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1st bad trip, possible food poisoning
    #26585105 - 04/07/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It's my first post here, so first and foremost, Hello everyone! I had some time, as most of us do now a days, so I decided to share a shroom story that was the scariest night of my life. Right after high school, we found a great plug for shrooms. We would indulge almost every weekend, a group of at least 4, for most of the first summer. Fantastic. The shrooms, The friends, we had a great spot at my friends apartment. One of the best summers of my life. Time moves on, Person becomes people, life takes over, plugs dry up. About 15 years later, I find a new plug. Without hesitation, like seeing a roll of toilet paper or lysol at shoprite, I buy as much as I can, which at the time was an OZ. I did about 2.5g, because I was nervous, by myself in my apartment, Smooth and enjoyable. About a month later,I had an eighth. Possibly, the best trip of my life. The trees in my backyard were like a kaleidoscope. Inside my room, within the color-changing lights of a novelty lamp, I saw paisley patterns swirling when the chorus to ELO's Telephone Line began. Sometime after the trip, I decided, from lack of knowing better, to put the remaining 6/8th's in the refrigerator. Some time had passed, and I again decided to take another 3.5g. Now, I must admit to sometimes portraying the sterotypical bachelor, in which my fridge isn't always the cleanest. Sometimes food sits inside a little longer than it should. Cross-contamination had never crossed my mind at this point, because I never get sick off anything that comes out of the fridge, but as old food got tossed out, and new food put in, and old food tossed out, the shrooms remained inside. Anyway, I eat the mushrooms, on an empty stomach, at about 6:30pm, which is routine. I then have a cup of tea, also routine. The combination of the empty stomach and the hot tea make the come up start in around 15-20 minutes for me. Everything starts good. The come up is normal. I start to get a pretty cool 3-D-ish effect on the edges of things. I feel I am just about at the apex of the come up, about to drop into a fun ride. I roll and smoke a blunt, listening to Dark Side of the Moon. after I smoke. I become super restless, by low on energy. My mind was racing, but no clear thoughts. I kept having a familiar feeling, like everything I was about to do, or was doing, I had already done. At this point, the trip was coming on very intensely. Then I felt discomfort in my guts, like cramping. I thought to myself, It's just hitting me hard all at once, in my head and my stomach. If I calm down and sort my thoughts I'll be OK, but the discomfort got worse. At this point I felt near peak. I thought, maybe I can go to the bathroom and shit, and I will feel better. I got up and within 5-10 seconds in was drenched head to to in sweat. Then I got very confused. I couldn't concentrate enough to determine if these were the shrooms or something else, indescribable confusion. I tried to shit, nothing. I tried to make my self throw up, nothing. But I don't even know how many times because I couldn't remember if I tried 2 seconds prior, I had no short term memory for probably 30 minutes. I was in the bathroom for about an hour, and I basically crawled to my bed and colapsed face first onto it.I was so weak and sooo tired, like I could fall asleep imediately, forever. That is the point I got terrified. The fog lifted in my brain enough for me to realize I shouldn't be able to sleep on shrooms. All those restless nights trying to fall asleep after tripping. Laying there, staring at the back of my eyes for hours...My body wanted sleep so much, but I felt like if I did go to sleep, I might not wake. So, I fought it. I thought about calling 911, but I have 2 plants that most of the country still deems illegal.About an hour after fighting it, the sleepiness started to subside, and I was left with a bad trip, but luckily it was towards the end. It was the first time in my life while tripping that I thought, I want this to be over, and not only over, but, now. Immediately. 5 minutes ago. Finally, I came out of it and the best part, I woke up the next day to tell about it. Don't Store Shrooms In The Fridge!!!!!!!


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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poisoning [Re: potc] * 1
    #26585176 - 04/07/20 10:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I just wrote a huge dissemination of your post but my internet went out.  So here’s my blah fuck it take.

It sounds like you had an awful experience and it was very tough, :heart:, been there and I know it.

Anyways, read your own post (I did and that’s a feat), and it becomes clear where your problem lies. Also, I think I know you from somewhere on the forums, bad trips are normal man, don’t be ashamed.

Hints.  As to what happened ...

