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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26596897 - 04/12/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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There’s nothing wrong with taking 5g, or 20, or 2.

Not everyone is made for big trips, even if they make it out fine if it’s not helpful to them it will most likely just turn them off to what could’ve been a lifetime affair.

I can trip big, I learned by accident when I was a 12yo idiot and ate 8 sugar cubes at a party where everyone else was drinking and doing coke. I was up all night by myself discovering every trick in the book to stay sane and alive  :trippnballs:  some 21yo coke fiend assured me I’d be alright because he wanted $40 to bang some more powder :lol:

So I can do it, and I do, but not all the time. 5g is a big trip no matter how experienced you are and it isn’t always necessary. Sometimes you want a more relaxed trip to sip tequila and eat grapefruit and get your brain connected correctly for a month or so.

You may be alright but your assertion of a mandatory minimum is probably facist or some other kind of ist





Sipping tequila with mushrooms? Yea.. you fall under that category of abusing the mushrooms.. for one alcohol is a low vibration tool why would it mix with a high vibration tool? :shrug:

If you gave me a 3.5 to take with you id tell you to go ahead and eat the 7 to yourself.

A 3.5 is only going to have me sitting in the waiting room with inner dialogue for the next few hours and weak visuals- Unless it’s 3.5 of Azures the experience below 5 grams compared to 5 and above are night and day it’s not even worth being up for 6-8 hours on a underwhelming experience that makes you wish you could just go to sleep instead.


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: brindle foxx]
    #26597196 - 04/13/20 03:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, why don't you remove yourself from the forums already, as you said?

I'll take mushrooms however I please. And yeah, some beer will usually be involved. You should really reconsider what you're achieving with your trips if you suddenly think your way is the only way and that you're better than anyone else.


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? (moved) [Re: rezasmith]
    #26597239 - 04/13/20 05:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.

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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? (moved) [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26597372 - 04/13/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The Mushroom experience can be sacred. It can be scary. Or full of fun. Or delusion. And on and on.

The variance is unbelievable. How then, can we judge how others choose to consume them?

We shouldn’t.

The only exception is that people should do them in a way as to not put themselves and others in unnecessary danger (for example taking mega doses and speeding around a busy town of civilians).

Dear Brindle fox, I am glad you enjoy your mushrooms your way. I too like to use them, generally, for inner spiritual work. But on one trip they told me “stop making such rigorous outlines. You do not dictate the trip we do!”. That taught me how beautiful mushrooms are. And how playful they can be. Let all enjoy the sacred king and jester as they choose.

Also, I once read Asante post something along the line “Any fool can take a huge dose of mushrooms and trip. But it takes a master to take a small dose and go deep”. So I think the idea that only 5g and above is worthwhile and lower doses are useless is a little close minded. Each dose can be powerful with the right mindset. I took 0.5g a few weeks ago, what amounts to barely over a micro dose, and I had an incredibly powerful and cathartic experience.

So to each their own! Enjoy the beauty of mushrooms on your terms wether it be 1g or 10. Just stay safe everyone :heart:


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26597423 - 04/13/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Abusing the mushrooms you say? You think I’m some kind of natty light knuckle dragging mouth breather who’s thumbs point inward instead of forward while standing at rest? And when I find an extension cord in my oven (while heating my brewskis) I will loose my shit and lash out at the closest monotub?

I get what you’re saying in a way. But your style is what these modern people would call “virtue signaling” it’s not hip.

I drink a couple times a year literally, and sometimes it’s on a relaxing trip. Maybe infrequent use of alcohol raises the vibrations I don’t know. But tequila, grapefruit eaten like an orange, and cubes go together like lamb and tuna fish. As long as it’s an outdoor trip in the summertime.


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? (moved) [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26597475 - 04/13/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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The Mushroom experience can be sacred. It can be scary. Or full of fun. Or delusion. And on and on.

The variance is unbelievable. How then, can we judge how others choose to consume them?

We shouldn’t.

The only exception is that people should do them in a way as to not put themselves and others in unnecessary danger (for example taking mega doses and speeding around a busy town of civilians).

Dear Brindle fox, I am glad you enjoy your mushrooms your way. I too like to use them, generally, for inner spiritual work. But on one trip they told me “stop making such rigorous outlines. You do not dictate the trip we do!”. That taught me how beautiful mushrooms are. And how playful they can be. Let all enjoy the sacred king and jester as they choose.

Also, I once read Asante post something along the line “Any fool can take a huge dose of mushrooms and trip. But it takes a master to take a small dose and go deep”. So I think the idea that only 5g and above is worthwhile and lower doses are useless is a little close minded. Each dose can be powerful with the right mindset. I took 0.5g a few weeks ago, what amounts to barely over a micro dose, and I had an incredibly powerful and cathartic experience.

