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Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended?
#26585909 - 04/08/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Trump issued a lockdown until April 30th, though some states have issued longer lockdowns. Do you think it will be extended as a nation?
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Billy Ray] 2
#26586125 - 04/08/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, this thing isn't going away in 3 weeks. It's going to be MUCH longer.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26586165 - 04/08/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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We are not even through the first part of the 2nd quarter yet, then 2-3 weeks after Easter it will explode again is my prediction. Then as the food supply starts to get hit, which it is right now, and possibly break down; many will start showing there true colors.
I would expect another wave of panic buying as well coupled with 60% having Easter as normal. It is going to be a domino effect.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
#26586177 - 04/08/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So many small business's here are struggling. including the one i work for.
Its sad to see. idk how much longer some business's can last with no foot traffic/sales but still got rent and overhead to pay.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Herbologist]
#26586206 - 04/08/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It will be extended, and there will be pretty much mass hysteria by the end of April.
So far, covid has been relatively limited to cities, but over the last week, it's started spreading to rural areas. Rural areas that have even worse access to medical resources. For now, it's mostly hitting marginalized populations and rural minorities, but it will rapidly spread to rural whites.
This means that it will start hitting Republicans, which are going to be very, very confused. They will need answers, and so Fox news will give them answers. Probably blame the cities and Democrats for "hoarding" all the medical supplies. Now, remember that Fox News is the biggest of the many mass media companies in the US, which is why you will see straight up hysteria. Instead of ~30% of US media freaking out about covid, it will be the full 100% as soon as Fox joins in.
Small businesses are universally fucked. Get out while you can. If you're an owner, sell it to the big conglomerate now, because you're gonna sell it for pennies on the dollar in a month. If you're a big conglomerate, or have a pile of cash on hand (like me) you should wait as long as possible and then start buying up cheap property once people start having to choose between mortgages and food.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26586208 - 04/08/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It will be extended but people are overestimating who really gets locked down. In Illinois bars and restaurants are closed, as is public gatherings. But employers can do what they want. My friend works at Weathertech which makes auto floor mats and cell phone holders that fit into cup holders. The company is doing really well. My friend was off work for 2 weeks with pay but they reopened this last Monday. No argument can be made that it's an essential industry.
In Wisconsin however, they are forcing nonessential businesses to close.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Kryptos]
#26586213 - 04/08/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some business publication just estimated that 43% of small businesses will go under.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26586217 - 04/08/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: Some business publication just estimated that 43% of small businesses will go under.
That's probably an underestimate. They're either trying to soften the blow as with the stock market crash, or they're in abject disbelief.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Brian Jones]
#26586218 - 04/08/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shelter in place is designed to limit the spread.
Everything I've heard about treatment or vaccination sounds to be quite a few months out, possibly a year and that's no guarantee.
So I don't see what is going to be different by the end of April...
If shelter in place is necessary now, it seems that it'll be necessary until some treatment or vaccination is figured out. Who knows when that'll be.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: RyeHumor]
#26586222 - 04/08/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Best case timeline for a vaccine would be around 18 months, based on people that actually know their shit (Dr. Fauci, my virologist buddy).
Shelter in place will end before the virus does (but later than it has to go, due to hysteria), and I'd say 50/50 chance that from now on we have a winter flu season and a spring/summer coronavirus season.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#26586246 - 04/08/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: Trump issued a lockdown until April 30th, though some states have issued longer lockdowns. Do you think it will be extended as a nation?
Trump hasn’t issued anything. Wtf are you talking about.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: koods]
#26586275 - 04/08/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said:
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Billy Ray said: Trump issued a lockdown until April 30th, though some states have issued longer lockdowns. Do you think it will be extended as a nation?
Trump hasn’t issued anything. Wtf are you talking about.
You got me.
Social distancing guidelines
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26586874 - 04/08/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Depends on the numbers.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: koods]
#26591891 - 04/10/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: Trump issued a lockdown until April 30th, though some states have issued longer lockdowns. Do you think it will be extended as a nation?
Trump hasn’t issued anything. Wtf are you talking about.
Social Distancing Dood: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/29/politics/trump-coronavirus-press-conference/index.html
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#26592662 - 04/11/20 03:46 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: Trump issued a lockdown until April 30th, though some states have issued longer lockdowns. Do you think it will be extended as a nation?
