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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26594936 - 04/12/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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And don't get me wrong. I like my overweight, diabetic cousin, and my old grandma and all those people. I don't wish death for anyone.

I am saying that propping up a fragile system makes it more inherently fragile and kicks the can down a bit, but makes the overall outcomes much worse.


If you use the war analogy that the politicians love to use these days, we once sent the boys and young men to die in war to prevent the tyranny of fascism. Now we are asking the old people and sickly to be willing to die to prevent mass surveillance and government sponsored oppression, crippling financial burdens for the next generation.

I don't think people are estimating how much the financial burdens are going to be. The USA has spent 25% of their GDP in one month on bailouts(4.2T) If you have 18 months of this shit, it would be cheaper for the government to buy every fucking private asset. Like the total market cap for all the S&P500 companies is only 21T. You could literally buy every fucking major company in the USA for the price that this is going to cost. Apple, Microsoft, Disney, Amazon, Facebook, Exonmobile, McDonalds, everything owned by the government. It is an underestimated tail risk right now.




they can shut fucking all the companies down for a few months, I don't care I will be getting 1250 or so a week in unemployment, everyone on unemployment will be getting what ever they qualify for +600 dollars.

I would like to go for a fucking walk in the fucking woods.


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26594943 - 04/12/20 03:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Oh lord no. Maybe in the most hard hit areas of New York City maybe 5% of the population is infected.

Currently the Bronx officially is about 1.5% of the population infected and .1% of the population has died. That’s not the CFR. Thats .1% of the entire population of the Bronx has died from covid.

South Korea’s CFR is about 2% and they likely have identified nearly all infected. Only 2% of their tests are positve, and they are only seeing a few dozen new cases a day. Their CFR is probably very close to the real number. There is a town in Italy of 4600 with 75 deaths. Testing there shows that at least 2/3 of the population is or had been infected. Regardless, their mortality rate (deaths/population) is 1.6%. That means the CFR is at least 1.6.

The true CFR for covid is somewhere between 1.5% and 2%

There is no major country in the world with a CFR below 2% that I am aware of. Even Germany is now 2.3%

I think a good way to estimate the number of cases is to take the deaths and divide by .0175 (this only applies if the healthcare system has been able to handle the stress.)

So the US has ~21000 deaths: 1.2 million infections


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman]
    #26594950 - 04/12/20 03:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I can touch a shopping cart and pick my nose. But I can't summit a mountain.

I am immune to the virus now, I should be allowed to do what ever the fuck I want.




As far as I know, all National Parks are open.




National parks are closed, state parks are closed. No where in my state is open at all and here is a random article I googled to show u a closed national park

https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/news/public-health-update.htm




I was in a national park yesterday along with a lot of other people.


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26594952 - 04/12/20 03:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

No. You can't just shut down an economy. It's more like a plane in the air than a car on the road. If it stops, everything burns and dies.


If people don't pay their rent, the landlords don't pay their mortgages and their city taxes. If the city doesn't have any taxes it has to axe all services or default on it's debt. Debt defaults ripple though the financial system and ruin pensions and retirement savings. When the mortgages aren't paid you end up with another 2008 housing crisis. Like quickly. It only took 8% of morgages failing to destroy the system a decade ago and you are talking about 30% unemployment for the next 18 months. Like the entire economic system is fucked. 50% of people live pay check to pay check. It is a crisis in the most extreme sense.

Sure you can get the forebarance, but in 2008 60-90% of people that got a forebarance in the first 2 years of the financial crisis later defaulted on their mortgage. It is kicking the can down for financially irresponsible people rather than a get out of jail free card.

There will be suffering not seen in a generation no matter what the policy actions are taken. You collapse the economy into another great depression. Or you kill millions of people and traumatize a generation.


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26594968 - 04/12/20 03:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You seem to think that it’s a binary choice. Either we let the virus run its course and have an open economy or we prevent mass death but we crash the economy. The thing is if we let the virus do it’s thing, the economy will still come to grinding halt. People will be too afraid to work if they aren’t sick and the sick will consume and ravage the healthcare system. This is not the flu. People with covid are sick for weeks. Look what’s happened in NYC with a just a tiny fraction of the population infected. 3-5% of a country’s population dying within a few months would ruin economies, not just put it on hold.


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26594981 - 04/12/20 03:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I can touch a shopping cart and pick my nose. But I can't summit a mountain.

I am immune to the virus now, I should be allowed to do what ever the fuck I want.




As far as I know, all National Parks are open.




National parks are closed, state parks are closed. No where in my state is open at all and here is a random article I googled to show u a closed national park

https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/news/public-health-update.htm




I was in a national park yesterday along with a lot of other people.




Which park

Even the massive Yellow stone park is closed.


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26594985 - 04/12/20 03:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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No. You can't just shut down an economy. It's more like a plane in the air than a car on the road. If it stops, everything burns and dies.


