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Skinny and "fuzzy feets"
#26595872 - 04/12/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Zup brothers,
I need some advice, My first monotubes have started to grow now. But the mushrooms look skinny and appear to have "fuzzy feets". Is this because of too little FAE? Or too wet substrate? I remember my substate (coir + verm) was more wet than field capacity. Fortunately, they started to grow anyway.
What do you think is the reason they are skinny and have "fuzzy feets"?
And what can I do?
My monotubes has medium-tight polyfill in all 6 holes.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26595889 - 04/12/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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As far as I know, "fuzzy feet" are caused by lack of FAE, which causes the mycelium to "climb" in order to get more fresh air.
It's not harmful, but the mushrooms are telling you they need more fresh air.
However, I'm still very new in this hobby, so I would wait for some more experienced users to answer you.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: Farnaby1984]
#26595895 - 04/12/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have this problem right now as we speak, just lessen the amount of polyfil you're using in your tub and it should increase fae.
From further examination of your pics, indeed lack of FAE is the cause, your ventilating holes seem to be jam packed full of polyfil, and the condensation is a dead giveaway. Its okay to have condensation on your tub, however too much condensation is an indicator of improper FAE.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: mushhead]
#26595935 - 04/12/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Farnaby1984 said: As far as I know, "fuzzy feet" are caused by lack of FAE, which causes the mycelium to "climb" in order to get more fresh air.
It's not harmful, but the mushrooms are telling you they need more fresh air.
However, I'm still very new in this hobby, so I would wait for some more experienced users to answer you.
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mushhead said: I have this problem right now as we speak, just lessen the amount of polyfil you're using in your tub and it should increase fae.
From further examination of your pics, indeed lack of FAE is the cause, your ventilating holes seem to be jam packed full of polyfil, and the condensation is a dead giveaway. Its okay to have condensation on your tub, however too much condensation is an indicator of improper FAE.
Thanks brothers! And Mushhead you're probably right. I'll lessen the polyfill and hope it helps.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26595947 - 04/12/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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They dont look skinny due to highly restricted fae to me but if your sub is a little wet they will grow smaller. The fuzzy feet is def indicative of high humidity. You could stand to increase fae some.
Edited by shevanel (04/12/20 02:48 PM)
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shevanel]
#26595967 - 04/12/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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shevanel said: They dont look skinny due to highly restricted fae to me but if your sub is a little wet they will grow smaller. The fuzzy feet is def indicative of high humidity. You could stand to increase fae some.
Thanks shevanel. I loosened the polyfill a little.
How many grams of fresh do you think I will be able to harvest from this one?
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26595978 - 04/12/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Too early to tell but if the early bloomers are all youre getting and this was a "guess how many jelly beans" game then id say 10g dry lol
All kidding aside i have no clue. Pinset is pretty weak but time and increased fae should help that afterwhile.
More air should yield more pins. Looks damp af in there
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shevanel]
#26596176 - 04/12/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Those look pretty normal to me so far.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: A.k.a]
#26597345 - 04/13/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ye.. Also in addition to FAE, I know that my coco coir was really wet, much wetter than field capacity. Water ran down my hand as I squeezed my hand, not just dripping. Does that affect the cultivation/yield a lot?
Another question, does this seem to be enough light?
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: A.k.a]
#26597652 - 04/13/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Those look pretty normal to me so far.
A.k.a, what would you say is the main reason why your monotubes (as in the picture) grow so full of mushrooms and tight, compared to mine? If you were to give a single reason that made the biggest difference, what would it be? I want those flushes
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26597661 - 04/13/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yours will man you’ve got a good pinset, they really fill in at the last minute you’ll see.
The pictures in my signature are my best ones out of a lot of grows, except the first pic.
And two of those are clones which tend to do better.
I’ve had plenty of not that great ones too lol.

Also your light should be fine, all mine have been in a room with one window getting indirect light. Occasionally I’ll get a tub that seems to be sensitive and they’ll lean towards the window but most of the time it’s all good.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: A.k.a]
#26597745 - 04/13/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Yours will man you’ve got a good pinset, they really fill in at the last minute you’ll see.
The pictures in my signature are my best ones out of a lot of grows, except the first pic.
And two of those are clones which tend to do better.
I’ve had plenty of not that great ones too lol.