Dsotm- lyrics - All your life will ever be
Cannabis - anxiety and memory impairment
Mushrooms (possibly healthy or gone bad) - tripping state~suggestive state
PhysioPsychological State-  panic mode alone, or panic mode with food poisoning and no bowel movement or vomiting.  The delusion if you had slept you might not wake up is wrong and likely from your  multifactorial impaired state at the time. 
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All your symptoms are normal for a bad trip.  I can sympathize and empathize with you over that,  but what’s done is done, and a trip is just like a dream, and all dreams fade like the memory of yesterday, don’t they? 

So, if you don’t post a clear series of pictures of you mushrooms- so as to try and discern their actual state- ...and learn to type a paragraph please amigo...until then you likely will be subjected to mere conjecture.

But aren’t you glad to be in the god given Goldilocks ordinary mind state now?  Pretty nice ehh?


Edited by The Blind Ass (04/07/20 10:26 PM)


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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poisoning [Re: potc]
    #26585345 - 04/08/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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potc said:
Don't Store Shrooms In The Fridge!!!!!!!




Getting sick on stale shrooms you ate - what could be finer?  Nothing else to worry about there... :cookiemonster:


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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poisoning [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26585534 - 04/08/20 04:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

When you stored your mushrooms in the fridge, were they not in a sealed, airtight, glass container? Were they just in there uncovered?

Stomach cramps come with the territory when eating mushrooms.

Also, statistically speaking, if one does mushrooms enough, one will eventually have a bad trip.

What I see here is a bad trip that may have been intensified by the weed and stomach problems from mushrooms (possibly enhanced by being stored incorrectly).


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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poisoning [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26586067 - 04/08/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I very much remember the day I thought it would be an enjoyable experience, a gack back 50g of "fresh"  mushrooms.

The trip was wild,  no complaints on that one.
but my guts will never be the same.

As for the experience.
never really had a bad/unpleasant trip.

My Idea of a "bad trip"  is  lacking the visuals,
and instead dealing mostly with "body waves"
and "anxious muscles"

I had one real good grow,  and then 2 where I am not getting the same trip.

I changed to oats
and I changed to adding coffee grounds to the sub.

not my favourite trip,  but far from a bad one.

PS
I can't suggest eating 50grams of raw GT


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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poisoning [Re: potc] * 1
    #26586668 - 04/08/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What about the experience you had made you think you got food poisoning?

There is nothing you described in the OP that sounds like food poisoning :shrug: .

Just sounds like you got a bit too high and you didn't have a "good" time.



Some discomfort in the gut/stomach isn't out of the ordinary with mushrooms. And feeling mentally/emotionally unwell can cause one to feel physically unwell, and visa/versa, there is a connection/relation between the mind & body.





Just because you didn't have a "good" trip doesn't mean something external was the cause. Contaminated/spoiled mushrooms would have likely just made you puke a bunch and get the shits for a couple days or so. I don't think that's what was going on.

This is like people having an unpleasant trip on LSD and then immediately jumping to the conclusion that what they took must have not been LSD just because they didn't have a "good trip".

I've seen this a lot around here over the years...people having an unpleasant or full on "bad" time with a psychedelic and they think there had to be something "wrong" with their mushrooms, or thinking the tab(s) of LSD they took must be some other drug/research chemical, as if mushrooms and LSD are not capable of producing an unpleasant trip.

Psychedelics aren't always all sunshine & rainbows & giggles.





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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poisoning [Re: Northernblades]
    #26586670 - 04/08/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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My Idea of a "bad trip"  is  lacking the visuals,
and instead dealing mostly with "body waves"
and "anxious muscles"

I had one real good grow,  and then 2 where I am not getting the same trip.

I changed to oats
and I changed to adding coffee grounds to the sub.

not my favourite trip,  but far from a bad one.




I had a very anxious trip after adding coffee grounds to my sub. Before anyone says anything about caffeine: It was at least 50/50 decaf and also actually spent, as in made coffee with, meaning most the caffeine should not be in there.
I had trouble breathing either due to a mild allergic reaction or due to hyperventilation. Either way not fun in that state.
I guess there is no way to get invisible contams on your shrooms?
Still I am considering tossing a whole batch.


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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poisoning [Re: Northernblades]
    #26586680 - 04/08/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Northernblades said:

My Idea of a "bad trip"  is  lacking the visuals,
and instead dealing mostly with "body waves"
and "anxious muscles"







I don't think you know what the depths of a bad trip is truly like :lol: .