If people don't pay their rent, the landlords don't pay their mortgages and their city taxes. If the city doesn't have any taxes it has to axe all services or default on it's debt. Debt defaults ripple though the financial system and ruin pensions and retirement savings. When the mortgages aren't paid you end up with another 2008 housing crisis. Like quickly. It only took 8% of morgages failing to destroy the system a decade ago and you are talking about 30% unemployment for the next 18 months. Like the entire economic system is fucked. 50% of people live pay check to pay check. It is a crisis in the most extreme sense.

Sure you can get the forebarance, but in 2008 60-90% of people that got a forebarance in the first 2 years of the financial crisis later defaulted on their mortgage. It is kicking the can down for financially irresponsible people rather than a get out of jail free card.

There will be suffering not seen in a generation no matter what the policy actions are taken. You collapse the economy into another great depression. Or you kill millions of people and traumatize a generation.




They'll pay their rent, most people will be making more from unemployment than they did at their fucking job thanks to the 600 extra a week, THATS 600 EXTRA A WEEK! ONTOP OF YOUR REGULAR UNEMPLOYMENT!


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: koods]
    #26594992 - 04/12/20 03:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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You seem to think that it’s a binary choice. Either we let the virus run its course and have an open economy or we prevent mass death but we crash the economy. The thing is if we let the virus do it’s thing, the economy will still come to grinding halt. People will be too afraid to work if they aren’t sick and the sick will consume and ravage the healthcare system. This is not the flu. People with covid are sick for weeks. Look what’s happened in NYC with a just a tiny fraction of the population infected. 3-5% of a country’s population dying within a few months would ruin economies, not just put it on hold.




I was sick for 2 weeks, had a 99.4 fever, so I got tested, 5 days later positive test results, 7 days later from original test, was participating in the research study, tested positive agian, 7 more days later, 14 days total, symptom free for 4ish days, tested negative.

2 weeks from that day I will be donating more blood for research.

I barely even got sick, worst part was 4 hours of 100.8 fever with body aches, ached less than a bad flu.

1 day of rigorous coughing, 10 days after I was diagnosed I was feeling good probably was all the way over it by then.

My wifes work, everyone caught it, 1/3 of the old folks in the home died, RIP them for being over 65 years old.

No employees died but some had heart attacks and wound up on ventilators. No employees have died, since 100% of the people there have the virus, younger employees are coming in and working with medium level coughs, might as well work with covid-19 if everyone at your work has covid-19


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26594995 - 04/12/20 03:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26594997 - 04/12/20 03:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Damn, looks like you're right: https://www.backpacker.com/news-and-events/the-pacific-northwest-closed-all-forest-service-trails-heres-why

Fuck, this sucks. How could they!




Of course I am right, I wouldn't be pissed off about it if I wasn't.


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26594999 - 04/12/20 03:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26595005 - 04/12/20 03:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman]
    #26595012 - 04/12/20 04:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just before the shut down I armed up and increased my arsenal, when I saw food was running out in the stores I left the grocery store and went right to the armory and increased my arsenal, I wasn't the only one to get the Idea either. The line behind me went out the front door and down the street or some shit. I got some of the last items, it was slim pickins after my turn, that long ass line behind me was about to be very disappointing at their selection options.

So now, more people in the area are armed to the teeth, and they're stepping all over us.

We've done some wild shit over tea, its in our veins pumping, freedom pumps through our veins and there is no freedom outside of our bodies right now.


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman]
    #26595016 - 04/12/20 04:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I am not even sure if there is freedom inside my body at the moment. We're caged animals right now!


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman]
    #26595020 - 04/12/20 04:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You gone spread the virus while sk8 boarding m8



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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman] * 2
    #26595025 - 04/12/20 04:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Planting seeds spreads the virus its too dangerous m8





Paddle boarding out in the ocean alone in California is gonna spread the virus m8


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman]
    #26595028 - 04/12/20 04:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

fuck


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman]
    #26595029 - 04/12/20 04:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Michigan made it illegal to buy fucking seeds to grow for fucking food lmao.






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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: MadMuncher] * 2
    #26595032 - 04/12/20 04:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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fuck




its more than fuck, after the virus is over, if it ever is truly over, its like saying the flu will eventually be over, its always around somewhere,

Things will never be the same, we all let them take the rights away, without resistance, shit it was so easy most of you didn't even notice it was happening or happened.

We are now communist, Trumps literally giving away free money, lots of it, lots and lots of it, they're talking about giving essential workers lots of money for still working, like my wife, don't get me wrong we want the fucking money, its fucking money after all. But we're all prisoners of the state now.

Free to do what ever they want to us. Everyone will gladly surrender for their 900 - 1491 dollars a WEEK of unemployment. Essential workers will praise their 25k bonus (if that actually passes as a law anyway) you will surrender your freedom for security and you will do it with thunderous applause, your dollars will go down in value because there is soo many new dollars in the market, but its ok, it will happen globally.

Shit the damage might be so sever every country might have to unite into one symbiotic country and unify the monetary system and damage done to equally spread the financial destruction.

I hope you own assets and property of tangible value, because its all gonna go up in value, well its not actually, the money is just going down in value.


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Re: So we can't even go on hikes now? [Re: budmanman]
    #26595034 - 04/12/20 04:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

i know i hear you


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