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Agar didn't solidify.
    #26589505 - 04/09/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

First time trying wbs soak plus agar. 500ml wbs soak and 10g agar agar. Let it sit over night eeven and still didn't solidify. Even extra i put in the fridge. What could be possibilities of why? Gonna scrap this batch and go back to a honey batch for now.

Edit: I also ran it through a 20 min pc run and poured it into my dishes.


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: MushCakes]
    #26589520 - 04/09/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Update. It maaay have smelled a bit sour. Would the wbs soak have to be super fresh? I had a jug in the fridge for about a week or so.


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: MushCakes]
    #26589540 - 04/09/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Sometimes the agar does not mix well with the water.

Heat solves that problem.

WBS tea will go sour but IDK how long it will keep.


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: LikeMyc]
    #26589645 - 04/09/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Are you saying you put agar in whatever you were soaking your wbs in?


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26589663 - 04/09/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Did you bring the soak water and agar to a good full boil for a couple minutes? im betting it just wasn't combined correctly.


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: Smartattack]
    #26589675 - 04/09/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

i combine the water and agar cold, and give it a stir.

it wont solidify until it is processed by heat

if it doesn't solidify or gel up at all, after processed by heat, you got a dud batch


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: Smartattack]
    #26589679 - 04/09/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry. I ran it through a PC for 20 min also and had poured it into my dishes.


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: MushCakes]
    #26589723 - 04/09/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Did you let the PC get to 15 psi before you set the 20 min clock?

Was the WBS liquid cold before going into PC?

Also do you have a photo of the agar agar package?


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: LikeMyc]
    #26589767 - 04/09/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Did you let the PC get to 15 psi before you set the 20 min clock?

Was the WBS liquid cold before going into PC?

Also do you have a photo of the agar agar package?






Yup. I heat it to boil wait 10 min put weight down wait for it start hissing consistently then start timer then let it cool to 47° before pouring.

Hmmmmm i did mix it the day before and popped it in the fridge overnight.

I have used the agar agar quite a bit before with no issues till now. Ill get a pic of it.


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: MushCakes]
    #26589772 - 04/09/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What is in the WBS solution?

I'm not sure what's going on. Try preheating it in the microwave until right before it starts to foam, then mix and repeat 2-3 times before you PC them.

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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: LikeMyc]
    #26589779 - 04/09/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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What is in the WBS solution?

I'm not sure what's going on. Try preheating it in the microwave until right before it starts to foam, then mix and repeat 2-3 times before you PC them.

Keep us updated.:thumbup:





Its the water i soaked my wbs in about a week before. Kept it in a jug in the fridge.


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: MushCakes]
    #26589807 - 04/09/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: MushCakes]
    #26589833 - 04/09/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ill try a batch tomorrow using the wbs tea and the microwave option. Ill letcha know how it goes.


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: MushCakes]
    #26591283 - 04/10/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I would test the pH of your wbs tea, agar at standard rates will not gel well at a low pH after autoclaving, if your tea is at a pH of 4 or lower you will certainly have problems with gelling after autoclaving.


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: inski]
    #26591489 - 04/10/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I would test the pH of your wbs tea, agar at standard rates will not gel well at a low pH after autoclaving, if your tea is at a pH of 4 or lower you will certainly have problems with gelling after autoclaving.






Ohhhhh great thought. Sour smell usually does mean acid too. I wonder if i put a bit of my gypsom in it it may work! Ill do a test of both today! Thank you!


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Re: Agar didn't solidify. [Re: LikeMyc]
    #26593678 - 04/11/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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inski said:
I would test the pH of your wbs tea, agar at standard rates will not gel well at a low pH after autoclaving, if your tea is at a pH of 4 or lower you will certainly have problems with gelling after autoclaving.




Quote:

LikeMyc said:
What is in the WBS solution?

I'm not sure what's going on. Try preheating it in the microwave until right before it starts to foam, then mix and repeat 2-3 times before you PC them.

Keep us updated.:thumbup:










So interesting outcome. The gypsum solidified and the microwave half solidified. Hahahahaha. Thanks for all your help on this one. I was stumped.


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