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Re: All-in-one grow bag [Re: Sockadin]
#26541461 - 03/17/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: It looks good. It's a fruit in bag style so the bulk sub layer is there.
Op: Not many people are gonna have experience with this style, most people seem doctrinated to me now days. "Your doing it wrong, or just do agar it is simple" I see far to often on these boards lately.
Maybe I'm just getting up there in age man, but you do you and we are here to help if you need a second opinion.
Bag looks good, hope you get enough for the final ride out of this hell hole!
How do you plan on fruiting your bag?
I smells good too! I don't see too well anymore and when I mixed them, it was not completely mixed. I am in my 70s and I have been growing every couple of years since the early 90s. I appreciate the help. /Rant Start I absolutely agree with you about the Indoctrination Factor! There is only one way to do this...except there isn't. I used the PF Tek for years and it has never disappointed me, but now omg! You are using a multi-spore syringe? That's nasty! And you are obviously a loser if you try to make this process easier by purchasing a product that you could make in just a couple of hours. and if you have a lot of hours, that isn't a problem. The bags that I bought cost me 20 dollars each. I then prepared a few grain jars, and spent hours cleaning, soaking and pasteurizing them. I spent more time inoculating a few agar plates (also purchased). Then, I inoculated the jars with the plate and spent all day today preparing the coir-vermiculite substrate so that I can spawn the jars. So my conclusion: It was easier to inject the bag with a spore syringe. Yes, I lost one to contamination but even with the new Teks there are failures. There are many people here that disparage vendors even those who sponsor this group. If spore vendors sent out dirty products as a general practice they would not be in business long. /End Rant I birthed the "cake" as I would have done with a PF cake. The grain spawn will go into a unmodified monotub.
Thanks for your encouragement not just for me, but for those who are new to this forum, especially those who make their own mistakes.
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Sockadin said: It looks good. It's a fruit in bag style so the bulk sub layer is there.
Op: Not many people are gonna have experience with this style, most people seem doctrinated to me now days. "Your doing it wrong, or just do agar it is simple" I see far to often on these boards lately.
Maybe I'm just getting up there in age man, but you do you and we are here to help if you need a second opinion.
Bag looks good, hope you get enough for the final ride out of this hell hole!
How do you plan on fruiting your bag?
I smells good too! I don't see too well anymore and when I mixed them, it was not completely mixed. I am in my 70s and I have been growing every couple of years since the early 90s. I appreciate the help. /Rant Start I absolutely agree with you about the Indoctrination Factor! There is only one way to do this...except there isn't. I used the PF Tek for years and it has never disappointed me, but now omg! You are using a multi-spore syringe? That's nasty! And you are obviously a loser if you try to make this process easier by purchasing a product that you could make in just a couple of hours. and if you have a lot of hours, that isn't a problem. The bags that I bought cost me 20 dollars each. I then prepared a few grain jars, and spent hours cleaning, soaking and pasteurizing them. I spent more time inoculating a few agar plates (also purchased). Then, I inoculated the jars with the plate and spent all day today preparing the coir-vermiculite substrate so that I can spawn the jars. So my conclusion: It was easier to inject the bag with a spore syringe. Yes, I lost one to contamination but even with the new Teks there are failures. There are many people here that disparage vendors even those who sponsor this group. If spore vendors sent out dirty products as a general practice they would not be in business long. /End Rant I birthed the "cake" as I would have done with a PF cake. The grain spawn will go into a unmodified monotub.
Thanks for your encouragement not just for me, but for those who are new to this forum, especially those who make their own mistakes.
Congrats on the successes and sorry if you’re frustrated, people really are trying to help evolve the practice here so don’t take it personally. If you ask for advice it will come, what you do with each recommendation is certainly your choice. Hopefully you stick around and learn / adapt with the rest of us, it’s a community and all are welcome!
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Right on man.
Sometimes people like to share and sometimes people ask for advice and both are ok and should be respected. Often the young ones want to share and then ask for advise so I think it's normal for people who want to help, show them the mistakes or risks. It is human nature to help as long as it doesn't serve some egoic need to prove an underlying beliefs system.
I digress, happy for you, can't wait for picture of the grow.
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do you use a heat-sealer? I got one in my shopping cart at Amazon I'm about to order with a bunch of bags.
I was wondering how easy a heat-sealer is to use since you're using bags.
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Re: All-in-one grow bag [Re: SynKyd]
#26541801 - 03/17/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Congrats on the successes and sorry if you’re frustrated, people really are trying to help evolve the practice here so don’t take it personally. If you ask for advice it will come, what you do with each recommendation is certainly your choice. Hopefully you stick around and learn / adapt with the rest of us, it’s a community and all are welcome!

