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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26591252 - 04/10/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

https://abc7.com/coronavirus-covid-19-herd-immunity-california/6091220/


California doing antibody testing to see if this may have been lurking around there earlier than thought


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: morrowasted]
    #26591256 - 04/10/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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She's 90 and has dementia, it's a good day if she recognizes me in person. I haven't been able to speak to her over the phone in years. I have not recieved any calls saying she's exhibiting symptoms, so I'm just hoping it stays that way. Fingers crossed.






Sorry to hear that p-b.
I have no living parents or grandparents, but if one good thing comes from this pandemic it will be that we become more rational in our expectations.
I had hoped that the UK would have at least held a referendum on legalising euthanasia before the time I felt the need to take advantge of it.
To me it is criminal that people force dementia on others when we ourselves would not want to live like that. That we would put down a fukin animal to save it from suffering but watch our family members suffer horredously, because of some religious bullshit, is the closest thing I know to pure, fucking, evil.







Yeah my dad constantly tells me to shoot him if he ever gets that bad, and he's only kind of joking :lol::uhoh:



I absolutely agree with euthanasia in theory, but in practice it gets trickier - I still want it legalized, I just want it air tight so that no one with executive power or power of attorney or anything can coerce a vulnerable person into participating in it. My grandma has mostly emotionally regressed to a child at this point..but she's oddly happy, not confused or scared, or mean - like some people get. And dementia is insidious, this has been happening over the last ten years..I don't even remember how or when it got this bad. Some days she even still has moments where she's herself. I know for a fact that she would not want euthanasia, she's from Italy, and very Catholic, would never ever agree to it in her right frame of mind. But someone with ill intentions could easily get her to sign or do pretty much anything at this point.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: morrowasted]
    #26591258 - 04/10/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You know he hand picks the reporters right?

He refuses to pick ppl who dont ask nicely or serve some purpose. Theyre all corporate ppl. Watching those press conferences lowers your IQ.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26591261 - 04/10/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

He doesn’t pick the reporters. The White House correspondents association does.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
    #26591290 - 04/10/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

its all corporate whores in charge


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: morrowasted]
    #26591299 - 04/10/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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i hate how much i have been agreeing with donald trump lately


dont get me wrong. he is a fucking clown


but these reporters just cant help but ask leading questions to try and get their soundbites is fucking annoying. we just want the real information. fuck your partisan politics




They are making him look really good instead of really bad because compared to them he looks highly intelligent

Btw, was just reading a bit and..

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-new-coronavirus-could-have-been-percolating-innocently-in-humans-for-years


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26591302 - 04/10/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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its all corporate whores in charge



Your cynicism is so edgy


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26591304 - 04/10/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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"The germ has gotten so brilliant that the antibiotic can't keep up with it ... there's a whole genius to it ... not only is it hidden, but it's very smart."




- Donald J Trump


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods] * 3
    #26591310 - 04/10/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

We're so fucked. :blowmybrainsout:


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: imachavel] * 2
    #26591314 - 04/10/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting article from 2017.

https://archive.vn/xe8su


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow]
    #26591323 - 04/10/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Interesting article from 2017.

https://archive.vn/xe8su




Anther reason to never go into a cave


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow]
    #26591324 - 04/10/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It was only a matter of time.


Still overdue for that influenza pandemic too.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26591326 - 04/10/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

They are all owned by the same 6 people and china... There are no real journalists in the WHCA

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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26591327 - 04/10/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I wonder if the guy who licked that bat survived and thinks “I did this?”


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26591328 - 04/10/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

tamara keith is kinda cute tho


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26591329 - 04/10/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Article from 2018.
https://archive.vn/3SMnq


