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Humidifier in monotube
    #26599663 - 04/14/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Isn't this an optimal solution / idea? Having a humidifier that flow both humidity and air in to the monotube? I mean, then you get both high humidity and fresh air exange at the same time, all the time? At the same time as the air and the abundance of humidity go out through the other holes, thus creating a stream of new humidity with lots of fresh air? I mean mushrooms likes a lot of oxygen right? But if you FAE too much then you lose RH. But on this, no RH disappears while receiving massive FAE.



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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: shroomening]
    #26599668 - 04/14/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Unnecessary usage of electricity. We all like fresh air, but that doesn't mean we have any desire to stand in strong winds.


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: poisoned]
    #26599677 - 04/14/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Unnecessary usage of electricity. We all like fresh air, but that doesn't mean we have any desire to stand in strong winds.




Yeah, but I have it switched on all the time anyway for my home to have higher humidity because the air is so dry here during the winter. So I mean then why not just let it take a swing through the monotube before it reaches the room hehe?

Shouldn't this have more effect on the mushrooms? Now that pins have arrived and the mushrooms are starting to grow? I read that mushrooms, for example, suck in water from the air around them to grow. Shouldn´t this be perfect then?


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: poisoned]
    #26599680 - 04/14/20 07:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Unnecessary usage of electricity. We all like fresh air, but that doesn't mean we have any desire to stand in strong winds.




And with regard to "strong winds", you can set it at the lowest level, then the "winds" gets pretty soft.


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: shroomening]
    #26599683 - 04/14/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It was just a figure of speech. Like, we like food, we like water, we like fresh air. But we only need enough, once past certain threshold it usually becomes unpleasant.


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: poisoned]
    #26599718 - 04/14/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It was just a figure of speech. Like, we like food, we like water, we like fresh air. But we only need enough, once past certain threshold it usually becomes unpleasant.




Yeah that is true. But look at my mushrooms, the cap cracked. First the monotube was to wet and needed FAE. Then I changed the polyfill and gave it more FAE and fanned 2-3 times a day. The substate was still had small water droppets on it, yet it cracked. So i figured that maybe this way with the humidyfier would safe it? Because then atleast they will get enough of both FAE and humidity.

What do you think about that?



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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: shroomening]
    #26599786 - 04/14/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You'll be messing with it all the time trying to adjust humidity and likely ruin your surface. It can be done but takes a lot of babysitting. Anyone that has a greenhouse will tell you they're very far from "set and forget" and require a lot of attention but are helpful for exotics. Cubes have a near optimal environment in monotubes/shoeboxes.


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: Grimsweeper] * 1
    #26599791 - 04/14/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Monotube = 1 tube


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: shroomening]
    #26599798 - 04/14/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeah that is true. But look at my mushrooms, the cap cracked. First the monotube was to wet and needed FAE. Then I changed the polyfill and gave it more FAE and fanned 2-3 times a day. The substate was still had small water droppets on it, yet it cracked. So i figured that maybe this way with the humidyfier would safe it? Because then atleast they will get enough of both FAE and humidity.

What do you think about that?






Rapid growth of fruits can also cause caps to split. That pic looks perfectly fine to me. If it was drying out from conditions it'd look more like a piece of leather.


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26599801 - 04/14/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Too high rh will kill evaporation and your pinset, but I guess if it’s already pins go for it.

Maybe try something like a pans fruiting chamber, have the fog come on for a few minutes every 20 mins or so.


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26599821 - 04/14/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You'll be messing with it all the time trying to adjust humidity and likely ruin your surface. It can be done but takes a lot of babysitting. Anyone that has a greenhouse will tell you they're very far from "set and forget" and require a lot of attention but are helpful for exotics. Cubes have a near optimal environment in monotubes/shoeboxes.




