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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: blackdragon999]
    #26603946 - 04/15/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Make babies, OP!! It is the missing link.

Sounds like a terrible idea to most reasonable people... but it is a huge responsibility  and it is a fact that people get more satisfaction out of life by taking on long term challenges and bearing the burden of the additional responsibility for your clan.

Seriously. It is a huge task that would keep you going into old age.

I'm only assuming you don't have offspring because you didn't mention it in your post.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: MycQueen]
    #26603989 - 04/15/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I wasn't trying to be arrogant about it...but things like that have always been easy for me. I've watched so many people work for almost nothing until they fall apart, get replaced by younger workers and die with nothing. That fear definitely can carry you along way. Since I have always been socially awkward it was easy to focus more on things rather than people. But now I wish that I was poor...and that I had more friends.




I think most of us here are socially awkward IRL and have found a haven here at the Shroomery. You are most definitely not alone on that one.

You don't have to be poor, make some more friends and share your good fortune with them. One could argue that you are making more friends right here, right now.

Be a mentor or angel investor.

Use your gifts/talents to start a non-profit, web site, program or app with a free service to help the type of people you've had to watch fall apart with nothing. Then maybe get a marketing company to help you reach the folks that need help most.
Who were the type of folks that needed help, whether they were aware of it or not?
What did they all have in common, need, or were lacking?
Where could they go to get the help they needed?
When could they have used intervention or help?
How could they prevent this from happening?

We all have experiences and wisdom that can help each other - previous, current and coming generations. We just need to find a way to share it and have it be applied to each persons current situation. We all need help of some sort at some time, whether we want to admit it or not.
We need to help each other, even from a distance to make it through.




It may sound cold/selfish of me to say this but I really don't get much joy out of helping random people. I put all my love into my wife and my art. I like children between the hours of 10am and 5pm as long as they are outside and are not crying. Since we have not assembled any children of our own, we enjoy being an uncle/aunt. My life has been like a TV set that only gets 2 channels in concurrent cycles of about 1-3 years at a time.
  • Channel 1: Depression, hopelessness and fear with a strong desire to isolate myself and neglect my friends, family and responsibilities. Even though I would like to be close to them I feel completely unable. 
  • Channel 2: Anger and frustration accompanied with a seemly unlimited source of drive and determination. Animosity towards people outside of my immediate circle for no other reason besides that they exist, also a high amount of preservation,protectiveness and caring for people close to me.

   
I find that I am somewhere towards the end of my first cycle. Despite what you may think. "Angry" is my creative/destructive phase. If I was able to think positively and at the same time get anything done...I definitely would.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: Niffla]
    #26603998 - 04/15/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You would pretty much have to live Rambo style out in the woods if you want to avoid the methheads.




Ummm for 2 years plus I lived in Wyoming on a work transfer and not once did I have to Rambo it out with rural wandering rogue bloodthirsty meth heads

:canthelpbutlaugh:




Brokeback Mountain was filmed in Wyoming. Other than that, I don't know much about it really.




It's basically Montana but east of Montana. Right next to Montana. You grew up in Montana so you gotta know at least that much...:wink:




The shape of Montana makes it look like it has a face...so I guess that's pretty cool.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: Mudbrain]
    #26604007 - 04/15/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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If you were a painter, it would sound like you're having a bit of a block. You were saying you'd like to be a web designer, so I'd challenge you to making some websites, three or so a day, for two weeks. Maybe something with a minimum of three pages at least. Try different formats of website, different kinds. Try WordPress vs straight HTML/css vs Dreamweaver etc.

They could be on/of anything, and at first, yeah they'll be stupid as hell, things you throw together just to make the quota, but by the time you're in your second week doing this, your subconscious will have come forward to give you some better guidance on what you want/need right now.

I know it doesn't sound like much, but I swear when you overload your creativity with a "quality doesn't matter, only quantity" it frees your creative self from the pressure of being "good" or "worthwhile." The trick is to push quantity a to where it's almost un-doable; if you can make 3 websites a day no problem, then up the daily quota to where it puts enough pressure on you that you're having to push to meet that deadline.




