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OfflineSamalander

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Re: Company Is Trying To Create A Type Of Magic Mushroom That Never Produces A Bad Trip [Re: Zen999]
    #26580869 - 04/06/20 12:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

In my opinion, anxiety and physical discomfort that comes just before the drug effect - is good. Temperature change (chills) and other symptoms tell me that my body is adjusting to different way of functioning, and that substance is actually doing something real. All good substances like mdma and psylocibin cause this symptoms in my case, unlike amphetamine, coke etc. I dont think there is need for "light" version of mushrooms, that is limiting. Ive seen some scarry shit on mushrooms, but I wouldnt call that bad trips every time, just scarry shit that is very often as interesting as beautiful things. I had bad trip a few times, but not necesery  scary, just unpleasent in countless different ways.
zen999 I like that you mentioned the road less traveled in this subject. :thumbup: The road less traveled is  long and meandering path of full experiance rather than the middle path. Actualy it is very oposite.


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Re: Company Is Trying To Create A Type Of Magic Mushroom That Never Produces A Bad Trip [Re: Samalander] * 1
    #26583693 - 04/07/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Was having a good time when I wrote that.
The road less traveled is the middle path, the meandering you speak of is the bouncing between the extremes.. or a lesser instance of each before correction.
all are trials of the middle path are they not? The direction is surely important and is indeed a constant redirecting/learning experience. Aimlessly wandering hoping to happen upon the truth of the way in a realm of limitless folly is as described (aimless).
The middle path is not easy, for nothing of value is without trial.
I will try to condense my point.
I agree that in the incomplete dualistic context we live in with such a great "teacher and possible amnesia" nothing of value is gained by indefinitely staying on the middle path, silent and alone learning nothing no choice or objective experience.
however it is still the goal to be able to maintain this true and favorable direction and proclaim loudly, humbly not with knowledge but with wisdom from lifetimes.
If one strays the straying becomes apparent from unfavorable experience. So the direction of knowledge/wisdom is the path to life.
Not much condensing happening there but it is my hope my nonsensical ramblings will be condensed and drawn from by any warrior travelling the righteous path.
My goal of writing these scrambled thoughts is to provide insight to others And work on simplifying my thoughts/writings so they become clearer and more palatable for the layman.

"In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king."


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OfflineSamalander

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Re: Company Is Trying To Create A Type Of Magic Mushroom That Never Produces A Bad Trip [Re: Zen999]
    #26587970 - 04/09/20 04:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Man, read some Carl Jung. all in all, I think the point is we all got our way.
I have had one crazy trip in the forest when I was hanging out with snow men in the lights, and then I would go in darkness, there the hell would open and then I would go back to light all over again all night:)


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Re: Company Is Trying To Create A Type Of Magic Mushroom That Never Produces A Bad Trip [Re: Samalander]
    #26588024 - 04/09/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

oh, sorry, your zen :smile: just realized


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Re: Company Is Trying To Create A Type Of Magic Mushroom That Never Produces A Bad Trip [Re: Zen999]
    #26588036 - 04/09/20 05:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I call it "drowning in the flood"

Drowning in the flood of ideas you suddenly get when taking drugs like this.

Many of those ideas are undoubtedly brilliant and full on insight.
But at the same time it can be hard seeing where to draw a line with them... especially if you are heavily influenced by the substance itself.


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the only consistency throughout the world, and the universe is
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Re: Company Is Trying To Create A Type Of Magic Mushroom That Never Produces A Bad Trip [Re: Buckomcdoogle] * 1
    #26593282 - 04/11/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

There are a couple underlying assumptions made in the article which could be debated.  The founder of the company seems to hypothesize that a "bad trip" or negative experience is tied to the pharmacological components of the mushrooms.  I personally think Set/Setting have more to do with a "good" or "bad" trip then tertiary byproducts of metabolism of different mushrooms.  Other pharmacological agents may play some role but I would guess it is negligible.


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Re: Company Is Trying To Create A Type Of Magic Mushroom That Never Produces A Bad Trip [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #26599006 - 04/13/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Cognitive_Shift said:
There are a couple underlying assumptions made in the article which could be debated.  The founder of the company seems to hypothesize that a "bad trip" or negative experience is tied to the pharmacological components of the mushrooms.  I personally think Set/Setting have more to do with a "good" or "bad" trip then tertiary byproducts of metabolism of different mushrooms.  Other pharmacological agents may play some role but I would guess it is negligible.



^This for sure but imo certain analogues have a euphoric push to where It's more easily manageable. 4-aco-dmt and al-lad had these sort of easy to deal with tripa


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Re: Company Is Trying To Create A Type Of Magic Mushroom That Never Produces A Bad Trip [Re: sk8fast]
    #26611316 - 04/18/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

This is the future, the future is now.


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