Look at the reality. The only way to effectively control the virus is to get cases down to 0. From there we need to continue heavy restrictions and monitoring to ensure nobody brings it in or gets reinfected. We basically have to do that until a vaccine is widely distributed. Short of that, opening up will only cause the virus to cause havoc yet again. Most likely scenario: We'll be seeing some kind of lockdown or restrictions well into 2021.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Darwin23]
#26592754 - 04/11/20 05:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just to clarify, the poster you quoted has already backed down on his claim that Trump shut anything down, after Koods refuted that statement. The Governors of most states have shut them down, to one extent or another, but mainly it's just bars and restaurants.
While keeping things shut down until we have a vaccine would be wise medically, it would economically be the worst disaster in American history, and Trump's trying to get reelected. It's a tough call.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Brian Jones]
#26593211 - 04/11/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: While keeping things shut down until we have a vaccine would be wise medically, it would economically be the worst disaster in American history, and Trump's trying to get reelected. It's a tough call.
If you were to make a recommendation to Trump, what would you tell him? To me it's easy, but I'll save my reply for later.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26593227 - 04/11/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Kill yourself, or in the alternative, resign and run off to live the rest of your life in obscurity."
That'd be my recommendation, assuming that he wants to do the right thing.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Enlil]
#26593348 - 04/11/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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How would that eliminate the current economic disaster?
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26593409 - 04/11/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It wouldn't. One shouldn't need an economic incentive to do the right thing.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Enlil]
#26593429 - 04/11/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Welp, I got canned yesterday and, unless those checks get here by the 15th, my landlord ain’t getting paid. My job wasn’t clinical, but I worked in healthcare. No one is safe, unless you’re a nurse/doctor. I’m thinking about going to work at a hospital, but they don’t even let those workers go home. They put you up in a hotel, most of which is used to house infected patients.  I’d gladly work the double-shifts, nights, w.e., but I’ll go crazy being indoors for what could be months. Plus, I’d probably get COVID and I hear being a smoker increases risk of complications.
I hope Trump flips out and orders everything to reopen. Otherwise, idk how we’ll make it... Yes, I know more people would die, but I’m not exactly in the position to feel guilty about it.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: feldman114]
#26593432 - 04/11/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Smokers deserve to die anyway.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: feldman114]
#26593471 - 04/11/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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feldman114 said: Yes, I know more people would die, but I’m not exactly in the position to feel guilty about it.
Why not volunteer then? If more people are gonna die, why not you?
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Kryptos]
#26593495 - 04/11/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm not sure it works that way. If he volunteers, he'll just be one more who dies. It's not like he can take someone else's place.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Enlil]
#26593557 - 04/11/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I’m sorry, but it’s suuuuper hard to be charitable while broke.
My priorities have never shifted so fast lol. I’m an asshole for jumping to self-preservation, but at least I got a good look in the mirror out of it.🤷🏻♂️ Yesterday I was worried about all those poor folks affected by COVID; today I’m worried about making rent.
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#26593560 - 04/11/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You should focus on filing for unemployment ASAP
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#26593603 - 04/11/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh shit! I assumed I wasn’t eligible cause I was technically on a probationary period (newish job), but it looks like the COVID law even covers temps so I’m golden, right?
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: feldman114]
#26593606 - 04/11/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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feldman114 said: I’m sorry, but it’s suuuuper hard to be charitable while broke.
My priorities have never shifted so fast lol. I’m an asshole for jumping to self-preservation, but at least I got a good look in the mirror out of it.🤷🏻♂️ Yesterday I was worried about all those poor folks affected by COVID; today I’m worried about making rent.
It's a very fine line that separates those that have from those that don't. People call me an asshole because I don't donate to disaster relief. Well, I pay taxes into the disaster relief fund. Not my problem the government decided that trans people using bathrooms was a natural disaster and spent their funding on that.
As Enlil said. Get your unemployment in order, yesterday. It's gonna be a shitty process, it will be demoralizing, and people will likely look at you like human trash while you're getting your paperwork sorted.
