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Orange24
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Cannabis + psilocybin 1
#26583660 - 04/07/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I want to thank this community. I’ve never been on a board where help comes not only fast but so many of my questions (and believe me I’m EXTREMELY curious about a lot) have been so eloquently answered. And from so many different points of view. I don’t think, of the four trips I’ve had, that I would have been able to get as far as I’ve gotten without all the input.
Now, I see a lot of users, maybe up to 50% say they use cannabis at different times during their trip. Sometimes before, sometimes on the come up and then often on the come down.
I’m curious, what’s the reasoning behind this(anxiety on the come up)?? How much do you usually smoke? Does using it when the trip is ending (visuals subsiding and energy coming back) extend the trip?
I’m just trying to get an idea of everyone’s reasoning behind this? I don’t plan on using cannabis before during or after a trip yet. I’m just learning how to handle the mushrooms and let the experience guide me, last thing I need in the beginning of this journey is to throw something else unpredictable in the mix. And that’s not to say I don’t love cannabis; combining the two for me isn’t in the cards yet, for my own safety.
Anyways, fire away!
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: Orange24] 1
#26583672 - 04/07/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm usually laughing and enjoying myself too much to even think about weed on the come up or during most of the trip. I do smoke on the come down, though.
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: Orange24]
#26583694 - 04/07/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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For years I smoked cannabis once the peak started to wain. Each joint would extend the visuals and headspace for up to an hour; the second maybe 45 mins, the 3rd maybe 30 mins, by which time I’d be ready for bed.
Then I got greedy and started smoking earlier in the trip; for me personally, this was not good and resulted in some really weird trips; completely stopped the come up for two hours once, almost like it overrode the psilocin!
So made a decision not to smoke until I had at least reached the peak. Again this was not good as the increase in intensity most times ruined the trip; I would resort to survival mode (head in hands, elbows on knees);,the last time, and the first time in years, I had to contact my wife to come home and sit with me.
So last few trips I have avoided cannabis altogether. Really really nervous now or touching it at all, until I am very definitely well on the way down.
Hope this helps DJ Ed
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: BooShow]
#26583699 - 04/07/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Some people get severe anxiety from weed but I do like to eat some edibles. I take about 200-300mg about 45 minutes before the mushrooms. Now I always have the intention of smoking during the trip but I usually find myself unable to even focus on lighting, packing, let alone smoking. If I'm able to I will smoke about 1 bowl during the peak. Then during the come down.
What does it do? It seems to amplify the experience to nth degree. N can be shoe horns or anything. I tend to get wicked body sensations like I'm being rumg out like a mop. It's very intense. As far as visuals are concerned I can't really say to much as my doses are rather high (5g+). After I smoke things become way more seemingly chaotic. Thoughts race, time becomes even less relevant. Idk it's a different experience for is all.
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: DJ Ed] 1
#26583865 - 04/07/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: For years I smoked cannabis once the peak started to wain. Each joint would extend the visuals and headspace for up to an hour; the second maybe 45 mins, the 3rd maybe 30 mins, by which time I’d be ready for bed.
Then I got greedy and started smoking earlier in the trip; for me personally, this was not good and resulted in some really weird trips; completely stopped the come up for two hours once, almost like it overrode the psilocin!
So made a decision not to smoke until I had at least reached the peak. Again this was not good as the increase in intensity most times ruined the trip; I would resort to survival mode (head in hands, elbows on knees);,the last time, and the first time in years, I had to contact my wife to come home and sit with me.
So last few trips I have avoided cannabis altogether. Really really nervous now or touching it at all, until I am very definitely well on the way down.
Hope this helps DJ Ed
Always appreciate your answers, man! Thank you. This helps tremendously.
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: DJ Ed]
#26584063 - 04/07/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: completely stopped the come up for two hours once, almost like it overrode the psilocin!
I can say this was also true for me
weed and shrooms can be a pretty fun experience but weed made me feel anxious lately so i avoided combining the two for my last few trips
i find joints to be very relaxing after the trip is over tho, really helps with going to sleep as mushrooms have some kind of a "mental energizing" effect for me
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DJ Ed said: completely stopped the come up for two hours once, almost like it overrode the psilocin!
I can say this was also true for me
weed and shrooms can be a pretty fun experience but weed made me feel anxious lately so i avoided combining the two for my last few trips
i find joints to be very relaxing after the trip is over tho, really helps with going to sleep as mushrooms have some kind of a "mental energizing" effect for me
I tripped Sunday at 8:30-9 and was up sooo late. Soon as midnight hit it felt like a blast of energy.