Not experiencing visuals and having an unpleasant body load has absolutely nothing to do with what I consider to be a bad trip lol.



"I had a bad trip last night"

-Why, what happened?...What was it like?

"I didn't experience any visuals and my body was uncomfortable" 

lol




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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poison [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26586739 - 04/08/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Bad trips can run from various levels of panic to schizophrenia and psychosis and or agonizing physical pains and at worst all the way to:

holy hell im being raped by nightmarish hell dimension entities in a torture dungeon from Event Horizon and the CIA and Sadam Hussein are helping too. 

So yeah,  as exquisitely deep and blissful and “enlightening” and rainbows and light as a trip can be , because of the nature of a psychedelic and our own nature - the opposite is also equally true in the same proportions. Thats part of the law of the unity of opposites ,  both spectrums are equally possible imho/e.

There’s value in both.  But we naturally have an aversion to the spectrum of tripping that involves suffering and unpleasant attributes and crave or desire the states of tripping that involve euphoria and other pleasant attributes.  But this is just a gimmick of duality.  Both are real phenomena likes side of the same coin.

Healthy mushrooms can induce either, it’s largely dependent upon the individual and some adjunctive variables as to which occurs.

So ,  my advice,  don’t play with them to get high like you might cannabis or some other drugs.  Because if you trip enough, chances are you’ll get to experience the aforementioned states both “good” and “bad” (so called) .    But they are both equally revealing of the body-mind, causality, phenomena, and at elucidating the processes of the brain and the Mind and its conscious subconscious and unconscious depths and myths and legends and wisdom within.

Know thyself isn’t just about the pleasant parts or the bliss. Respect, knowledge, experience, and discernment of the primordial powers of the body and mind and nature and it’s capabilities and potential and actual powers is a must.


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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poisoning [Re: openmind]
    #26587024 - 04/08/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Seems like you mock me.
My point is, I have never had, what I would describe as a "bad trip"

Just like there are a lot of "experiences" I would describe as "unpleasant"  without  labelling them "bad" or painful.

For me, a bad trip, is one that wasn't awesome.
A few times I have needed "coping mechanisms"

Seriously I have had worse "trips" on cannabis edibles.
Had some real shitty rides on that stuff :smile:


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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poisoning [Re: Northernblades]
    #26587034 - 04/08/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Not mocking you or anyone, I sympathize and empathize with those who have experienced such twisted states of mind-body.

My motivation for that post was for the  general viewing audience to know what they are potentially getting into, that’s all. :heart:


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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poison [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26590200 - 04/10/20 04:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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So ,  my advice,  don’t play with them to get high like you might cannabis or some other drugs.  Because if you trip enough, chances are you’ll get to experience the aforementioned states both “good” and “bad” (so called) .    But they are both equally revealing of the body-mind, causality, phenomena, and at elucidating the processes of the brain and the Mind and its conscious subconscious and unconscious depths and myths and legends and wisdom within.




I was unsure if I had triggered some allergic reaction of sorts, that could get worse to the point that I need medical attention. I never had symptoms of constricted bronchia before. What am I supposed to learn from that other than maybe having my medication before?
In normal life I am unaffected by this but in the come-up of the trip I had the usual adrenaline response and then this happened.
I am aware that I have not been tortured by machine elves who had a crash course at the CIA but it was still unsettling.


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Re: 1st bad trip, possible food poison [Re: LittleBoard]
    #26590402 - 04/10/20 07:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Indeed, without pics we can’t know,  if you want to be cautious, just throw them out and grow your own.  In 2 months or so you’ll have your own and you can monitor their health and never have to buy from an someone and not know the specifics.

Also, there’s a lot of good information on this site about sterile technique and how to accurately identify healthy and unhealthy mushrooms during their life cycle.  Last thing,  there’s also a lot of good information on proper drying and storage techniques for fungi.  Read up and you will likely never have to eat a potentially bad mush by accident again.  And super lastly, if you follow the above advice and learn all that, and follow proper established techniques to the letter, but you still end up having a a reaction than most likely the case is that your either allergic, or there’s some medical reason why it happens.  If neither of those, you may learn that it was panic and trippiness.

Best to ya brother.


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