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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Niffla]
    #26593510 - 04/11/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You don't understand why some people dislike religion?




No I completely understand why someone would not be down with religion in and of itself. I'm not either.

What I don't understand is holding a bunch of hate & anger inside for any of them. What good does that do. Then again I think holding hate inside for pretty much anyone is completely pointless.




It's like talking to a wall. Hate and anger is the only way to stop their bullshit. If we just sit here and pretend like it doesn't matter nothing will ever change! There's nothing wrong disliking ignorant and rude people.


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26593521 - 04/11/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It's like talking to a wall. Hate and anger is the only way to stop their bullshit. If we just sit here and pretend like it doesn't matter nothing will ever change! There's nothing wrong disliking ignorant and rude people.




Hate & anger solve nothing. And it's not going to change them. I would just ignore them and move on. But whatever floats your boat.


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26593533 - 04/11/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I mean it's hard to not hate them because my life is harder because of their irrational belief that me having sex with a guy is immoral when it has no impact on their own lives. I don't know how this homophobia got started but it's idiotic and I'm sick and tired of it, trying to make me feel bad for something that isn't even harmful.

But they have numbers and power and in a sense I am afraid because of that. They also have the will to do to me what I won't do to them.




Religion needs to go. If someone is over the age of 30 and they're against gay marriage I automatically assume they're mentally retarded or a complete asshole.


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Niffla]
    #26593538 - 04/11/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Niffla said:
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Shenmue said:

It's like talking to a wall. Hate and anger is the only way to stop their bullshit. If we just sit here and pretend like it doesn't matter nothing will ever change! There's nothing wrong disliking ignorant and rude people.




Hate & anger solve nothing. And it's not going to change them. I would just ignore them and move on. But whatever floats your boat.




That's such a stupid thing to say.


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26593663 - 04/11/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Shenmue said:
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Niffla said:
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Shenmue said:

It's like talking to a wall. Hate and anger is the only way to stop their bullshit. If we just sit here and pretend like it doesn't matter nothing will ever change! There's nothing wrong disliking ignorant and rude people.




Hate & anger solve nothing. And it's not going to change them. I would just ignore them and move on. But whatever floats your boat.




That's such a stupid thing to say.




Okay best of luck on your quest changing every religious person out there big guy :lol:

:youthemandawg:

Keep me posted on how it goes.


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Niffla]
    #26593972 - 04/11/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Picked up on this thread late, read last page.  Anger is a great motivator, research shows its better than positive reinforcement in the work place for productivity.  No I wont look up source, find it yourself.


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #26594101 - 04/11/20 07:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think i'll pass on looking up the source to tell me how being angry is better for me. But thanks.


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Niffla]
    #26594229 - 04/11/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I think i'll pass on looking up the source to tell me how being angry is better for me. But thanks.




That hippie attitude doesn't actually work in the real world. Hints why most of the billionaires are assholes and most of the kind people live paycheck to paycheck. Almost every boss I've ever had was a complete asshole so no I don't believe being nice gets the job done. Most nice people get picked on.. you have to put your foot down and say THAT'S ENOUGH MOTHER FUCKER!!!


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Shenmue] * 3
    #26594245 - 04/11/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Your extrapolating you’re relatively tiny life experience to the entire world and making some grand claims that all bosses and wealthy or successful individuals as being limited to one personality.  But do you really know?  Or are you pretending you know everyone in the world well enough to be sure of yourself in this proposition? (I know a couple of multimillionaires who are wholesome people and good people, living a more noble life than some others).  Just become one has ideals and similar morals and practices as a hippy, doesn’t mean they are a living door mat.  There’s nothing compassionate or wise about being one, and it’s generally only assumed to be spiritual in practice due to some error of understanding a deeply esoteric wisdom.

Niffla’s currently running the world under the guise of a shroomery mod,  the Us economy reopens when he unban it...Case closed. :witch:

:micdrop:


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26594253 - 04/11/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Here is a way to put I think all here can understand. We have emotions, negative, positive and neutral for a reason.  To decide one does not fit you're paradigm of living, is to spit in the face of the wholeness of the human being and human nature.  You are intentionally handicapping yourself, I suspect because you never learned effective coping mechanisms for anger/rage/hatred.  Those emotions do not have to lead to negative outcomes, though left unchecked with no means of dealing with them they often do.

:micdrop:


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26594258 - 04/11/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I said MOST not every!!! I talk about most Billionaires then you bring up millionaires! Do you understand the difference between a billion and a million? It's a huuuuuuuuuuge difference! Hell I have family members that are millionaire's! Most doctors I know have that kind of money. YES most middle class bosses are assholes!!! Not every boss but MOST! Most people I know would agree with that statement. I fucking hate it when people put words in my mouth.


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26594262 - 04/11/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Actually anger is good when you can harness it but bad if ruled by it. I wouldn’t call saying no to emotions spitting in the face of human nature. It’s part of human nature to suppress or control emotions

Anger gives direction without  purpose.


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Shenmue] * 2
    #26594266 - 04/11/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have the power and ability to make words into a physical sandwich, and then reach through space time to Stuff the word sandwich into your mouth.

My my, seems like.  :imspecial:


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InvisibleShenmue
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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26594272 - 04/11/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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The Blind Ass said:
I have the power and ability to make words into a physical sandwich, and then reach through space time to Stuff the word sandwich into your mouth.

My my, seems like.  :imspecial:




You don't have the ability to be a intelligent person.


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Niffla]
    #26594274 - 04/11/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Thanatos10 said:
Actually anger is good when you can harness it but bad if ruled by it. I wouldn’t call saying no to emotions spitting in the face of human nature. It’s part of human nature to suppress or control emotions

Anger gives direction without  purpose.




Sorry if it was unclear I was replying to this


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Niffla said:
I think i'll pass on looking up the source to tell me how being angry is better for me. But thanks.




Which makes it seem he rejects anger inherently.

MY statements and your's are essentially the same, anger, when controlled is important.  Infinitely suppressed I can only imagine oft time leads to greater negative outcomes than if expressed in the moment.


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Ice9]
    #26594280 - 04/11/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:imspecial: Ralph is always special


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Ice9] * 3
    #26594285 - 04/11/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't believe he was rejecting anger inherently. He was rejecting your snarky suggestion that he look up studies that had nothing to do with anything he was saying.


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #26594296 - 04/11/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

He said hate and anger solve nothing, I pointed out the anger can solve a lack of motivation.  Unsure how that is snarky or off topic.


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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Ice9] * 2
    #26594307 - 04/11/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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He said hate and anger solve nothing, I pointed out the anger can solve a lack of motivation.  Unsure how that is snarky or off topic.



He was referring to it solving nothing in regards to hating on religious people in general because of bad experiences in upbringing. Harnessing onto that hate with no positive outcome or eventual release that normally comes from directed anger doesn't solve anything was what he was referring to.

The snarky bit was here:

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No I wont look up source, find it yourself.




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Re: Whats your opinion? [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26594330 - 04/11/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hug an angry man and you will see he is crying :dontdothat:
That is, if he doesn’t punch you in the face first.
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Shenmue said:
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The Blind Ass said:
I have the power and ability to make words into a physical sandwich, and then reach through space time to Stuff the word sandwich into your mouth.

My my, seems like.  :imspecial:




You don't have the ability to be a intelligent person.




That’s unfortunate.  What should I do now? I’m currently stuck against a wall, how do I get unstuck? Advice please.


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