Corporate america, one of the most misunderstood forms of therapy.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: susurrador]
    #26604072 - 04/15/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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tyrannicalrex said:
I'm glad to see you back. You're adding in here (not just this thread).:heart:



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susurrador said:
Make babies, OP!! It is the missing link.

Sounds like a terrible idea to most reasonable people... but it is a huge responsibility  and it is a fact that people get more satisfaction out of life by taking on long term challenges and bearing the burden of the additional responsibility for your clan.

Seriously. It is a huge task that would keep you going into old age.

I'm only assuming you don't have offspring because you didn't mention it in your post.




You would be correct in assuming that. Like I posted earlier...I probably make a better uncle than a dad. I'd be kind of a fake dad anyway because I'm rarely home. All that aside I've been disabled, and I like being disabled.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26604077 - 04/15/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm glad to see you back. You're adding in here (not just this thread).:heart:




I'm here in one capacity or another, thank you!


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: blackdragon999]
    #26604112 - 04/15/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I tried. It's the only answer I've come up with for myself to solve a similar issue.

I think as long as it is a cause that is bigger than yourself and has purpose and will continue after you die... it can scratch that itch.

I have a feeling it's about leaving a legacy because most people realize at some point that when they die there will be next to no evidence that we ever existed lost amongst a bunch of other scraps of evidence that other people existed.

Can be depressing and demoralizing.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26604127 - 04/15/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I am much more of an artist than an mathematician so I view most things I learn as a tool to create better art. Web development seems to provide a venue to express that. Pure programming is usually very technical and often monotonous so as someone who loves to create things it's more of a means rather than an end.




Math at its core is as pure as art.  It is not monotonous.  It is a failure of the education system in the way that mathematics is taught.

Pure math brings joy of the same kind as music or any visual art.




If I wake up dead, trapped inside the Mandelbrot set...I'll remember that you said that. I enjoy math like I enjoy mustard...very sparingly.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: susurrador]
    #26604198 - 04/15/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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susurrador said:
I tried. It's the only answer I've come up with for myself to solve a similar issue.

I think as long as it is a cause that is bigger than yourself and has purpose and will continue after you die... it can scratch that itch.

I have a feeling it's about leaving a legacy because most people realize at some point that when they die there will be next to no evidence that we ever existed lost amongst a bunch of other scraps of evidence that other people existed.

Can be depressing and demoralizing.




Thank you. When I think about it...I don't think I've ever had a desire to leave a legacy.

The only exception to that is if I could find a way to upload my consciousness and live forever in a super computer.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: blackdragon999]
    #26604200 - 04/15/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Haha, no, for real, InfiniteDreams is right: math is/can be beautiful and amazing! I had a professor blow my mind when he started talking about "other kinds" of math! When I learned there were things like graph theory, and... er... other things with names I didn't know, it blew my mind! I was so frustrated learning everything through the language of algebra, only to find a sort of poetry in geometry that teachers would keep hidden because "algebra is what every one uses."


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: blackdragon999]
    #26604213 - 04/15/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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blackdragon999 said:
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susurrador said:
I tried. It's the only answer I've come up with for myself to solve a similar issue.

I think as long as it is a cause that is bigger than yourself and has purpose and will continue after you die... it can scratch that itch.

I have a feeling it's about leaving a legacy because most people realize at some point that when they die there will be next to no evidence that we ever existed lost amongst a bunch of other scraps of evidence that other people existed.

Can be depressing and demoralizing.




Thank you. When I think about it...I don't think I've ever had a desire to leave a legacy.

The only exception to that is if I could find a way to upload my consciousness and live forever in a super computer.




I'm under the impression the desire to leave a legacy is the solution one eventually comes around to, to solve the "life and strife and everything is meaningless because one day I'll die" problem that accompanies conscious life and forward thinking.

At least in my case that seems to be about the size of it.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: Mudbrain]
    #26604252 - 04/15/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

ODweeds, if you could meet me irl, you'd see I'm the LEAST corporate American person you could meet!

It was required reading back in the day, but in the book "Art and Fear" by Bayles and Orland, there's a story that's told about a professor who did an experiment with his classes:

The ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality.

His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the “quantity” group: fifty pound of pots rated an “A”, forty pounds a “B”, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot – albeit a perfect one – to get an “A”.

Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work – and learning from their mistakes – the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay.