It's like telling a group of people that you're quitting smoking. Most will say "oh, cool! good for you!" and move on. A few will look at you with an almost fearful gaze, and quietly say something like "good luck, man". That's how you know who's been a smoker and who hasn't.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Kryptos]
#26593632 - 04/11/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its not like your lazy or decided to leave your job. This is happening to millions of people and getting laid off secondary to a Pandemic is out of your control. You shouldn't feel bad for filing for unemployment in these extreme circumstances.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Misconception] 2
#26593814 - 04/11/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You shouldn't feel bad filing for unemployment at any time...
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Kryptos]
#26597766 - 04/13/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just received The Weekend tickets in the mail.
Concert isn't until August im wondering if its even gonna happen. Bought the tickets months ago before all this
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Herbologist]
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Lol, dude...you got scammed so hard. You didn't notice the band's name was misspelled on the tickets?
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its a person not a band
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Herbologist]
#26597815 - 04/13/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You don't even know how to spell his name, though
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26598336 - 04/13/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Id suggest to Trump that we should scare Mexico with covid 19 propaganda with fake stories about how illegals are dying in concentration camps and we're all happy to see them die. Maybe then they wont keep trying to sneak in.
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Mexico already closed the border with the US, because they didn't want people from the US to cross and bring disease.
Turns out Mexico built the wall, and WE paid for it!
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Kryptos]
#26599546 - 04/14/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you don't extend the lockdowns:
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Asante]
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That's a movie I haven't seen in a while, and hope to never see again. Especially that one scene where they make a zombie baby.
Feels like that's what it's gonna take to get rid of the boomers, though.
I read an article the other day about how millennials were entitled because they were talking about how another housing crash might actually make houses affordable, and the author thought that was extremely insensitive because boomers like him would lose money on their investments. The whole thing read like a parody, to be honest.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Kryptos]
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I guess one should start a boomer thread, class warfare or something else?
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said: That's a movie I haven't seen in a while, and hope to never see again. Especially that one scene where they make a zombie baby.
Feels like that's what it's gonna take to get rid of the boomers, though.
I read an article the other day about how millennials were entitled because they were talking about how another housing crash might actually make houses affordable, and the author thought that was extremely insensitive because boomers like him would lose money on their investments. The whole thing read like a parody, to be honest.
You will be rid of most of us.
In 2050.
The real problem with affordable houses is that they haven't built many of them the last 40 years. I'm not sure why that is but I'm guessing it's top 1% decision.
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Brian Jones said: The real problem with affordable houses is that they haven't built many of them the last 40 years. I'm not sure why that is but I'm guessing it's top 1% decision.
Do you mean something subsidized by the Government? Here in the Bay Area, land is worth more than the houses on them, so people would struggle just to buy an empty lot.
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Brian Jones said: While keeping things shut down until we have a vaccine would be wise medically, it would economically be the worst disaster in American history, and Trump's trying to get reelected. It's a tough call.
If you were to make a recommendation to Trump, what would you tell him? To me it's easy, but I'll save my reply for later.
So no response on how to avoid an economic disaster? It's really quite simple, and the solution is now being proposed by Congress. However, I doubt they care enough about Main St to pass it:
Jayapal Proposes Layoff Prevention Plan as the Fed Expands Corporate Aid With No Employment Strings
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Under Jayapal’s Paycheck Guarantee Act, companies that are either completely shut down or significantly harmed by the coronavirus crisis could receive federal support for 100 percent of wages for workers earning salaries up to $100,000. The proposal would provide this assistance for three months, with possible monthly extensions.
This would be a win-win for workers and employers. Workers would continue to receive their pay and employer-sponsored health benefits. Once the economic recovery kicks in, employers would avoid the costs associated with recruiting and training new employees.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Kryptos said: That's a movie I haven't seen in a while, and hope to never see again. Especially that one scene where they make a zombie baby.
Feels like that's what it's gonna take to get rid of the boomers, though.
I read an article the other day about how millennials were entitled because they were talking about how another housing crash might actually make houses affordable, and the author thought that was extremely insensitive because boomers like him would lose money on their investments. The whole thing read like a parody, to be honest.
You will be rid of most of us.
In 2050.
The real problem with affordable houses is that they haven't built many of them the last 40 years. I'm not sure why that is but I'm guessing it's top 1% decision.
