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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26587451 - 04/08/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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That does not mean they are any less alive :p




Right but you are missing the point and drawing false equivalences


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26587454 - 04/08/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Folks Want To Stop Eating Animals & "Save Them", But The Animals Don't Feel The Same Way. They'll Eat You In A Heartbeat. I'd Kill Something & Eat It Before It Killed & Ate Me.

For Some Reason There Are People Out There That Any Animal Or Critter They See, They Think It's Got A Mind, & Feelings, It's Got Emotions & It's Got A Name & A Family & All That Stuff.


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: MpSeph]
    #26587473 - 04/08/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds pretty psychopathic to me


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26587482 - 04/08/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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OP maybe you should kill the animals yourself? Get some bunnies, bask in the cuniculture. You get cute little bunnies to hold on to and then eventually you snap it's neck or pop a pellet in to it's brain, then pull it's skin off like a sock and toss it's innards in the compost heap to help feed the next litter of bunnies. Thus, the circle completes, coming ever closer to god and you experience nature in its purest form - unmitigated growth followed by short periods of the ultraviolence. Which is also cost effective and delicious :cookiemonster:



But when you eat plants you are ripping their skin and boiling their innards as well. They were alive as well :ancientaliens:



Pretty sure plants don’t feel pain





https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/507590v4.full

The mean number of sounds emitted by drought-stressed plants was 35.4±6.1 and 11.0±1.4 per hour for tomato and tobacco, respectively, and Cut tomato and tobacco plants emitted 25.2±3.2 and 15.2±2.6 sounds per hour, respectively (Fig. 1b). In contrast, the mean number of sounds emitted by plants from all the control groups was lower than 1 per hour.



https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-record-stressed-out-plants-emitting-ultrasonic-squeals-180973716/



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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26587488 - 04/08/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

A study that hasn’t been peer reviewed, next.


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26587497 - 04/08/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Veggie bois can't handle the responsibility!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26587514 - 04/08/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Masaru Emoto type shit...


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26587515 - 04/08/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That reads more like an opinion piece rather than being rooted in fact.


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26587592 - 04/08/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, so I hate the word 'flexitarian', but I myself sort of align to that label, as I'm trying to reduce the amount of meat I eat, primarily for environmental reasons - but also ethical/anti-factory farming reasons. I don't think it's ethically wrong to be an omnivore, but my ability to stick my head in the sand about where my food comes from has been...decreasing, significantly.


It doesn't have to be all or nothing. More people eating less meat, is more impactful than fewer people eating no meat at all. That said, as far as recipes, now is a great time to get good at cooking if you're not already. Some of my favorite recipes are :

Anything falafel based. Salads, wraps, standalone. You can get a fairly easy to make mix at the store, but from scratch is obviously a whole different league in terms of taste.

Tofu! There is a wrong way and a right way to cook tofu, imo. It really needs to be drained, pressed, and dried as well as possible unless you're using it in soups - though there are some more forgiving recipes than others. I loove this Chipotle sofritas copy cat recipe.
Great for burrito bowls, and burritos, great for zucchini boats too - which is a good and flexible option in and of itself(peppers, and eggplant are also good subsitutes). Honestly braised and spiced tofu is super versatile, there's tons of very easy recipes that don't require any gadgets or anything like that. Pan fried or better yet, oven baked or air fried tofu is awesome too.




Don't be afraid of soy and meatless alternatives in stores, a lot of them are really delicious - it's healthier and cheaper to try and make your own meatless alternatives, like veggie burgers and stuff.



Also, get familiar with seitan. Seitan is glorious. Seitan is super cheap, and super easily made with just a few ingredients. Here's a good tutorial to get you started :

https://www.connoisseurusveg.com/how-to-make-seitan/




Also one of my favorite simple veg recipes, is from my Grandma, she came over from Italy as a pre-teen, was born in 1930, and it's basically peasant food, but with some good tomato sauce it's really good.

cucina povera :wink:


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26587746 - 04/09/20 12:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'll try Indian food first, seems like an easier place to start since most of their dishes are such already.

I am not sure if this is the "right thing" but I don't feel good about hurting animals anymore. Some people aren't bothered by it but I am not one of those.


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26587747 - 04/09/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Make veggie burgers. They are delicious. Also a lot of Italian dishes are veggie-friendly. Japanese Ramens/Miso Soup is also delicious.


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26587748 - 04/09/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Indian food and honestly any spice heavy cuisine is great and will blow your mind when it comes to vegetarian cuisine.


I would suggest ordering a few different spice blends like Garam Masala from Indian Markets/stores.


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26587751 - 04/09/20 12:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Make veggie burgers. They are delicious. Also a lot of Italian dishes are veggie-friendly. Japanese Ramens/Miso Soup is also delicious.




Miso is delicious, so I'll try that. Honestly it would be healthier than my current diet, and I'd feel a little bit better about not eating the animals I so love.

I mean I don't even crush cockroaches.


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    #26587759 - 04/09/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I don't either. But it's because I'm a huge wimp :lol:


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26587778 - 04/09/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well I actually love insects. My patio is crammed with spiders than have taken up residence in there and I don't want to chase them out. I also take great care not to disturb spider webs outside my home.


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26587791 - 04/09/20 12:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I love insects too, they're fascinating, and they do so much for the world ecologically.


Doesn't mean the idea of squishing one doesn't seriously freak me out :lol:


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26587794 - 04/09/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I couldn't squish one but I find myself in a bind during the occasional infestation. I love it but also I know roaches carry a lot of "filth" due to where they travel.


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26587799 - 04/09/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

They are nasty. I've spent most of my adult life living in large, dense cities, and they crawl up out of the sewers there at night, and you've got to dodge them on the sidewalks. They're in every building that's even remotely close to a downtown area too.


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26587801 - 04/09/20 01:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If I was some insect hivelord I'd be happy.


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Re: Going vegetarian [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26587804 - 04/09/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

..I'd be..perpetually grossed out.


But I guess happy, 'cause I'd be a hive lord. Pretty good gig.


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