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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: Shenmue]
    #26596289 - 04/12/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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lowbrow said:
Well adjusted women are not exactly the topic of this conversation.







We're talking about attractive women, if you really want to narrow it down.


Specifically attractive women who didn't grow up with poverty to you know, break their spirits and magically turn them into a decent human being, like we know poverty always does.


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Eminence said:
He said hot women, not all women lol.

Or wait, you talking about the first post? I think it's gotten to the point of being undeniable that women usually are sided with automatically when it comes to domestic disputes. Not just on the individual basis, but where it matters, in court.




Don't you just love the PC/ far left hippies on shroomery.org lol? You say hot woman are usually a mess then they call you a woman hater :lol:.. People like pirate-blues that are destroying this country and star wars lol.







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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: Shenmue]
    #26596296 - 04/12/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Shenmue said:
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Eminence said:
He said hot women, not all women lol.

Or wait, you talking about the first post? I think it's gotten to the point of being undeniable that women usually are sided with automatically when it comes to domestic disputes. Not just on the individual basis, but where it matters, in court.




Don't you just love the PC/ far left hippies on shroomery.org lol? You say hot woman are usually a mess then they call you a woman hater :lol:.. People like pirate-blues are destroying this country and star wars lol.



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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: Shenmue] * 2
    #26596298 - 04/12/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I really don't like those types, but I can't rag on pirate blues. I don't agree with some things she says but she's not insane like plenty of other members here.


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26596304 - 04/12/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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pirate-blues said:
It's still a shitty and stupid thing to say, and tbh that wide spread attitude is one reason why I took a multi year sabbatical from this place myself.


But whatevs.


edit..to respond to your edit:


No, and I agree that there are some biases that favor women as well. This is a great example of that, using this to turn it around on all women is stupid.


If you really can't see why calling all attractive women have to be crazy(unless they grew up poor) is a stupid and at least mildly(I will admit this is mostly ME just being cranky) sexist then I can't help ya bud.


It's a shitty attitude and it's prevalent as hell.




I said ALL hot women that dont grow up poor ? I said usually you fucking idiot!! I hate people so much :lol: ..


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Invisiblepirate-blues
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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: Shenmue]
    #26596307 - 04/12/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

And that's also a moronic thing to say, so congrats.


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: Eminence]
    #26596311 - 04/12/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Eminence said:
I really don't like those types, but I can't rag on pirate blues. I don't agree with some things she says but she's not insane like plenty of other members here.




She sure seems insane to me lmao. He straight up changes everything you say and starts arguments lol. That's not something a well adjusted person does.


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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: pirate-blues] * 2
    #26596312 - 04/12/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

We should all come together to color the world.

Yay.


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26596318 - 04/12/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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pirate-blues said:
And that's also a moronic thing to say, so congrats.




It's 100% true!!! I've basically never met a 10/10 young female that grew up with money 100% sane. Show me a few examples of how I'm wrong and I'll apologize lol!!


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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26596319 - 04/12/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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pirate-blues said:




We're talking about attractive women, if you really want to narrow it down.




And sometimes they have a princess complex.

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pirate-blues said:

Specifically attractive women who didn't grow up with poverty to you know, break their spirits and magically turn them into a decent human being, like we know poverty always does.



I disagree with his view of super attractive girls in poverty.  I think they might be more dangerous than the well-off ones.


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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: pirate-blues] * 2
    #26596322 - 04/12/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If it’s any consolation I’ve never gotten a SJW vibe from ya, hun.


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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #26596325 - 04/12/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Eminence said:
What if I were to say that it's often men that get them to be so entitled or crazy like that in first place by treating them like spoiled goddesses all their lives? Would you call me sexist for that? Just curious.