It's not just a 1% decision. It's a homeowner decision. So, once again, largely boomers.
Increasing supply will cause the price to drop, which is why homeowners, HOAs, and other such organizations have a tendency to resist any sort of rezoning to build more housing.
As far as being boomers...you're not all bad, just...many of you are.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Kryptos]
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Millennials are in a position to understand and criticize the older generations, more than any other previous generation. Not saying that some of the criticism isn't valid....it is very different, though.
I mostly had rabbit ears to get the news(and radio). I has borne in the 70s, no platform like you all.
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Do you mean something subsidized the Government? Here in the Bay Area, land is worth more than the houses on them, so people would struggle just to buy an empty lot.
Yes, location is the central variable in real estate value, and I didn't even get into that. I was just thinking about the construction of houses that are mainly McMansions and not enough basic 3 bedroom ranch houses. Then there is the related issue that when houses are affordable people can afford to live there that other people don't want to associate with.
In the Chicago area (and probably a lot of other places) transportation is a big issue and towns that aren't even that nice (like my hometown) are getting expensive just because they're on the right roads. To dig myself out of the hole I got into a few years ago I moved 45 minutes farther away. I'm paying $500 including utilities and streaming channels to share a house. Financially it's great and it's convenient to my job, but 2-3 nights a week I'm driving long distances to socialize (drink, etc. with my friends) so that's a gamble that might go bad.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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If you were to make a recommendation to Trump, what would you tell him? To me it's easy, but I'll save my reply for later.
It would depend on what extent they are willing to aid regular people. I remember you posting somebody's plan of giving everyone 3 months pay to stay home, but I can't find that now. That's a good idea, but I don't see the U.S. going for it. They're going to do a patchwork plan of this and that, that will mainly benefit the rich, and will end up costing more. We're going to be mortgaged to the hilt, which will of course be the reason we have to keep destroying the environment. People with environmentally caused respiratory issues are already contributing to the covid-19 death rate, besides the very high numbers who die from it every year, that we pay little attention to.
There are a few practical issues with the 3 months pay idea. First, the earlier it started the more effective it would be, but the politicians wouldn't dole out that kind of money until things are already bad. Second, we don't know if 3 months will be enough, but it sounds like a good estimate. Third, a lot of people work under the table. Normally, a good argument may be made that they shouldn't get government benefits. Obviously that doesn't apply to this situation. I can't remember, but I think the proposal you mentioned would cover them.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Brian Jones]
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I think if the US let all restrictions go now, you'd have several million new cases in a month.
It would be a profoundly bad idea.
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It would be a profoundly bad idea.
Yet, we're stupid enough to do it.
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Here it is.
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It's a great idea that many other countries are implementing, but you're right, the US Government is bought by Wall St.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: qman]
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It would be a profoundly bad idea.
Yet, we're stupid enough to do it.
Dumpty just called on his supporters to 'liberate' MN, MI, and VA.
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It would be a profoundly bad idea.
Yet, we're stupid enough to do it.

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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Asante]
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We about to see a situation where trump supporters are going to self select themselves out of the voting pool and gene pool. Trump can’t afford to have 1% of his base die in the next six months.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: koods]
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koods said: We about to see a situation where trump supporters are going to self select themselves out of the voting pool and gene pool. Trump can’t afford to have 1% of his base die in the next six months.
Why not? Having 1% of his base die in the next six months would work out great.
He can blame it on democratic states hogging all the medical supplies, tell his base to "punish them for their greed", and use either the violence or the deaths as an excuse to set up poll watchers (which is now legal, as the ruling banning hiring big armed dudes, especially ex-police or ex-military, to watch you vote got overturned). Then, a few strategic GOP controlled states cancel elections and assign their electors to donnie, and the poll watchers eke out the victory.
Ya know, for safety.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Kryptos]
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This is probably the calm before the storm our second wave will probably hit in the fall.
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We haven't even hit our peak yet:
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: feldman114]
#26608759 - 04/17/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You didnt even bother to check if you could get unemployment before saying fuck everybody? Jesus.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Oops, wrong chart. That was deaths. Here is total number of cases:

Maybe we have peaked.