All my professors back in the day swore by this method, and it's gotten me through a lot of tough spots ever since, especially when I get stuck in my head trying "my best" and fearing that my best will never be enough. I can see how it can come off as corporate-speak, but I sincerely didn't mean it in any such way.

*Edited to add the author names to the book


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: Mudbrain]
    #26604415 - 04/15/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Mudbrain said:
ODweeds, if you could meet me irl, you'd see I'm the LEAST corporate American person you could meet!

It was required reading back in the day, but in the book "Art and Fear" by Bayles and Orland, there's a story that's told about a professor who did an experiment with his classes:

The ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality.

His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the “quantity” group: fifty pound of pots rated an “A”, forty pounds a “B”, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot – albeit a perfect one – to get an “A”.

Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work – and learning from their mistakes – the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay.


All my professors back in the day swore by this method, and it's gotten me through a lot of tough spots ever since, especially when I get stuck in my head trying "my best" and fearing that my best will never be enough. I can see how it can come off as corporate-speak, but I sincerely didn't mean it in any such way.

*Edited to add the author names to the book




I didn't mean it sarcastically; humorous, but only it the most honest & truthful way. Everyone is generally working towards finding their balance. For millions of people corporate america, like anything, truly is therapeutic for those with the right mindset.

Completely agree with the modus operandi. I can see it, or be it, but I can't be both.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: susurrador]
    #26605232 - 04/16/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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susurrador said:
I tried. It's the only answer I've come up with for myself to solve a similar issue.

I think as long as it is a cause that is bigger than yourself and has purpose and will continue after you die... it can scratch that itch.

I have a feeling it's about leaving a legacy because most people realize at some point that when they die there will be next to no evidence that we ever existed lost amongst a bunch of other scraps of evidence that other people existed.

Can be depressing and demoralizing.




Wow, the thought of someone being demoralized and depressed by not "leaving a legacy" or having to leave one to make ones life justified/important etc...is depressing to me. I wish you well sir! I personally find that since I've created some art in my lifetime that it will be passed down and around and people will enjoy that and wonder who that guy was that painted the work. I do not care about "leaving a legacy" and find it strange that that would drive people to have kids, always have, not just you here and now. Nursing is also giving me the sense that even though I don't know the friends family and relatives of the people I'm helping, they will tell of me and those people will know and pass down the story. IRDC though, I ask for nothing in return and that's the beauty of nursing for me.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26605274 - 04/16/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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tyrannicalrex said:
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susurrador said:
I tried. It's the only answer I've come up with for myself to solve a similar issue.

I think as long as it is a cause that is bigger than yourself and has purpose and will continue after you die... it can scratch that itch.

I have a feeling it's about leaving a legacy because most people realize at some point that when they die there will be next to no evidence that we ever existed lost amongst a bunch of other scraps of evidence that other people existed.

Can be depressing and demoralizing.




Wow, the thought of someone being demoralized and depressed by not "leaving a legacy" or having to leave one to make ones life justified/important etc...is depressing to me. I wish you well sir! I personally find that since I've created some art in my lifetime that it will be passed down and around and people will enjoy that and wonder who that guy was that painted the work. I do not care about "leaving a legacy" and find it strange that that would drive people to have kids, always have, not just you here and now. Nursing is also giving me the sense that even though I don't know the friends family and relatives of the people I'm helping, they will tell of me and those people will know and pass down the story. IRDC though, I ask for nothing in return and that's the beauty of nursing for me.




You just said you don't feel bad about not leaving a legacy because of your art.  Your art IS your legacy...


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: Babylon]
    #26605436 - 04/16/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I thought I stated that as well. Either way it's not something I'll worry and think about bringing me to a negative state of being. I'm all about sensation, the now, the moment. I have been planning these last years of my life my whole life and things are coming to fruition. I do worry about it all imploding, but I can plan on preventing that.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26605475 - 04/16/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If I have to die first in order to leave a legacy I'm pretty sure I won't care much about it when I'm gone. Better to focus on my life now than to eventually be forgotten in a cemetery.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: blackdragon999]
    #26605539 - 04/16/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, agreed.


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Re: Mid Life Crisis [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26605593 - 04/16/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Transience is beauty.


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