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The Blind Ass
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Psychs wouldn’t do anything to the child’s dna, doesn’t work that way, atleast - never learned that as a bio major. But, 2 psychonaughts bringing up a child would have more of an influence.
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That's not what I meant, as it's well known that LSD was said to cause genetic mutation and that its use increased rate of pregnancy, but it turned out to be bullshit propaganda. It's also more of a McKenna idea promoting the evolution of serotonin into DMT as the main neurotransmitter in the future of human consciousness. But it would be interesting to see a psychonaut's influence on a kid, like if they could see any of themselves in him/her. Once a person does a drug though, their brain is changed for good.
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I believe the lessons you learn in the psychedelic headspace affect your personal journey through life, how you perceive the world, and how you relate to people following your revelations. I cannot see how this cannot positively affect those around you...
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all depends on which alleles they inherit, so technically perhaps, but I wouldn’t know. It would have to have an effect on a molecular level, impacting their gamets, never heard of such a thing happening, so idk
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The Blind Ass said: all depends on which alleles they inherit, so technically perhaps, but I wouldn’t know. It would have to have an effect on a molecular level, impacting their gamets, never heard of such a thing happening, so idk
That's true, and it never really happened before, as this is technically the post psychedelic summer of love. I wouldn't call it a renaissance. There might be a connection between the recent uses of mushrooms and LSD and the surge of childbirths. All I was saying in the limit cases I know of it could lead to increase in "intuition," if one of the parents was a heavy user.
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Seems very wishful thinking like, I wish too...but yeah idk, that doesn’t make it so just bc it sounds great or whatever... heavy users can also end up dumb or delusional as all hell. But not all, so it would be cool, go study n find it out man🤜
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Re: Kr0tchy [Re: DJ Ed]
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DJ Ed said: I believe the lessons you learn in the psychedelic headspace affect your personal journey through life, how you perceive the world, and how you relate to people following your revelations. I cannot see how this cannot positively affect those around you...
It depends on the revelation. Integration is also important. Some say a person is probably never the same after a trip, no matter how hard they try and get used to it or fit in. It gets to the point where one wants their family to trip to see if they'll like it. But I admit, despite the so called beauty I've been made to understand through psychedelic trips, I'm not doing so well. I still come up with the same problem of bad interpersonal relationships so that I just have to treat people better. But I already passed up too many chances, and some people I'll never see or get the chance to speak to again. It looks more grim since you can see how it gets past a certain point. It's just dwelling on negativity since psychedelics play a role in the cause and effect of society. Many artists are known to have smoked weed or done different drugs. Some of my choices haven't made it fair to others so that future actions seem less pure, as those I no longer have direct access to in life could have been more deserving of me than any company I meet after.
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Tough one, blabble40,
What I’ve come to realise over the last year or so of mushroom use is that you can’t go back, you can only alter going forwards. Reviewing your past live and actions is only beneficial if you can change stuff going forwards, otherwise it tends towards a negative loop of self-hatred. You’re being unfair on yourself, stop beating yourself up for past actions, focus on the positives and move forward
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The Blind Ass said: Seems very wishful thinking like, I wish too...but yeah idk, that doesn’t make it so just bc it sounds great or whatever... heavy users can also end up dumb or delusional as all hell. But not all, so it would be cool, go study n find it out man🤜
Alleles and gametes are basic biology. I'm not talking about heredity and dominant or recessive genes. It's believed psychedelics don't change DNA. I'm just talking about the drugs combining with some of your cells, and that cycle being included in reproduction.
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The drug doesn’t combined with a cell, and get included into that cells chromatins reproduction....
When ingested, the drug gets broken down by the body in a complex fashion. The aggregates of the drug are composed of molecules, it cannot simply combine with a cell.... the effects that create the drug effects aren’t from combination, that’s a whole other processes. There are strict conditions for what can and cannot pass through the cellular membrane of a cell. Simple way of thinking of it the same way as food works minus the drug effect, needs to be broken down into basic aggregates before it can be used or excreted, and genetically those aggregates cannot pass upon any psychedelia in any way, because they’re rendered into basic amino acids and become sugars and carbs and lipids and etc.... it’s rendered in a way that it loses the properties that make it a drug in the first place. It’s an extremely complicated process (many processes actually) and this is post describes just an elementary verisimilitude of it.
I see what your trying to say, but I’m telling ya, it doesn’t work that way.
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The drug doesn’t combined with a cell, and get included into that cells chromatins reproduction....
When ingested, the drug gets broken down by the body in a complex fashion. The aggregates of the drug are composed of molecules, it cannot simply combine with a cell.... the effects that create the drug effects aren’t from combination, that’s a whole other processes. There are strict conditions for what can and cannot pass through the cellular membrane of a cell. Simple way of thinking of it the same way as food works minus the drug effect, needs to be broken down into basic aggregates before it can be used or excreted, and genetically those aggregates cannot pass upon any psychedelia in any way, because they’re rendered into basic amino acids and become sugars and carbs and lipids and etc.... it’s rendered in a way that it loses the properties that make it a drug in the first place. It’s an extremely complicated process (many processes actually) and this is post describes just an elementary verisimilitude of it.
I see what your trying to say, but I’m telling ya, it doesn’t work that way.
I'm more of a physicist than a hereditary scientist. I'm not an employed doctor who cuts umbilical cords or delivers babies. I was just talking about drugs entering the bloodstream. I'm also an adherent of the "holographic" universe and its principles, which can be more apparent the higher you are. That means the world operates on principles similar to fractal geometry. Everything is one, in other words. The universal love stuff is bs. So, I'm not talking about the mechanical aspects of it. Someone who has done DMT will still be a different parent and create a different child than someone who hasn't done it. I'm not saying that makes the biggest difference, but it's a part of the culture. The child of a musician doesn't necessarily always become a musician too.
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Considering all humans dream, which is arguably one of if not the most hallucinogenic and psychedelic experience there is. Wouldn’t that, by your own admission, change the parents and babies. I’m acquainted with the holographic depiction of phenomena and others like it, know fractals from experience, so in that sense, I know what your getting at now, for all we know- it could, but we have no way of quantifying it because of the nature of those experiences being intersubjective. even if I subscribe to such a philosophy or view- it has to be reconciled with the fundamental sciences we have established.
By that I mean they couldn’t be mutually exclusive - but somehow the uni series would have to be dynamic enough in nature to be able to support both as true and interdependent upon one another. As an one could be an emergent property of the other - or of each other. Thinking of it like that is really cool, because it means modern science has Much more room to expand and develop, and one day we may know quantifiable beyond just private experience, and so be able to really speculate on your initial question with facts and measurements. 
Ps. I think they explore this theme a tiny bit in “Stranger Things 1 or 2”. It’s likely thought of as fringe and false, but in the grand scheme of things our understanding of things via the scientific method right now looks a hellllllll of a lot different from 300 years ago, so one can only imagine what form it will take in 3,000 or 30,000, or 300,000 years!
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