So to each their own! Enjoy the beauty of mushrooms on your terms wether it be 1g or 10. Just stay safe everyone :heart:



Hey I’ve taken that same small dose and had enjoyed a great time in nature as it rained and stopped and I laid in a creek yes it “enhanced” an experience that was already nice due to being outside. it seems still a waste if your intentions are to use the mushroom and mix it with other substances and other people. Being quiet with the mushroom is a way to listen and apply the lesson if there is one otherwise a time to slow down and reflect. I’m starting to think most of the replies are from people in their 20’s still so it makes sense for the mushroom to be just something to do on a friday with 5 other people yakkity yakkin. Everyone is thinking i’m acting uppity or better than others is truly a misconception and a typical response from people because they don’t like my straight forward approach or must feel attacked in some way. The 5G should be a baseline for anyone serious about the mushroom and should be increased after that 5-7-9G+


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: poisoned]
    #26597486 - 04/13/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude, why don't you remove yourself from the forums already, as you said?

I'll take mushrooms however I please. And yeah, some beer will usually be involved. You should really reconsider what you're achieving with your trips if you suddenly think your way is the only way and that you're better than anyone else.



Trolling you guys about removing myself if you knew that you couldn’t delete an account here you’d know this.  Yea you sound so cool and full of ego because of your ability to do what you please and let everyone know that you’ll do so. So cool of you to get buzzed on alcohol then eat mushrooms cause you want a good time or an escape. Find something else to do. Thankfully the mushrooms are very advanced and will block people from obtaining certain paths people like you and drunkards,murderers,moral crime committees, adulterers all get blocked from the true path.


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? (moved) [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26597522 - 04/13/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Socrateshroom said:
The Mushroom experience can be sacred. It can be scary. Or full of fun. Or delusion. And on and on.

The variance is unbelievable. How then, can we judge how others choose to consume them?

We shouldn’t.

The only exception is that people should do them in a way as to not put themselves and others in unnecessary danger (for example taking mega doses and speeding around a busy town of civilians).

Dear Brindle fox, I am glad you enjoy your mushrooms your way. I too like to use them, generally, for inner spiritual work. But on one trip they told me “stop making such rigorous outlines. You do not dictate the trip we do!”. That taught me how beautiful mushrooms are. And how playful they can be. Let all enjoy the sacred king and jester as they choose.

Also, I once read Asante post something along the line “Any fool can take a huge dose of mushrooms and trip. But it takes a master to take a small dose and go deep”. So I think the idea that only 5g and above is worthwhile and lower doses are useless is a little close minded. Each dose can be powerful with the right mindset. I took 0.5g a few weeks ago, what amounts to barely over a micro dose, and I had an incredibly powerful and cathartic experience.

So to each their own! Enjoy the beauty of mushrooms on your terms wether it be 1g or 10. Just stay safe everyone :heart:




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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26597533 - 04/13/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Who cares, eat that 40g dose and lose the ego.
You can reach that point if you're willing to,
not if you're a bad person or good person. This
stuff has the ability to completely change that.
I know people who get ripped on 1.5g.
5g dry had me thinking I was for sure gonna die,
the nausea and sick feeling I had was so strong.
Tea is the easiest and most comfortable.
The threshold for mushrooms from my experience is
pretty slim, and I have no problem eating 300 mics
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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: LREAM]
    #26597558 - 04/13/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

it’s obvious this is the wrong place for me to voice my opinion as there aren’t like minded others. So i’ll stick to just using the forums for reference. Let y’all figure out you o
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Who cares, eat that 40g dose and lose the ego.
You can reach that point if you're willing to,
not if you're a bad person or good person. This
stuff has the ability to completely change that.
I know people who get ripped on 1.5g.
5g dry had me thinking I was for sure gonna die,
the nausea and sick feeling I had was so strong.
Tea is the easiest and most comfortable.
The threshold for mushrooms from my experience is
pretty slim, and I have no problem eating 300 mics
of liquid.




Ripped? Again here is an example of what is wrong with folks and the mushrooms. Still missing the point here. 300 mics of what crystal and purity... you don’t know either right? And L is not on the same plane as the mushroom. One is synthesized and is relatable to playing a game offline while one connects to the internet for downloading and is ancient. Even doing 500-600 mics still I felt was not enough to achieve the depth with mushrooms sure the visuals and feelings and synesthesia were heavy but I don’t look at things from an aspect as doing it just to “trip”


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: brindle foxx]
    #26597584 - 04/13/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Trolling you guys about removing myself if you knew that you couldn’t delete an account here you’d know this.  Yea you sound so cool and full of ego because of your ability to do what you please and let everyone know that you’ll do so. So cool of you to get buzzed on alcohol then eat mushrooms cause you want a good time or an escape. Find something else to do. Thankfully the mushrooms are very advanced and will block people from obtaining certain paths people like you and drunkards,murderers,moral crime committees, adulterers all get blocked from the true path.




