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Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap
#26597385 - 04/13/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey all!
This is my first grow ever (P. Cyans). One pin grew way faster than the others, but I noticed immediately that it was deformed, with the gills massively unfurling. When I woke up this morning it had turned black and ejected tons of spores on the cake and perlite below.
Here is a picture I took moments before I removed it. I am currently drying it. Just curious what you guys think. Was it contaminated? Genetically deformed? Was this from me bruising the mycelium? Thanks!
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: loon333]
#26597434 - 04/13/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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sorry to break it to u but those are not cyans
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: jcm4620]
#26597465 - 04/13/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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What is it then? The aborts I picked from earlier in the grow have evident blue psilocin. Here is a photo of another healthier looking fella from the same terranium.
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: loon333]
#26597471 - 04/13/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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They just look like a variety of cubensis. Do you have any other pictures of the mutant guy?
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those r cubes 100% font take this the wrong way but it sounds like you need to do a lot of reading yet. but your at the rite place to do it. and at least your getting fruits so congrats. stick with it
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Gotcha. The grain spawn I was given to start out with must have been mislabeled.
Here is the mutant guy before he turned all black.
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: loon333]
#26597505 - 04/13/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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grain spawn?? those are not brf cakes???
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: jcm4620]
#26597624 - 04/13/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, they are brf cakes. But I started with a bag of grain spawn, which I now understand was mislabeled by the buddy who gave it to me.
Thanks for the help everyone! Learned a lot over the past couple months but still am working on basic identification haha.
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: jcm4620]
#26597636 - 04/13/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That’s a fairly common mutation or deformity. Nothing wrong at all.
Did you start these with a spore syringe labeled as Pan Cyan?
Those mixups happen and if that’s the case you’re actually lucky you got cubensis spores because pans wouldn’t have worked out well I imagine
Edit - saw your response above
I’m curious what process you used to create these cakes with grain spawn. Not trying to catch you up or anything I’m just wondering if you/ your buddy got some terminology mixed up.
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Happy to know it’s just a common deformity.
Not sure where the mix up happened, it was my buddy who colonized the spawn bag with a syringe and then handed it off to me to take things from there.
After the grain spawn fully colonized, I sprinkled grains onto several brf cakes I made. I also sprinkled grains in a monotub which I’m waiting on to colonize.
Thanks for any corrections in my terminology, it’ll help a lot as I continue asking q’s
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: loon333]
#26597783 - 04/13/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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wtf?? im confused you sprinkled grains onto brf cakes? lol how?? i mean if you made brf cakes youd have to pc or steam sterilize them but that would kill the mycelium if you mixed the grains in b4 hand. so are you saying you made brf cakes birthed them from the jars and then sprinkled grains onto them?? if thats the case an even bigger what the fuck but more importantly how the fuck did you even get fruits?? or do you mean you took pre made brf cakes opend them up and dumped in colonized grains at kinda a half ass g2g then closed the jars back up and let colonize. this is why using correct terms is important. at this point im just amazed you have anything at all wow plz dont take this the wrong way im sure im not the only 1 whos confused as shit here
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: jcm4620]
#26597913 - 04/13/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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1. Let grain spawn fully colonize 2. Prepared brf jars and sterilized in pc 3. Opened spawn bag and sprinkled grains into brf jars and into monotub 4. Closed brf jars and monotub and let colonize 5. Transferred colonized brf cakes to sgfc's
I hope that clears things up. I wasn't aware if this is an atypical method, but I thought that spreading grain spawn among cakes/monotub would increase overall yield, as well as give me more opportunities to avoid contamination.
In any case, I have a bunch of happy fruits, and am happily drying some that I just picked.
Edit--
I know the transfers are risky for contam, but I did so with the best sterilization technique I could manage. Seems to have worked for the cakes--we'll see about the monotub.
Edited by loon333 (04/13/20 12:26 PM)
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: jcm4620]
#26597928 - 04/13/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looking at the top in those pictures you can see the clumps of grain. What a strange twist to the brf saga.
Sterilized the brf cakes, then inoculated with colonized grain in a SAB maybe or got lucky dumping them in some other kind of way. They probably took a decent amount of time to colonize just from the top down but maybe the same as with a spore syringe.
Loon I’m glad it seems to have worked out but you should read up on some updated methods here. I think user Bodhisatta or similar name has links to all kinds of good stuff if you search his name.
If you can get set up with agar you can clone some of those mushrooms. And keep the line going. You can also take spore prints to make sure you can get more stuff going on your own.
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im actually shocked he got anything at all doing that lol but hey fruits are fruits rite
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: jcm4620]
#26597998 - 04/13/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's right, it took about two months for the grains to colonize down through the entire cakes. I see now that if I had the spore syringe, I could have went straight to inoculating the cakes.
Thanks for the reference to Bodhisatta. I'd be stoked to keep the line going and start practicing with agar/making my own syringes.
Wish I heard about shroomery earlier. The response rate here is incredible, and such an abundance of info. Happy things worked out this time around. Beginners luck I suppose.
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: loon333]
#26598013 - 04/13/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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😃 welcome to the shroomery 😃 the search bar in the upper right is your friend. and you can ask it anything and 99.9% of the time it will answer your questions for you. happy growing
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Re: Cyan Grow - Strange Looking Cap [Re: loon333]
#26598035 - 04/13/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you had come earlier and announced your intentions to inoculate the way you did people would have jumped all over you about how it would never work lol. But since you showed up with pics of some success which everyone loves, it was more of an amazed questioning.
It’s a real cool hobby and not very difficult once you absorb enough of the correct info. Many things can work but it’s a slow process so if you only have a single grow going it’s best to go with a known process so you don’t waste a month or more waiting, though that can still happen at any time so it’s good to have a few things going on.
I just came back myself after a few years away. Welcome 👋
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