I understand, but that's why I thought it might be smart to leave all 5 other holes open so that the humidifier's current goes in and then out through the other holes, thus not building any higher RH than the current constantly creates? Whose current I assume is close to 90% -100% because the air it flows out holds moisture? Or am I thinking wrong about it?

Then it shouldn't get any more wet in there (which I suppose you mean as a risk factor that can destroy the substance) right?

I thought I could use this solution on this monotube where the mushrooms are midway in its growth, so they maybe get a boost to grow a little extra last half?

Then maybe do the same with the other monotube when it is midway also?


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: Morbility]
    #26599826 - 04/14/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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shroomening said:
Yeah that is true. But look at my mushrooms, the cap cracked. First the monotube was to wet and needed FAE. Then I changed the polyfill and gave it more FAE and fanned 2-3 times a day. The substate was still had small water droppets on it, yet it cracked. So i figured that maybe this way with the humidyfier would safe it? Because then atleast they will get enough of both FAE and humidity.

What do you think about that?






Rapid growth of fruits can also cause caps to split. That pic looks perfectly fine to me. If it was drying out from conditions it'd look more like a piece of leather.




Hmm, I think some of them look a bit like a piece of leather, kind of flaky in color?


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: A.k.a]
    #26599831 - 04/14/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Too high rh will kill evaporation and your pinset, but I guess if it’s already pins go for it.

Maybe try something like a pans fruiting chamber, have the fog come on for a few minutes every 20 mins or so.




Yeah exactly bro, I also think that because the mushrooms are already growing - so they might benefit from the fact that the air around them they draw water from to grow is optimal in their RH, now that I already have pins.

I'll check out the pans fc


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: shroomening]
    #26599849 - 04/14/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Doing this is kinda like running a window AC in a room that has centralized HVAC.


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: shevanel]
    #26599892 - 04/14/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Doing this is kinda like running a window AC in a room that has centralized HVAC.




Haha, come on, a little advantageous it must be? I mean, I did not manage to adjust the FAE before it, as the monotube initially had skinny mushrooms with fuzzy feets and needed more air - but then got too much air and seemed to dry out the mushrooms and crack. At least they should now get both optimal RH and optimal FAE? Right? :laugh:


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: shroomening]
    #26599900 - 04/14/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It could help and I’m all for trying it out to compare, but the whole deal with monos is once you take the time to dial them in you’re pretty much done forever and just wait for shrooms.

You’ll have to do the same process with the fogger too.


Sounds like you went too far to one side, then too far the other way, so that just leaves you with the Goldilocks zone. You’re almost through the dialing process.


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26599917 - 04/14/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

the problem with using a fogger is you don't want consistently super high humidity. once the air is so humid, it impedes evaporation from occurring off the substrate, which is what you want. just because mushrooms like humidity doesnt mean they want to be bathed in it.


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: A.k.a]
    #26599966 - 04/14/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It could help and I’m all for trying it out to compare, but the whole deal with monos is once you take the time to dial them in you’re pretty much done forever and just wait for shrooms.

You’ll have to do the same process with the fogger too.


Sounds like you went too far to one side, then too far the other way, so that just leaves you with the Goldilocks zone. You’re almost through the dialing process.




True A.k.a..


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26599971 - 04/14/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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the problem with using a fogger is you don't want consistently super high humidity. once the air is so humid, it impedes evaporation from occurring off the substrate, which is what you want. just because mushrooms like humidity doesnt mean they want to be bathed in it.




Yeah, actually it looks like the water drops on the substate have gotten bigger now that I've been running the humidifier for like an hour or so. So it might be overkill to use it. I´ll put the polyfill back and leave it instead.


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Re: Humidifier in monotube [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26599976 - 04/14/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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the problem with using a fogger is you don't want consistently super high humidity. once the air is so humid, it impedes evaporation from occurring off the substrate, which is what you want. just because mushrooms like humidity doesnt mean they want to be bathed in it.




Man, I would love to get big harvests like you and A.k.a got on the pictures.

This is how the monotube look atm:



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