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My new chickens
    #2659839 - 05/10/04 04:41 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)




These ^ are 1 cock and 2 hens, silver duckwing old english game fowl.
I love em, after seeing doc's birds, I had to try a smaller faster
breed, and these just turned up as a trade :grin: for a couple
of ugly old birds i had.



This is another pair ^ of the same breed, but the female, though shy
in this picture, is a sort of lavander and brown. got in the same trade.



also got this oldish asil hen, which i shall cross with
my shamo cockrell.



And here are my most recent hatch, a right mixed bunch of asils
cornish game and shamos.


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Re: My new chickens [Re: Loki]
    #2659912 - 05/10/04 05:06 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

Do you eat them? :undecided:


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Re: My new chickens [Re: deff]
    #2660100 - 05/10/04 05:50 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

I  was G a n j a . click that and see :grin:


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Re: My new chickens [Re: Loki]
    #2660187 - 05/10/04 06:06 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

1)This bird resembles what I call a "Sweater Grey"(breed founded by F.B.'Sweater'Mcguiness).

2)This looks like a "Mugg"hen,She will produce dark feathered fowl,with that black face(I love that)
Mugg and Brown Red hens sport that black face-the only two breeds.

3)Sweater Grey Stag(looks like), but those black eyes in  My American fowl usually mean that somewhere they have Mugg or Brown Red mixed in,that is a dominant feature in those dark fowl.

I had a hen that looked just like that and she was worth her wait in gold-I crossed her onto some "Allen "Roundheads,the resulting chicks were beautiful!
How old is she BTW?

And as for the diddles-they are so cute at that age!I love watching them catch a bug and then chirp like crazy and then run like hell to get away from the rest.HaHaHa

Very nice birds,ever think about crossing the Grey and Blue Shamo's?
You might end up with a beatiful Blue bird.
like this one!




This is a 1/2 Brown Red,1/2 Black Jungle Fowl.
Notice the dark markings?black eyes,black beak,blue black legs , and dark feathers,dominate to these breeds.


I'm not trying to steal your post Loki,Just showing features :wink:
:cool: :thumbup:


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Re: My new chickens [Re: doc34]
    #2661679 - 05/11/04 03:07 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

Quote:

Grey and Blue Shamo's




I have a stag coming up, that is that very cross.
I'll try to get a picture of him today but he is in punk
feather faze :grin: so he isnt looking like a show
bird at the moment.

Please post anything you want to in this thread :thumbup:
I can never see too many of your birds :cool:


This breed,the duckwings "sweaters" are quite small arent
they, the one of the hens jumped out the box when i opened
it, and took about half an hour to catchin the garden lol. not
like shamos, who will not run from you, making them quite
easy to catch.
Does this breed need a roof on there encloser? Can they fly?
I'm betting they are good at escaping.

This morning there were two very high pitched new crows
heard from my garden :cool:


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Re: My new chickens [Re: doc34]
    #2661903 - 05/11/04 05:28 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)


Here is the other hen in a better light, real nice bird,
can you tell me anything abuot why she is so different
to the greyer hens? also, is it common for the hens to have
spurs? As I have never seen this on any of my other breeds.

This is the blue grey shamo stag, nice colours, and
he is just old enougth to tread a hen, so hopefully I
can breed from him soon. he is very under weight, and needs
a good feeding up, as i only just got him with 4 skanky looking
underfeed hens. Still, there in a better home now, so they
should beback on form after some antibiotics and a good feed.


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Re: My new chickens [Re: Loki]
    #2662061 - 05/11/04 08:10 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

pure Grey henVVVV


pure hatch henVVVVV


this is a Sid Taylor hen(black breed).notice the eyes?

the males from this breed are 100% jet Black!I'll post a pic later.

Pure sid Taylor stagVVVV

Notice the feather colors and the shape of the head?



Notice the breast feathers are blue on that stag?Just wait until he is in full plumeage,beautifull!


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Re: My new chickens [Re: Loki]
    #2662069 - 05/11/04 08:20 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)



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Re: My new chickens [Re: doc34]
    #2662089 - 05/11/04 08:40 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

So my brown headed hen is a hatch, or pretty simular, and the charcole
ones are closer to the grey, but pretty different still. The brown
headed hen has spurs, but the charcole ones do not, any idea about that?
so i might get a semi pure breed from the grey cocks and charcole hens, but from the brown headed hen i will get some kind of cross?

3 out of the 10 new birds i got yesterday have bad feet :/
One has an infected cut, and two have swollen toes
with nails missing, so im taking them to the vet this
afternoon to get them looked over. Any ideas what might cause that?
It doesnt look like incubator damage, more infectious :\
Questions questions questions lol.