New SARS-like virus from bats implicated in China pig die-off
Filed Under: SARS
Lisa Schnirring | News Editor | CIDRAP News  | Apr 05, 2018
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A novel coronavirus that killed nearly 25,000 piglets at four farms in Guangdong province in 2016 and 2017 came from horseshoe bats and bears other striking similarities to the emergence of SARS, researchers reported yesterday in a letter to Nature.
The outbreaks in piglets occurred only about 62 miles from where the SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) index case-patient lived. The SARS epidemic—also caused by a novel coronavirus (CoV) thought to have originated in the same bat species—began in southern China in 2002, sickening nearly 8,100 people, 774 of them fatally, in 37 countries.
The new findings are the result of an investigation into a fatal outbreak that got worse, even after porcine epidemic diarrhea virus (PEDV), involved in the initial phase of the event, was no longer turning up in samples from dead piglets. Researchers from China, EcoHealth Alliance, and Duke-NUS Medical School collaborated on the study, which was supported by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health.
So far, only six CoVs are known to infect humans, but only two have been linked to large fatal outbreaks: SARS and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV).
Similarities to earlier bat coronavirus
Symptoms of the disease were similar to other known swine enteric CoV, but tests for other known viruses were negative, suggesting a novel disease. Similar outbreaks spread to three other pig farms not far from the index location, and by May 2017, the disease had killed 24,693 piglets on the four affected farms. Separating sick piglets and sows from herds helped curb the outbreak in May.
Using next-generation genetic sequencing on a sample from the small intestine of a sick piglet, the researchers identified sequences that matched bat CoV HKU2, which was first identified in Chinese horseshoe bats from Guangdong province and Hong Kong in 2007. They found the new virus, which they called swine acute diarrhea syndrome coronavirus (SADS-CoV), on all four of the farms.
Peter Daszak, PhD, study coauthor and EcoHealth Alliance president, said in a press release, from the group, "This is a really unexpected finding: a brand new virus from the same bats that harbor SARS-like viruses, but this time causing a major outbreak in pig farms."
Test targeting the nucleocapsid gene detected the virus in sick piglets and sows, but not in recovered or healthy pigs on the four farms or on nearby farms that didn't experience outbreaks. SADS-CoV replicated at higher levels in piglets than in sows and showed small intestine tissue tropism similar to other swine enteric coronaviruses.
Retrospective testing found that SADS-CoV had been on the first farm in early December 2016 and became the dominant outbreak strain by the middle of January 2017 when the events worsened.
No jump to exposed humans
To see if the virus had the capacity to jump to humans, the investigators conducted tests on the blood of 35 farm workers who had close contact with the sick pigs, and none were positive for SADS-CoV exposure.
A genetic comparison of SADS-CoV and HKU2 CoV found that overall the two viruses are 95% similar, but the S-gene sequences were only 86% similar, hinting that SADS-CoV didn't directly come from HKU2 CoV, but may share a common ancestor.
Next, they looked for any connections to viruses isolated from a group of 591 bat anal samples that had been collected from 2013 to 2016 in seven locations in Guangdong province. A total of 58 (9.8%) were highly related to SADS-CoV, all of them from horseshoe bats, which are known reservoirs for SARS-related viruses.
Phylogenetic and halotype analysis suggested that viruses on the four farms were introduced to pigs from bats multiple times or the virus was introduced once and underwent recombination.
Lab tests to see if SADS-CoV uses known coronavirus host cell receptors found that none function as a virus entry, and experimental infections using the virus in piglets led to watery diarrhea, rapid weight loss, and intestinal lesions.
Importance of early detection
The researchers said their findings serve as an important reminder that identifying new viruses in animals and quickly assessing their potential to infect people is one key to reducing global health threats. They also said that new technological tools, such as next-generation sequencing, can be performed rapidly before the virus is isolated.
Daszak said, "This work highlights the value of going to emerging disease hotspots and doing surveillance in wildlife for novel viruses so we can stop them when they emerge." He also added that the study is a major success story for the US Agency for International Development (USAID) Emerging Pandemic Threats PREDICT project.
"It's also the type of work that the Global Virome Project will tackle: finding these viruses before they cause damage," he said.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow]
    #26591342 - 04/10/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

This almost confirms the bat soup hypothesis.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26591367 - 04/10/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

"The germ has gotten so brilliant that the antibiotic can't keep up with it ... there's a whole genius to it ... not only is it hidden, but it's very smart."




- Donald J Trump




You don't have a video of him saying it do you?

For example





No one can believe how funny it is to hear him say any of that until you see it for yourself. Hearing him speak is a riot. Seeing it quoted in text is only half as rich....
.... If even. Its much funnier when you watch him speak.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: lowbrow]
    #26591370 - 04/10/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

yeah a bat from another province with a different disease spread it....

and not a controversial lab that studied it whose scientists and whistleblowers were likely murdered by the government


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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26591371 - 04/10/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It likely had nothing to do with eating a bat. More likely a bat sneeze or something like that. Just being in the presence of an infected wild animal is the real risk. A cooked bat would be harmless.


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