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Re: Space Between Shroom Trips [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #26609392 - 04/18/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don’t know, PrimalSoup, I’m particularly,stumped now. You see, last night, after a two week lay off to remove tolerance, I made lemon tea from 3.5g of my dried Mazatapec.

Time line is:

1st flush, 1kg. 400g made into tea and frozen. 600g dried in dehydrator and stored in bags in fridge. 55g made into fresh tea and drunk.

That first trip from 55g (which I calculated to be 3.1g dry) was amazing.

Two weeks later I had some ice cubes, but let them thaw and ended up with globules that didn’t make me trip.

The following week tried ice cubes from second flush, mixed in a pina colada smoothie. Took almost 4g. Nothing.

So last night 3.5g from dried first flush, which I knew was not that weak. This was the weakest trip yet, with no visuals, no waves, but I did get some nice sounding music, not heavenly, but nice.

I’m thinking whether to dose again tonight with some old GT or B+, to rule out some paranoid thoughts I’m having like my brain has changed and I can no longer trip!

Yep, pretty confused now.


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Re: Space Between Shroom Trips [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26610072 - 04/18/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That's weird. I noticed some of my Mazatepaca grows were very weak. It was either quite potent or pretty weak, both ends of the spectrum. I feel with Mazatepeca, you definitely wanna try cloning to find that right fruit with strong potency.


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Re: Space Between Shroom Trips [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26610153 - 04/18/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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That's weird. I noticed some of my Mazatepaca grows were very weak. It was either quite potent or pretty weak, both ends of the spectrum. I feel with Mazatepeca, you definitely wanna try cloning to find that right fruit with strong potency.



Yeah, cheers, LC. I’ve got 3rd generation agar plates going from spore. I’ve got 2x LC from first multi spore syringe. And I’ve now got 2x LC of 3rd generation agar. My oats and rye have turned up. And I’ve ordered 2x spore syringe. PES Amazonian, and 1x random. I’m going to get them on agar while I have two more Mazatapec grows going. One from multi spore LC and one from 3rd gen LC.

Next going to powder up all the dried ,azatapec, and try an alcohol extraction with that. Apparently, you can re-dose and it strengthens the trip within 10 minutes; so even if they are weak mushrooms, the extract will do the job given enough 1ml drops :thumbup:

And going to wait a week; but fortunately I’ve got two tubs of GT, Ecuador, and some B+ in the freezer that’s still sound :dancer:


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Re: Space Between Shroom Trips [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26610877 - 04/18/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Two weeks later I had some ice cubes, but let them thaw and ended up with globules that didn’t make me trip.






Sorry for off-topic but I'm not sure my question is worth a new thread.

So I made myself a pretty nice Mushroom tea and stored it in the freezer.

I told my friends about it, and they seemed eager to give it a try on the weekend.

So I expected in any case. I let the whole bottle thaw before and stored it in the fridge for the time, meanwhile they got afraid and pulled back.
Now Its back in the freezer

So are you telling me it looses potency doing this?


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Re: Space Between Shroom Trips [Re: Notker]
    #26610908 - 04/18/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No it doesn't.  The only thing that happens to tea that gets thawed and refrozen like that IME is that it becomes increasingly vile.  Doesn't seem to affect the potency though.


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Re: Space Between Shroom Trips [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26610911 - 04/18/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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DJ Ed said:
I don’t know, PrimalSoup, I’m particularly,stumped now. You see, last night, after a two week lay off to remove tolerance, I made lemon tea from 3.5g of my dried Mazatapec.

Time line is:

1st flush, 1kg. 400g made into tea and frozen. 600g dried in dehydrator and stored in bags in fridge. 55g made into fresh tea and drunk.

That first trip from 55g (which I calculated to be 3.1g dry) was amazing.

Two weeks later I had some ice cubes, but let them thaw and ended up with globules that didn’t make me trip.

The following week tried ice cubes from second flush, mixed in a pina colada smoothie. Took almost 4g. Nothing.

So last night 3.5g from dried first flush, which I knew was not that weak. This was the weakest trip yet, with no visuals, no waves, but I did get some nice sounding music, not heavenly, but nice.

I’m thinking whether to dose again tonight with some old GT or B+, to rule out some paranoid thoughts I’m having like my brain has changed and I can no longer trip!

Yep, pretty confused now.




Well following the Holmesian approach:

You had one good trip with some of the fruits made into tea.  Unless you homogenized everything before making that tea it would seem you lucked into more potent fruits for that one batch somehow.  Sucks but I've never had my brain change so that I couldn't trip, only mushrooms of varying potency...


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Re: Space Between Shroom Trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26611970 - 04/19/20 02:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You can think all sorts of weird thoughts, when you’re not tripping, but you’re tripping! I’m now convinced that the Mazatapec were generally weak; in fact, most people report they tend to be weaker than a typical cubensis. But 3.5g to basically get nothing is worrying, even for multi-spore. My previous harvest was from Golden Teacher. The fruits looked amazing and healthy, but were WEAK beyond belief. Threw the whole flush into the bin after 2 failed trips....

So I’m going to hedge my bets. 5kg oats and 25kg rye grain turned up yesterday! I have 3rd generation agar plates from the Mazatapec going; I have 2x Liquid Culture jars from the original multi-spore Mazatapec. And I now have 2x jars LC from the 3rd generation agar.

So I’m going to try a grow with MS LC, and a grow with 3rd gen LC. And in parallel, I have 2 MS spore syringes on their way this week: PES Amazonian, and 1x random. I’m going to get them to agar while the 2x Mazatapec grows are going. I will get some potent flushes to store as tea ice cubes......

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DJ Ed


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Re: Space Between Shroom Trips [Re: Notker]
    #26611973 - 04/19/20 02:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Two weeks later I had some ice cubes, but let them thaw and ended up with globules that didn’t make me trip.






Sorry for off-topic but I'm not sure my question is worth a new thread.

So I made myself a pretty nice Mushroom tea and stored it in the freezer.

I told my friends about it, and they seemed eager to give it a try on the weekend.

So I expected in any case. I let the whole bottle thaw before and stored it in the fridge for the time, meanwhile they got afraid and pulled back.
Now Its back in the freezer

So are you telling me it looses potency doing this?




That's badass. I bet its still potent. I don't see why not as long as its still chilled. But yeah, best not to thaw it and refreeze it. Might have a bad effect, not totally sure yet.


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Re: Space Between Shroom Trips [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26613765 - 04/19/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Such a variable question. I've had care-free summers where tripping twice a week for a few months was completely appropriate. Wouldn't take those summers back. On the other hand, I've had times like this where I couldn't imagine even tripping once a month lol.


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