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An introduction and My experience with Mushrooms and Panic Attacks * 2
    #26585367 - 04/08/20 01:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hi all, this was supposed to be a short intro and description of my first trip.
It's turned into a novel/stream of consciousness recollections.

I hope its an interesting read and perhaps gives you something to relate to.
It’s been cathartic to write.

It's good to be back on the shroomery after about an 8-year gap.
I had a different account back in the day but I had it on some bogus email
that I lost track of.

The first time I visited the site I ended up getting some great advice and
followed the pf tek to grow some wonderful B+ cubbies.

Due to timing issues that first grow, we ended up harvesting what we could from
the pins and I guess what you would call truffles? The coral looking growths with no head.

Anyhow, we ended up with about 11 grams of pins each and had some fun with it.
Actually it was such a wonderful transformative experience that I've felt the
benefits to this day. It was an experience that I love to share and honestly
hope to be able to build on in the near future.

To preface, some background on myself:

In general, I feel it’s safe to say that I maintain a positive outlook on life,
and the few times I feel depressed (it runs in the family) I still feel I am
able to recognize the symptoms and course correct through lifestyle and habit changes.

The one challenge I have faced since childhood is panic attacks. It was so bad up
until the age of, I want to say 13, I could not be out of sight from another human
being without experiencing an earth-shattering panic attack. Ever seen the movie I Am Legend?
I still can’t tell you why but that is how I would experience it. If there wasn’t another human
sole around (I did not even need to know or like them) I started panicking with the feeling that
I was the last human on Earth and that was terrifying.

Due to the nature of panic attacks, they don’t really need to make logical sense, yet still,
we try to rationalize them. For me, the thought processes accompanying the fear had to do with
not feeling confident in my ability to survive on my own, and even if I could there was fear that
I didn’t know what life would be like without human interaction.

Through work with therapists and a little bit of desensitization in the form of exposure, I was
been able to get past the debilitating attacks and get it down to low-level anxiety with a few
spikes most often when feeling otherwise stressed or tired.

Throughout high school, I tried smoking weed, really not for me. Often times it felt ok at best
and anxiety-provoking at worst ( I would get into a negative feedback loop listening to my heartbeat),
most of the time it just felt mildly annoying and waiting for the effects to wear off so I didn’t feel
like a mental midget. Also I get super congested, it’s weird. The only time it felt good was when I
made an everyday habit of it and got used to the effects and that didn’t seem right to me.

Next, I tried coke. As I’m sure anyone who’s tried it knows it feels great, especially at first.
Interestingly I didn’t feel any anxiety, felt productive, energetic, and generally euphoric.
Best of all, in my opinion, was that the affects were short-lived, so I felt that I could meter
my experience. Only did it for about a month, but that was enough, I quickly overdid it and found
myself possibly overdosing? Hard to say I did an 8-ball in ten minutes and was getting cotton mouth
like a mfer. Anxiety kicked in big time and I thought I was going to die. I got through the night by
talking to a friend on the phone all night (still can’t thank them enough, we ended up dating for a while after).
After that, I was sure that the stuff had been much stronger than anything I’d had before. But I digress,
the important part is that I swore off anything mind-altering and especially anything I couldn’t verify
the contents of myself.

About nine years ago I decided that mushrooms were something I wanted to try. I had never tried
psychedelics before and had heard great things (and terrible things) from friends about them.
Mushrooms were particularly interesting because I felt that by growing them myself I could control
the inputs and feel relatively good about what I would be putting into my body. Sure there are
things as an amateur growing random fungi from a syringe you hope has the right stuff is a risk
but really with all the information that the shroomery provided, I was comfortable. So I got to it!
Honestly, the process of researching and cultivating was fulfilling in and of itself.

By this time my anxiety was down to levels that allowed me to live alone and function normally in society.
I felt comfortable being alone in familiar settings such as home, however, I still found myself going to
great lengths to avoid being alone in unfamiliar places.

My friend and I harvested the pins we could from the cakes the night before we had to leave town and
I gobbled them up, washing them down with some OJ.

I was nervous, last time I had taken anything I had been convinced I was going to die and was worried
about having a psychedelic friggin anxiety attack for several hours.

What resulted was…. Nothing for quite a while. I will admit, from what I have come to understand 11g
of fresh pins should be about equivalent to 1.1g so it wouldn’t be very much at all. Having given up
on the trip I decided to hit the computer and browse through the shroomery, ended up getting onto couchsurfing.org,
(its a wonderful site, or at least it was back when I used it) to talk to people that would be hosting me during my
travels. That’s when I noticed my fingers were growing right the f out of my peripherals lol.

I had been so anxious about the come up and so used to how disoriented I feel on weed that I didn’t even notice.
Honestly the visuals were so mild that I can’t even be 100% sure they were there or if it was the placebo effect.
They were sort of there, but I could see through them at the same time? It felt like I could observe and enjoy them
if I wanted but dismiss them at will.

Does that sound common for a low dose trip or does that sound more like wishful thinking/placebo?