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Declines come much slower than growth. We’ll be seeing 1500+ deaths a day for quite a while. Today is the worst day yet. 2600 deaths. Over 1000 in New York
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: koods]
#26608847 - 04/17/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The deaths curve is definitely still going up.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Besides masks, shortened hours, and less people allowed in the stores, things seem ok. I went to Wal-Mart with my mask. Seeds are out, bought some 'non esentials'.
The good people would rather risk the virus than cower. I thought we'd suit up and use the 'dont be a jerk' thing that actually works abd makez 90% of people want to listen and join in.
I heard California's numbers could be because they were exposed in November. Considering its proximity and the amount of asian travel. How could we not see the deaths though?
The US didnt ever have the infrastructure to react to this sort of thing governmentally. We were safw for so long. Germany is surrounded by great nations, especially Switzerland They needed a government that could react effectively if transistria decides its their turn
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I caught something pretty bad in December. But to your point we never saw the deaths. So I'm guessing it wasn't corona.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: feldman114]
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feldman114 said: Welp, I got canned yesterday and, unless those checks get here by the 15th, my landlord ain’t getting paid. My job wasn’t clinical, but I worked in healthcare. No one is safe, unless you’re a nurse/doctor. I’m thinking about going to work at a hospital, but they don’t even let those workers go home. They put you up in a hotel, most of which is used to house infected patients.  I’d gladly work the double-shifts, nights, w.e., but I’ll go crazy being indoors for what could be months. Plus, I’d probably get COVID and I hear being a smoker increases risk of complications.
I hope Trump flips out and orders everything to reopen. Otherwise, idk how we’ll make it... Yes, I know more people would die, but I’m not exactly in the position to feel guilty about it.
When you say "No one is safe, unless you're a nurse/doctor", I'm assuming you mean safe from unemployment. Most of the people I know are working; 3 are nurses. Get a job at Amazon. I'm picking up another 11 hour extra shift next Friday for $400 gross. If you want something easier, I'm seeing help wanted signs a lot at groceries and other food places that are open.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Brian Jones]
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I’m still not able to even reach the NY unemployment line. It just goes to a “due to high volume of calls...call back at a later time” message.
NYC could have been home to an Amazon HQ, but nooooo, we just HAD to be the freedom warriors who are more worried about the environment than unemployment. The sad part is, I’m only half-joking...
I tried to dust off my copywriting chops, but it turns out I’m late to the party. Demand for freelancers took a nosedive and, at 3c/word, there’s no way to make a living out of it anymore.
The $2400 we got from Unvle Sam will get us through April. If I don’t find something by then, it’s ski-mask o’clock, yo. ...jk, I’m not much of a gangster will prolly go back to the grease scene though...meth is recession-proof.
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#26615770 - 04/20/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: So no response on how to avoid an economic disaster? It's really quite simple, and the solution is now being proposed by Congress. However, I doubt they care enough about Main St to pass it:
Jayapal Proposes Layoff Prevention Plan as the Fed Expands Corporate Aid With No Employment Strings
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We could avoid a return to Great Depression-era unemployment rates if we follow European models and tie business assistance to preserving jobs.
Under Jayapal’s Paycheck Guarantee Act, companies that are either completely shut down or significantly harmed by the coronavirus crisis could receive federal support for 100 percent of wages for workers earning salaries up to $100,000. The proposal would provide this assistance for three months, with possible monthly extensions.
This would be a win-win for workers and employers. Workers would continue to receive their pay and employer-sponsored health benefits. Once the economic recovery kicks in, employers would avoid the costs associated with recruiting and training new employees.
Bernie's now on board with this:
'Congress Must Cover Paychecks of Every US Worker,' Says Sanders as Laid-Off Americans Struggle to Obtain Benefits "Our job now is to join the rest of the industrialized world and pass the Paycheck Security Act."
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A furloughed German worker retains 90-100% of his salary, while his American counterpart is struggling to obtain unemployment benefits. Unacceptable," Sanders tweeted
Why can't the US be like the rest of the world? Because our congress is bought by Wall St.
I say it's time to vote out anyone who's not a progressive - whether Democrat or Republican.
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Re: Will coronavirus lockdown in US be extended? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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So is anyone parting out on the stimulus check---due to the lockdown?
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