its absurd. My sexuailty is irrelevant to the music I listen to. It doesn't matter if I'm gay or not.
My point is thats just whatyou guys do.
try to get one over on people who post so you feel superior in your ego's. I'm not interested in it.
I'm not engaging it anymore. Bye.
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Re: Chinese Virus turns the Whole Planet into China [Re: HappySloth]
#26607630 - 04/17/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'll join your revolution
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