The only one full of ego here is you bud. I was thinking the same way when I was younger, that mushrooms should always be taken as some kind of holy sacrament and always in high doses. Over time, as I learned to accept the trip as it was given to me, smaller doses did way more to me than what the bigger doses used to do.

Oh, and I don't get buzzed on alcohol and then eat shrooms cause I want to escape. I'll usually have a beer or two during my trip, because I enjoy the taste.

The only one here that seems to be blocked from the true path of acceptance is you. Instead of focusing on yourself and what shrooms have to give to you, you're somehow obsessed with what others are doing in their lives. You have a long path ahead of you before you reach any kind of enlightenment you're trying to sell.


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: poisoned] * 2
    #26597640 - 04/13/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Brindle you need to drop the holier than thou act and let people do them. You don’t get to dictate how people should use mushrooms. They’re not as sacred as you make them out to be. They’re just as important to human life as the cacti, datura, cannabis, and the poppy. They either evolved with a changing planet or were put here by a higher consciousness and there is no proper way to use them. They’re here for us to use how we please and in a way that helps us. Opium is highly addictive but by your reasoning there’s no use for it, because it doesn’t provide the same experience as mushrooms....? Yet it is of the earth? Your running in circles because you want to believe that ingesting psychoactive mushrooms is different than smoking raw opium for the simple use of treating pain. Humans for years have used opium to treat physical pain and fungi and cacti for either mental pain or trying to commune with otherworldly beings. And the experience has only ever affected the user.

Point being you’re assigning FAR to much importance to fungus. And because of your ego you can’t believe that people can trip just for fun. Get the fuck over yourself :shrug:


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: brindle foxx] * 1
    #26597667 - 04/13/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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brindle foxx said:
it’s obvious this is the wrong place for me to voice my opinion as there aren’t like minded others. So i’ll stick to just using the forums for reference. Let y’all figure out you o”




With all due respect we value and listen to your opinion BUT some disagree with it, hence the discussion. I don’t mix mushrooms with anything. I don’t do them and watch T.V. Why? Because that’s not how I want to experience it. But if others want to who am I to judge? What do I know that they don’t? I am no better or worse than them, I just choose to use it my way and they theirs.

This is not the wrong place to voice your opinion and I value the discussion. This is, however, the wrong place to voice an opinion AND expect everyone to agree blindly. You seem very wise and experienced with the mushroom teacher but you also seem to be letting your ego get rustled when people don’t agree with you. Don’t take that as an insult, we all battle with our ego everyday (I know I for sure do).


EDIT: Also you mentioned there aren’t like minded others here. There are. But are you just looking for a group of people who share your view and no one to challenge it? Where’s the learning in an echo chamber? We NEED opposing viewpoints in the community.


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26597686 - 04/13/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

He’s one of those “the problem is obviously every other single person and not with me” people.

As long as it’s not bothering anybody else let people do their thing. What do you care.

For being a buzzword happy spiritual woke neohippy you seem to have done a lot of tripping with very little learning or self awareness.


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26597689 - 04/13/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

brindle foxx said:
it’s obvious this is the wrong place for me to voice my opinion as there aren’t like minded others. So i’ll stick to just using the forums for reference. Let y’all figure out you o”




With all due respect we value and listen to your opinion BUT some disagree with it, hence the discussion. I don’t mix mushrooms with anything. I don’t do them and watch T.V. Why? Because that’s not how I want to experience it. But if others want to who am I to judge? What do I know that they don’t? I am no better or worse than them, I just choose to use it my way and they theirs.

This is not the wrong place to voice your opinion and I value the discussion. This is, however, the wrong place to voice an opinion AND expect everyone to agree blindly. You seem very wise and experienced with the mushroom teacher but you also seem to be letting your ego get rustled when people don’t agree with you. Don’t take that as an insult, we all battle with our ego everyday (I know I for sure do).


EDIT: Also you mentioned there aren’t like minded others here. There are. But are you just looking for a group of people who share your view and no one to challenge it? Where’s the learning in an echo chamber? We NEED opposing viewpoints in the community.



Thank you for your input. I can agree yes coming off as telling others how to do something makes me seem egotistical and a dick but I’m also venting from real life experiences with people also I see straight up abusing/using for profit/disrespecting the mushroom. It’s to the point where I wouldn’t even share any with anyone I didn’t think for sure was using it to grow and treat as a tool. Another example shared some with a friend to have and they tell me they don’t know how much they ate they just kept eating them after eating all night and drinking liqour and shared with someone else they had come
Over  and that person ended up leaving by driving afterwards and they didn’t stop that person irresponsible on lots of levels for both thankfully noone was affected but it made me realize people are reckless if they aren’t disciplined or mature enough and when you do anything for profit the energy put out is one of worldy desire.