Thank you! I am entirely too old to take any of this personally. I had never done a grow bag before, but, if you think about it, it is not much different than the PF Tek except all of the hard work is done. I did actually do some agar stuff. (I didn't pour my own plates though. I bought a sleeve of 20 sterilized 100mm MEA plates for $20.) I ordered them online, and they were delivered right to my house. Easier! I think that if I decide to do another all-in-one, I will try a Liquid Culture inoculation. All in all, I think the experiment was a success. It may not yield a ton of shrooms, but at 10 gms a year it would take me several lifetimes to use a ton.
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Re: All-in-one grow bag [Re: AtmozFear]
#26541805 - 03/17/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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AtmozFear said: do you use a heat-sealer? I got one in my shopping cart at Amazon I'm about to order with a bunch of bags.
I was wondering how easy a heat-sealer is to use since you're using bags.
I don't have a heat sealer. I am sure that you will be able to figure it out. If you are using grow bags, I think that it would be very useful. You could also use it for storing your dried fruit in the freezer. You could keep them frozen for years.
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Re: All-in-one grow bag [Re: Sockadin]
#26541815 - 03/17/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: Right on man.
Sometimes people like to share and sometimes people ask for advice and both are ok and should be respected. Often the young ones want to share and then ask for advise so I think it's normal for people who want to help, show them the mistakes or risks. It is human nature to help as long as it doesn't serve some egoic need to prove an underlying beliefs system.
I digress, happy for you, can't wait for picture of the grow.
Yeah, I get that. It's just that there are a lot of people who have never done this stuff before, and they are so worried about contamination and they post pictures of their jars, and someone will tell them to toss them and they do! I was in a thread the other day, and someone posted a picture and there was a space between two rhyzomorphic expansions that was a little grey like mycelium was just starting on it. I have seen it a hundred times, so I pleaded with the guy to wait a couple of days to see what happens, but it was too late he tossed it on the advise of another new grower.
I will be sure to post the results of this experiment!
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Re: All-in-one grow bag [Re: Sockadin]
#26541919 - 03/18/20 01:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: It looks good. It's a fruit in bag style so the bulk sub layer is there.
Op: Not many people are gonna have experience with this style, most people seem doctrinated to me now days. "Your doing it wrong, or just do agar it is simple" I see far to often on these boards lately.
Maybe I'm just getting up there in age man, but you do you and we are here to help if you need a second opinion.
Bag looks good, hope you get enough for the final ride out of this hell hole!
How do you plan on fruiting your bag?
Check the bottom right corner. There’s both bacteria and 2 different colored myc in there. It’s white, but it’s not cube white. Also OP is spawning it to coir, so are you sure there is a substrate layer on top? Why wouldn’t he just fruit it that way if there was?
EDIT: sock you were right I just checked the original post but either way there is something sketchy in there. Even if it has substrate in it what I’m referring to is in the grain section, in the bottom right corner.
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Re: All-in-one grow bag [Re: jbgtaa]
#26567390 - 03/30/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sucksess! I declare a complete success for the all in one grow bag experiment. Here is the proof!
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First pin cluster
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Looking good!
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Congrats man. I have had poor (mold covered poor) experience with these grow kits but it sounds like you beat the odds and will be provided with everything you need. 
We will be here if you want to get back into the agar and bulk producing. Enjoy!
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They are growing up so fast! They will be ready for college pretty soon.
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Looking good! Those are healthy mushrooms.
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Re: All-in-one grow bag [Re: Sockadin]
#26575190 - 04/03/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: Looking good! Those are healthy mushrooms.
They do look pretty good. I think a couple of them might make the 50g club. My monotub is looking pretty good too.
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CocaineBuffet said: Congrats man. I have had poor (mold covered poor) experience with these grow kits but it sounds like you beat the odds and will be provided with everything you need. 
We will be here if you want to get back into the agar and bulk producing. Enjoy!
Thank you! It wasn't a complete success, I did lose one bag to bacterial infection. I attribute that to the colonization speed of the mycelium. I inoculated 5 plates from the syringe, and got only 1 colony and it grows very slowly. It is PES Amazon. I have a monotub going with PF Classic and I think it is doing ok.
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I got my first flush too last night of b+!! I also lost the second bag, not sure what happened, it seemed too dry and crumbled upon opening and placing it in the fruiting tub. The first flush was 110g, doesn't seem a lot, will dunk the block in water as suggested by the vendor for the next flush.



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Re: All-in-one grow bag [Re: mgavatar]
#26615339 - 04/20/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Seems like the 2nd bag (Mexicana) which seems dry, has sclerotia formation in it, I picked few truffles, not sure what to do next..... Maybe dunk it in water to rehydrate and that would lead to pinning...? Open to suggestions!
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