Anyhow the real revelation came when I decided to go out for a walk by myself. I walked out onto the street at night,
looking down the road at the street lamps was trippy, ended up looking like I was sandwiched between two mirrors
looking at reflections of the world. The streetlights looked like they continued onto infinity in both directions.
After walking for a few minutes I realized something incredible, I wasn’t anxious, not even a little. What I had
previously thought was anxiety-free didn’t even come close to how calm and blissful I felt at that time. I spent
rest of the night trying to subject myself to my usual triggers (I don’t know why I thought that was such a great
idea but I’m glad I did it) only to find that it was impossible for me to experience anxiety from them. Don’t get
me wrong I wasn’t ready to do something dumb like the jump of a bridge to see if I could fly, but it was a very
liberating feeling.

I think the noetic quality came in at this point because I had a realization, I don’t have to be scared in these
situations. I know that seems incredibly straight forward, yet when you experience panic attacks logic ain’t exactly
up to the task of calming you down ( actually breathing exercises work better than anything I’ve encountered FYI).
I had long before coming to the conclusion that my fears were not reasonable but I would have a panic reaction anyhow.

Now I’m not going to say that I took a low dose of mushrooms once and was cured of all that ailed me. I will, however,
say that after that trip my anxiety attacks were decreased by about 80% in frequency and intensity and that holds to
this day.

During the trip, I also had the feeling that I could brush away the judgments I perceived from other people in my life
and focus on what mattered to me. My ego was very much intact, but I was able to prioritize my life and felt incredibly
uplifted and positive about my new outlook. It leads me to some wonderful experiences and I felt I was able to really commit
to my new goals because they felt beneficial to myself and those around me.

This brings me to the present day.

Now my anxiety is in check, for the most part. I hardly notice it unless I’m anxious about getting lost somewhere
unfamiliar or the real pain in my ass, a phobia of elevators (only if I’m alone in the tin box) again I don’t know why,
but it is what it is. More importantly, the pressures of work-life etc are starting to weigh in on me. I don’t think it’s
a symptom of my physical environment so much as my mind. I’ve been listening to books like “Change Your Mind” and generally
trying to get my life in order, organized, quit procrastinating (that parts not working yet by the way). It’s got me
interested in trying to do more self-work with mushrooms.

I’m already well into a grow but along with procuring my supplies for this pf tek grow with GT and B+.
I already have mushies donated by the friend that helped me get my setup going, but I’ve been hesitating to trip.
For one I don’t want to treat them like some magic pill that will do all the self-work for me (doubt that’s gonna
happen a second time). Second I want to reduce my stress so I’m not anxious about being able to take the time and
energy needed to work through what I need to. Mostly I’m still worried about going “too far” on this next trip so
I’ve been hming and hawing about what dose to go with.

My plan, for now, is to try and get my to-do list checked off and section off a weekend for self-work.
It’s been nice to get this all down somewhere. If you have any comments, suggestions, or relatable stories please share,
I’d love to hear it.

-RH


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Re: An introduction and My experience with Mushrooms and Panic Attacks [Re: RyeHumor] * 1
    #26585403 - 04/08/20 01:46 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:teddyshrooms:  :cheers: :heart:


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Re: An introduction and My experience with Mushrooms and Panic Attacks [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26585420 - 04/08/20 01:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ty! :cheers:


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Re: An introduction and My experience with Mushrooms and Panic Attacks [Re: RyeHumor]
    #26585630 - 04/08/20 06:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for sharing man. I think there are a lot people in the same boat.


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Re: An introduction and My experience with Mushrooms and Panic Attacks [Re: BooShow] * 1
    #26585727 - 04/08/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've found that for myself, anxiety attacks are a great guide to show me what I need to work on most. Mushrooms help to slam home the message

There's probably not many things worse than a thought loop panic attack while still in the early/mid stages of a hefty trip though


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Re: An introduction and My experience with Mushrooms and Panic Attacks [Re: feevers]
    #26586201 - 04/08/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah they definitely do seem to highlight the areas that need work I agree.

The unfortunate aspect of feedback lookps are that really they become the fear of having a panic attack for me. So even
though my triggers have diminished in their intensity there's still that slight fear that a panic attack will occur.

Luckily breathing techniques and meditation really seem to work for the most part. It's less effective but still useful
for me to accept that what will be will be. I remember sailing with a friend that was absolutely terrified of the Ocean.
Turned sheet white. Eventually he was able to snap out of it and he looked at us and said "I'm already dead". Sounded a
little mellow dramatic at the time but it really boils down to accepting that your personal "worst case scenario" is what
it is. In other words control what you can and let go of what you can't.

For anyone truly interested in addressing anxiety attacks I can recommend an audio book called "Rewire Your Anxious Brain".
Now I find self help books such as this a bit patronizing, but it does have some useful information. First and foremost that
logic really isn't your main route to dealing with anxiety.

That trip really interested me in that before I always felt that I was applying this thought process and breathing techniques,
but the anxiety always felt like it was lurking in the background ready to pounce if I got off my game. On the mushrooms it
removed even that shred of anticipation and replaced it with euphoria and excitement. I was totally convinced that I would
not panic in that moment.

-RH


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