And let this be clear I haven’t tried to judge anyone in here but just like any art/hobby there are people who are very serious/purists  and will frown apon things and I completely feel like mixing beer/liqour with mushrooms-going to concert on mushrooms is disrespectful but can’t blame folks who don’t even respect themselves or their bodies.


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26597705 - 04/13/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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He’s one of those “the problem is obviously every other single person and not with me” people.

As long as it’s not bothering anybody else let people do their thing. What do you care.

For being a buzzword happy spiritual woke neohippy you seem to have done a lot of tripping with very little learning or self awareness.



You feel attacked so you will resonate that I’m on some ego trip when in reality I have tried to voice this opinion * void of ego

Look if you are gonna do 5G of mushrooms and go drive and go to a bar and drink and go home cool do your thing not bothering noone figure it out I guess :shrug:


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: brindle foxx]
    #26597732 - 04/13/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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brindle foxx said:
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Socrateshroom said:
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brindle foxx said:
it’s obvious this is the wrong place for me to voice my opinion as there aren’t like minded others. So i’ll stick to just using the forums for reference. Let y’all figure out you o”




With all due respect we value and listen to your opinion BUT some disagree with it, hence the discussion. I don’t mix mushrooms with anything. I don’t do them and watch T.V. Why? Because that’s not how I want to experience it. But if others want to who am I to judge? What do I know that they don’t? I am no better or worse than them, I just choose to use it my way and they theirs.

This is not the wrong place to voice your opinion and I value the discussion. This is, however, the wrong place to voice an opinion AND expect everyone to agree blindly. You seem very wise and experienced with the mushroom teacher but you also seem to be letting your ego get rustled when people don’t agree with you. Don’t take that as an insult, we all battle with our ego everyday (I know I for sure do).


EDIT: Also you mentioned there aren’t like minded others here. There are. But are you just looking for a group of people who share your view and no one to challenge it? Where’s the learning in an echo chamber? We NEED opposing viewpoints in the community.



Thank you for your input. I can agree yes coming off as telling others how to do something makes me seem egotistical and a dick but I’m also venting from real life experiences with people also I see straight up abusing/using for profit/disrespecting the mushroom. It’s to the point where I wouldn’t even share any with anyone I didn’t think for sure was using it to grow and treat as a tool. Another example shared some with a friend to have and they tell me they don’t know how much they ate they just kept eating them after eating all night and drinking liqour and shared with someone else they had come
Over  and that person ended up leaving by driving afterwards and they didn’t stop that person irresponsible on lots of levels for both thankfully noone was affected but it made me realize people are reckless if they aren’t disciplined or mature enough and when you do anything for profit the energy put out is one of worldy desire.

And let this be clear I haven’t tried to judge anyone in here but just like any art/hobby there are people who are very serious/purists  and will frown apon things and I completely feel like mixing beer/liqour with mushrooms-going to concert on mushrooms is disrespectful but can’t blame folks who don’t even respect themselves or their bodies.




So I totally agree with you here. Those are irresponsible users. Those are the type of people who will get black out drunk and race home putting people in danger.

The good news? Few of those type of people stick with mushroom use. Somewhere along the line they get their ass whooped by a trip they never expected and they’re off the stuff. Unfortunately, we can’t stop those people without also giving up the rest of our liberties. As they say, don’t let a few bad apples ruin the crop.

I also agree that there’s a lot of bad people who work with, sell, etc the mushroom. Just like there are evil ayahuaqueros (Probably spelled completely wrong), but that is the inevitable truth. We can try to educate the world so the good outweigh the bad but we can’t stop the bad peoples from existing.

I think you’ll find a lot more people on here, myself included, who agree with you a lot. But, I also don’t think there’s anything wrong if someone, in the comfort of their home, wants to eat some mushrooms, have a few beers and watch a movie. I see no harm in it and, how can I know that they aren’t getting as profound of a trip as I do in the silent darkness of my room when I trip? Profoundness is a funny thing. It comes to us not when we seek, but when we simply are.


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: Socrateshroom] * 1
    #26597750 - 04/13/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don’t feel attacked at all.

I’m saying you have a very rigid and oppressive mindset for someone claiming to be spiritually advanced.


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26597762 - 04/13/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Shrooms liquor and crack go really well together


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Re: [Heroic Dosage] 7g Lemon Juice or Raw? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26597763 - 04/13/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I don’t feel attacked at all.

I’m saying you have a very rigid and oppressive mindset for someone claiming to be spiritually advanced.



My apologies i’d never want anyone to feel or be oppressed or preach oppression. Like I said earlier I came out straight forward and possibly lazily written thinking which is a bad combination. The real moral of this story is Integration... using and no integrating is well ... a waste.


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