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: Orange24]
#26588344 - 04/09/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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For me personally cannabis and shrooms have an important synergy together. My first trips I used it in the beginning to keep anxiety away. Now I use it to get my mind in the right place to experience the trip. My brain is to loud and fast and without proper medication my trips dont work as well. Cannabis will definitely enhance the visuals. I usually start smoking around peak when shits really popping off and it's time to sit back and get work done. I've also smoked some wax 7 or 8 hours after I dosed, was down for an hour or two by this point and my buddies face morphed into some weird shit. I was surprised any visuals let alone something that intense would happen so long after comedown. I also like to enjoy A nice blunt during comedown and contemplation of the last couple hours. Helps me start integrating what I was taught.
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: Orange24] 1
#26588391 - 04/09/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like the Terence Method.
Half a hit to help bring it on.
Too much weed and weird stuff like this starts happening https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26518271
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: Orange24]
#26590262 - 04/10/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I love my weed but i prefer the pure mushroom experience. However, i do like to smoke on the come down for an added boast. Typically thou, i like pure mushroom trips.
How do i smoke? A few bong rips, nothing heavy.
My reasoning behind it is i enioy weed so i like to smoke it whenever i can
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I liked to smoke soon as i ate them to kinda ride into the high and get away from the come up.
Peak is a bit too intense to smoke
Smoke on the come down, so relaxing.
Once i was smoking outside on the come down and every time it launched me into crazy shit..
Pretty sure i had an out of body experience that night and thought me and the tree in front of me were one. Connected.
Strain matters ime.
Need a downer for relaxation and calming and not an upper
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Quote:
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weed and shrooms can be a pretty fun experience but weed made me feel anxious lately so i avoided combining the two for my last few trips
i find joints to be very relaxing after the trip is over tho, really helps with going to sleep as mushrooms have some kind of a "mental energizing" effect
same here w the anxiety. i’ll go through periods where i’m high & totally fine, & then through periods where weed will just be making me anxious. it’s usually bc i’m overdoing it or using it for escapism so it’s not a bad thing, but the synergy of smoking weed while in an anxious period is def not fun. can be a little overwhelming
but if i’m on good terms w weed, i smoke like a train anywhere from the beginning of the peak or until i start coming down. usually gives it a slight more edge or intensifies things a little bit. i seem to kinda plateau when i smoke, so i never get too high. might just be my weed tolerance though idk
the only thing i don’t like is that it can make the trip a little too hazy for me. even if i’m having fun, the trip & my memory of it feel less clear which kinda sucks. generally i find if i want a more intense trip, i need to just take more mushrooms instead of trying to compensate
weed & LSD though????? every fuckin time
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: hazyhorse]
#26592986 - 04/11/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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For me, it's essential on the come down but be wary of taking it on the come up. It enhances the visuals what feels like tenfold. But then there are cases like my friend, where cannabis and psilocybin seeeends him off and made him almost have a mental break. If you can handle it, I recommend but just be careful and look after yourself.
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: Chaleq]
#26593077 - 04/11/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dude, if I know i'm going to be tripping, i'll wait out for some dank and roll up an 8th and hit the woods. Like its essential. If I was tripping and didnt have smoke. For me personally it would ruin my trip for im dependant on weed and except it. I hit the side of a semi in the last 4 years. I dont like to go with out. I set my life up in a way I won't
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I think it's nice on the comedown. When I'm almost sober.
The trip is filled with so much visuals and emotions that the "real world" seems a bit dull to me. Just going to bed feels so anti climatic. Smoking a joint before going to sleep gives the trip one last punch and falling asleep gets easier. I don't really see any point in smoking during the trip though
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Re: Cannabis + psilocybin [Re: hejAdig999]
#26596239 - 04/12/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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To get in the fuckin mode...but no seriously you touched on something off subject I notice almost all really good trips were timed just right in the evening so when things finally came to a fizzle, your not left with a whats next, or a remainder of a day to fullfill post trip. This is especially true with cacti, shrooms aswell, but with mesc the comedown is so darn gradual and smooth and beautiful that you are left in a great state to eat a healthy snack and ritire with such ease afterward. Shrooms can be the same, but i've noticed Lucy was the odd bitch out who kept me feeling kinda tweeky into the late stages of the night. That one of the least desirable traits about lucy imo and one of the vest traits in favor of natural containers.
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