individually sexist prolly not
casually accepting of institutional sexism, prolly
or, at least, you speak with a form of recognition for it, but seem to label it as an afterthought
while for girls it is the forefront experience

this sort of treatment is exactly the problem,
can also be framed as the Geisha issue
pretty girls are taught their sexuality is a tool of manipulation, that they have to make the most of it before it is thrown away
boys get taught to make the most of themselves -- girls get taught to make themselves the most appealing to the boys

we need society to simultaneously empower boys and demystify pretty girls
boys need to understand they can have social worth without it being due to arm-candy; girls need to understand they can have personal worth

there is also an adjacent issue of how this reflects in social representations
where average/"ugly" women are effectively taught they are without personal or social worth

my personal favourite media exploration of this has been via Yennefer in the Witcher series



tl/dw -- the important part to my position is that she was born ugly and disfigured, and then magically (read: fantasy equivalent of surgically) altered to be beautiful enough to be suited to the social prestige of her position
which results in "pseudo-pretty women, with the angry and cold eyes of ugly girls"

a sentiment reflected not by you, but by OP in:
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Shenmue said:
...Dating hot women comes with a huge cost lol. Unless they grow up poor they're usually fucked up.




guys don't like being ugly
but girls are taught we're nothing if we're ugly


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Invisiblepirate-blues
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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: Shenmue]
    #26596326 - 04/12/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)


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Shenmue said:
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pirate-blues said:
And that's also a moronic thing to say, so congrats.




It's 100% true!!! I've basically never met a 10/10 young female that grew up with money 100% sane. Show me a few examples of how I'm wrong and I'll apologize lol!!








Anecdotal =/= "100% true"

For me to debunk this argument in the way I'd really like it's going to take paragraphs, and paragraphs.


But I'm really stoned.

So truce.


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: lowbrow]
    #26596330 - 04/12/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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lowbrow said:
Quote:

pirate-blues said:




We're talking about attractive women, if you really want to narrow it down.




And sometimes they have a princess complex.

Quote:

pirate-blues said:

Specifically attractive women who didn't grow up with poverty to you know, break their spirits and magically turn them into a decent human being, like we know poverty always does.



I disagree with his view of super attractive girls in poverty.  I think they might be more dangerous than the well-off ones.




I don't agree with that. I believe suffering and difficult times often builds character and turns you into a stronger person.


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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: Tantrika]
    #26596334 - 04/12/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Biology is a bitch ain't it? I don't treat women I find unattractive with any less respect than I do with attractive women. But I'm not gonna date or have children with a woman I find unattractive, just not gonna happen lol.


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26596335 - 04/12/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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pirate-blues said:

Quote:

Shenmue said:
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pirate-blues said:
And that's also a moronic thing to say, so congrats.




It's 100% true!!! I've basically never met a 10/10 young female that grew up with money 100% sane. Show me a few examples of how I'm wrong and I'll apologize lol!!








Anecdotal =/= "100% true"

For me to debunk this argument in the way I'd really like it's going to take paragraphs, and paragraphs.


But I'm really stoned.

So truce.




Yeah that's what I thought. You have nothing. You're just trying to argue because you're miserable.


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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26596336 - 04/12/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So only poor people suffer? Suffering is an innate human experience that we all have our own unique understanding of.


I agree adversity can build character, but it can also negatively effect a person in many ways - mental health included.




I do not want to come off like I'm defending Amber Heard, she is pure asshole.


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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: lowbrow]
    #26596338 - 04/12/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I saw this thing on how a dating site started applying “social value” to people and, in a nutshell...

When females are born, typically they’re princesses and everyone goes out of their way to do things for them so this becomes their norm.  Males usually aren’t given the same courtesy and that becomes their norm.  Dudes usually pick up a shovel so to speak to earn a dollar and usually girls aren’t running chainsaws and shit so they do what they do....

So jump to where they ‘enter the world’ and the princesses get treated a little more real, where guys are getting their shit together so things are making progress.  So chicks perceive things as getting worse compared to their norm and for guys things are getting better compared to their norm...

This is just a real brief jist of the story but it was explaining why broads think they get shorted in life, especially the hella woke ones...


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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: Shenmue]
    #26596339 - 04/12/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think your version a poverty and mine differ.


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26596341 - 04/12/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

We're talking about a Johnny Depp vs amber heard and you're ranting about women in general. Don't you have anything better to do with your time?


Edited by Shenmue (04/12/20 06:19 PM)


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Re: Amber heard vs Johnny depp!!! [Re: lowbrow]
    #26596343 - 04/12/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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lowbrow said:
I think your version a poverty and mine differ.




Also I think much of the time you see a woman who's attractive AND blatantly rich, it's people like actors. And like I said before, those people seem kinda nuts in general, especially those who got into it at a young age.


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