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New to growing, are these about to start pinning?
    #26589266 - 04/09/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've been using this tek: http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek
1 week into fruiting some Golden Teacher cakes. Temps around 75F, mist the walls 1-2 times a day, and fan about every 2 hours.

So this is my first go at growing and my eyes aren't familiar with what pinning should look like. How close am I to pinning? To me these cakes look like they've already started forming knots?

https://imgur.com/a/mzEgBVT

(The link shows my fruiting chamber as well.)


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Re: New to growing, are these about to start pinning? [Re: jackdo-good]
    #26589288 - 04/09/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Arent you supposed to roll that in verm? Looks yellow zone dry not red zone dry, yet.

I dont see any knots but my eyes suck.

Colonization of the myc looks healthy tho.


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Re: New to growing, are these about to start pinning? [Re: shevanel]
    #26589316 - 04/09/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I did roll completely in verm after I birthed and dunked them. However the verm either just fell off over time or became overgrown into the myc.

I did let the myc consolidate after a week of full colonization.

I'm not sure what you mean by the yellow or red zone dry though. Can you explain that?

Do you have any tips or am I just being impatient? It's only been a week so far, I know.


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Re: New to growing, are these about to start pinning? [Re: jackdo-good]
    #26589417 - 04/09/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Im under the impression that the lack of verm layer will cause your surface area to remain dry. As it appears in the pic, it is dry, but  in the yellow zone as in not consequentialy dry, yet.

You might consider re-rolling. It might pin the way it is. It might not [from becoming too dry]


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Re: New to growing, are these about to start pinning? [Re: shevanel]
    #26589427 - 04/09/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

In that case would you recommend that I re-dunk them or just lightly wet them before re-coating them in verm?


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Re: New to growing, are these about to start pinning? [Re: jackdo-good]
    #26589438 - 04/09/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They dont look like they are drying out [yellowing, shriveling, bruising] as far as i can tell. You make that assessment yourself. If dry af dunk. If not, spray and roll one side, spray and roll the other. Spray and sprinkle spots if you have to. Whatever works to coat it.

You need the verm for its casing properties. So you can mist it as it dries [evaporation] and so it can help the formation of pins.


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Re: New to growing, are these about to start pinning? [Re: jackdo-good]
    #26589444 - 04/09/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

are you following the incubator part of that tek?? if so you shouldn't. your room temps are probably fine anyways. how is that bag affixed to the top exactly? you want passive airflow at all times while retaining surface humidity. can't speak much on how to make fruiting chambers for cakes but there should be plenty of info to be found on here

might want to increase FAE?

also mist your cakes directly & don't fan. fanning every 2 hours???? bro lol. fanning doesn't really do much & you're better off relying on passive air exchange (though i do admit every now & then i will fan my tub a few times for fun after a misting lol)

i'd guess part of the reason your cakes aren't pinning is because they aren't getting evaporation from their surface as they would if you had misted them directly

& yeah it looks to me like knots are starting to form. nice!!


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Re: New to growing, are these about to start pinning? [Re: hazyhorse]
    #26589517 - 04/09/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

hazyhorse said:
are you following the incubator part of that tek?? if so you shouldn't. your room temps are probably fine anyways. how is that bag affixed to the top exactly? you want passive airflow at all times while retaining surface humidity. can't speak much on how to make fruiting chambers for cakes but there should be plenty of info to be found on here

might want to increase FAE?

also mist your cakes directly & don't fan. fanning every 2 hours???? bro lol. fanning doesn't really do much & you're better off relying on passive air exchange (though i do admit every now & then i will fan my tub a few times for fun after a misting lol)

i'd guess part of the reason your cakes aren't pinning is because they aren't getting evaporation from their surface as they would if you had misted them directly

& yeah it looks to me like knots are starting to form. nice!!




The bag fits rather loose on top of the container. Definitely room for airflow. The tek I'm following didn't add holes on the side, just a loose bag.

Granted the tek did state only fan once a day but I noticed I get mad fuzz on my myc when I wait so long. Other posts I've found here and there gave me the opinion if you see fuzz fae should be increased. To be fair though I've seen so many arguments over "don't fan too much," or "you can almost never fan too much."


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Re: New to growing, are these about to start pinning? [Re: jackdo-good]
    #26589736 - 04/09/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

'fanning' is recommended by growers who don't understand what passive FAE is and what 'fanning' doesn't do at all. Your cakes have already started the fruiting process since they're fully colonized. All you can do now is maintain high to medium high humidity (preferably a little swing between the two as to promote evaporation off the cakes which help speed up the pinning process)


Don't mist the walls just mist the cakes generously from about 1M away and let the tiny droplets settle onto the cakes as fine fine mist, this will give you the best micro climate for fruit formation. And don't worry about the cakes not being covered in verm it's not a deal breaker at all. Here's a pic to help you see how the micro climate should look on the substrate surface.

Zoom in on the pic to see the microclimate created on the surface


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Re: New to growing, are these about to start pinning? [Re: Mateja]
    #26590285 - 04/10/20 06:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Based on the replies I'm going to try not fanning so much. Stick to the tek guide I was following more closely. As well as misting the cakes directly.

I'll give it another week then consider dunking and re-rolling it in verm but I have the feeling I'm not being patient enough.

We'll see! Thanks for all the help y'all!


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