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Re: My new chickens [Re: doc34]
    #2662098 - 05/11/04 08:44 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)


This is a nice bird , but I preffer the blue brested one :cool:


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Re: My new chickens [Re: Loki]
    #2662110 - 05/11/04 09:00 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

"So my brown headed hen is a hatch, or pretty simular, and the charcole ones are closer to the grey, but pretty different still."
I love those Grey's LOki.Those black eye's make them,im my opinion!
I would definately try to keep them pure.Do some linebreeding with them and you may get them purer,then cross their offspring.You are going to have some pretty chickens out of them!

I alway's keep those hens with spurs(especially on both legs)Those are the ones I mostly breed with.

"3 out of the 10 new birds i got yesterday have bad feet :/
One has an infected cut, and two have swollen toes
with nails missing, so im taking them to the vet this
afternoon to get them looked over. Any ideas what might cause that?
It doesnt look like incubator damage, more infectious :\
Questions questions questions lol. "

this is caused by keeping them penned up in cold weather(missing toes),frostbite!As for the cuts and infections-Tylan 50 1/2cc to each one.Any broadband antibiotic used for animals will work.Just dont give it to the ones you eat,unless you stop treatment 14 days prior to consumption.I would go even farther and say 30 days just to be safe.
You can save yourself a VET bill by just giving them any antibiotic(yes even the ones your doc prescribes you will work)
Chickens are tough buggers-It takes alot to kill one!
I have given mine just about every antibiotic I could find and I havent killed one yet,so they are safe to use.
Wipe the wounds with alcohol and put some triple antibiotic ointment on them,they will be fine!
You may have "bumblefoot",and if you do,well,it wont go away.Its common in the states,and as far as I know-no known cure.It doesnt hurt the chickens but they do look funny.But if it looks infectious,you may want to have it checked. :cool:

I really like those grey's(Duckwings)! :thumbup:


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Re: My new chickens [Re: doc34]
    #2662118 - 05/11/04 09:05 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

"This breed,the duckwings "sweaters" are quite small arent
they, the one of the hens jumped out the box when i opened
it, and took about half an hour to catchin the garden lol. not
like shamos, who will not run from you, making them quite
easy to catch.
Does this breed need a roof on there encloser? Can they fly?
I'm betting they are good at escaping."

All of the American Breeds are a standard 5 pounds in weight!Every now and then you get a whopper(5lb+)and a midget(-5lb's)but usually they stay right at or around 5 pounds.

Yes you have to put a roof on their pens!unless you want to chase them or climb tree's in the dark to catch them!(it could get quite dangerous,lol)


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Re: My new chickens [Re: doc34]
    #2662223 - 05/11/04 09:56 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

You guys ever hear of a buff warpington? My spelling might be way off.


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Re: My new chickens [Re: ]
    #2662234 - 05/11/04 10:01 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

you mean a "Buff Orpington",lol.

Yes I use them as natural brooders for my eggs!(hens)


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Re: My new chickens [Re: ]
    #2662246 - 05/11/04 10:06 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)



I think the chickens in geos pic might be buff-orpingtons or
something simular. I havent keep those, but I have had simular breeds.
good all round chickens, good for eggs and meat and good brooders (egg hatchers)



Thanks for the advice doc, this hen has both feet spured, I
dont have to much choice with the breeding lol, I have to of the same males, and two sorts of hens. So I'm going to put one male with 2 hens
(the charcoles) and the other male with the brown headed spured beauty :cool:

Getting ahold of antibiotics is harder in the uk i think, but i will try some farm supply shops this afternoon :thumbup:


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Re: My new chickens [Re: Loki]
    #2662263 - 05/11/04 10:17 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

I'm sure you know this Loki-but-selective breeding will get you the birds you want.look for the dominate traits in each strain,they are the ones that will keep showing up.Black is dominate(color),leg color,feather color,eyes,station,combs,etc,.etc,....

Farm supply stores should have them(not for chickens).Get the ones used for cattle or swine.Thats what I use.


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Re: My new chickens [Re: Loki]
    #2662266 - 05/11/04 10:20 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

Hey I was right. I got a couple of those Buff oprpington eggs incubating right now.


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Re: My new chickens [Re: doc34]
    #2662268 - 05/11/04 10:20 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

What do you do about worming them?
I'm wondering if the new shamos are under weight due to worms?
I'm sure I can get horse or cow antibiotics, so I'll got look in an hour.
I suppose injecting is the only way to ensure the correct dose :/

I'm quite new at this breeding lark, sort of finding way
as i go, so any advice is well excepted :cool:


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Re: My new chickens [Re: ]
    #2662270 - 05/11/04 10:21 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

Ah, good luck with them, nice calm birds.


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Re: My new chickens [Re: Loki]
    #2662284 - 05/11/04 10:27 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

There dad is an ass hole. Likes to think he is tuff. At our farm we just want them to run around. So I dont think the breeds you guys like are right for me.


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