Also your light should be fine, all mine have been in a room with one window getting indirect light. Occasionally I’ll get a tub that seems to be sensitive and they’ll lean towards the window but most of the time it’s all good.
Man, you inspire me. Thanks so much I ran MS on these, but I am thinking of testing do agar and cloning as well.
I see some of my mushrooms growing faster than others. Should I harvest them before the others when they are just about to open the veil - and let the rest continue to grow thereafter? Or just leave everything until they are all big? What do you think?
Regarding the light, calming to hear, thank you brother
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26598393 - 04/13/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Man, you inspire me. Thanks so much I ran MS on these, but I am thinking of testing do agar and cloning as well.
I see some of my mushrooms growing faster than others. Should I harvest them before the others when they are just about to open the veil - and let the rest continue to grow thereafter? Or just leave everything until they are all big? What do you think?
Regarding the light, calming to hear, thank you brother 
I don't like it when spores drop onto my substrate, it makes it hard to determine the health overall as you cannot see past the dusting of spores. This makes it hard to discern mold and other bacterial contamination. I personally pic them right before the veil pops to prevent spore from being dropped, however it is REALLY nice to have a tub packed full of a mushroom forest so I leave that pleasure for the 4th/5th flush.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: mushhead]
#26598468 - 04/13/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah there’s usually a couple ready before most of the rest.
Pull them or leave them either way. Or cut the caps off if they’re in a cluster that’s not finished yet but you don’t want spores.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26598469 - 04/13/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would say those fruits looks good, maybe sub is a bit to wet but this doesnt look like fuzzy feet from lack of FAE, some of the myc on bottom is normal for cubes ime
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: nix21]
#26598479 - 04/13/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pins looking good man, Ease up on the water spraying and allow for some FAE until it’s dried from the sides at least especially since your sub was on the wetter side
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: A.k.a]
#26598483 - 04/13/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Yeah there’s usually a couple ready before most of the rest.
Pull them or leave them either way. Or cut the caps off if they’re in a cluster that’s not finished yet but you don’t want spores.
Cut the caps off and keep the myc undamaged... Why didn't I think of this? I have been chopping off mature fruits at the base which has more than likely caused budding fruits to abort.
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Thanks for all your answers my brothers, it helps me tremendously!
Here are pictures from today on my 2 monotubes. What do you think? I have loosened the polyfill and also fanned about twice a day. Do you think they need even more FAE?
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26599629 - 04/14/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is odd. Now I see that a cap has cracked. And that the other caps look a little dry. Is this what I've done too much FAE? However, there are standing water drops on the substrate..
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26599698 - 04/14/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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They look good to me.
You shouldn’t need to fan a mono though just open the holes more if it needs it.
The cracked cap prob is from drying out but they look good overall.
Should be ready to harvest a bunch by now.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: A.k.a]
#26599838 - 04/14/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: They look good to me.
You shouldn’t need to fan a mono though just open the holes more if it needs it.
The cracked cap prob is from drying out but they look good overall.
Should be ready to harvest a bunch by now.
Thanks bro. Maybe that was the problem, that I overdid it with fanning. Maybe harvest tomorrow then tripping Maybe I will come back here while I´m tripping and write stuff like hey I love you man thanks for all the tips hehe
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26599954 - 04/14/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some had already opened their veil, look at this shitty harvest 
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26599958 - 04/14/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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shroomening said: This is odd. Now I see that a cap has cracked. And that the other caps look a little dry. Is this what I've done too much FAE? However, there are standing water drops on the substrate..

They look wonderful! Don't fan your monotub, just allow the new ventilation to release the extra moisture naturally.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: mushhead]
#26599983 - 04/14/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushhead said:
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shroomening said: This is odd. Now I see that a cap has cracked. And that the other caps look a little dry. Is this what I've done too much FAE? However, there are standing water drops on the substrate..

They look wonderful! Don't fan your monotub, just allow the new ventilation to release the extra moisture naturally.
Hehe thanks for the encouragement bro (: Yes, maybe that was what I was doing wrong, fanning. I´ll let them be just instead like you say.
Edited by shroomening (04/14/20 09:53 AM)
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26600347 - 04/14/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol those are good man. That’s actually close to average size for most of the grows ive done.
It took me a while to realize that for some reason shrooms seem to look huge in other peoples pictures.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: A.k.a]
#26600593 - 04/14/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: lol those are good man. That’s actually close to average size for most of the grows ive done.
It took me a while to realize that for some reason shrooms seem to look huge in other peoples pictures.
Hmm yeah lol you are actually right, now when you say that, I have not thought about it either until now when I hear it. I will check them out tomorrow and see what the end result will be Thank you for your encouragement bro
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26600751 - 04/14/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Has this one already dropped its spores, or have I harvested it in time?
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26600792 - 04/14/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah if the veil is missing it would drop spores, though its not too huge of an issue if a little spore gets dropped. You will often times find it peppering the caps of other fruits because the veil is extremely fragile and you can't always get them all ^_^
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: mushhead]
#26600818 - 04/14/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushhead said: Yeah if the veil is missing it would drop spores, though its not too huge of an issue if a little spore gets dropped. You will often times find it peppering the caps of other fruits because the veil is extremely fragile and you can't always get them all ^_^

I think I read somewhere that if spores drop on the substrate it will not grow a new flush at that place? Is it true? Think I read it on some grow kit instruction before when I was a totally noob and ran grow kits hehehe
Should I try to harvest when the mushroom is like your picture?
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26600843 - 04/14/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah that pic is the perfect time.
I really don’t think spores affect the next flush.
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Re: Skinny and "fuzzy feets" [Re: shroomening]
#26600868 - 04/14/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah that veil was being pulled really tight so I popped it off the myc, though it could have opened up a little more. Trust me, i've had spore cover the bottom of a monotub and still get fruits all over the place afterward. Some say it causes the myc to go into a dieback mode, producing hormones and basically wanting to use the newly spawned genetics from the spores (this occurs so they can adapt to their environment but we're growing them indoors without competition usually) the most widely accepted answer is: they only add water weight after the veil breaks and after spore production is in full swing, psychedelic actives production stops however this is mostly speculation.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17856865
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#26601075 - 04/14/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I just don’t like open caps unless I’m printing.
Otherwise they take up more room and break into dust in the bags or jars.
I can’t stand the taste so idk but people say spores taste bad too.
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