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Are these hyphal knots? * 1
    #26584788 - 04/07/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys! This is my first time growing shrooms. I've been reading and looking at lots of pictures, but I would like to get a thumbs up from you just to get sure and get some confidence. Are these hyphal knots?

Im assuming they are, so I got up the FAE. I'm following bod's shoebox tek, so I made some more holes to the plastic bags in order to induce pinning. In addition, I am planning to reduce misting to once per day (I was misting twice) in order to get evaporation and contribute to pin formation. What do you guys think? Am I doing ok?
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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: gabbk]
    #26584820 - 04/07/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Before I Say Anything Else, Answer Me This.

What The Hell Are Those Black Spots?

Edit: Wait A Minute...Are You Asking If The Black Spots Are Hyphal Knots? Dear God, No They Aren't.


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: MpSeph]
    #26584830 - 04/07/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Almost to knotts, they're more like small white balls about pin head size


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: MpSeph]
    #26584843 - 04/07/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

no......... i was refering to those white fluffy balls


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: gabbk]
    #26584850 - 04/07/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The White Balls Are Fine, Completely Normal, You Should Have Pins Soon.👍

But What Are The Black Spots? I've Never Seen Anything Like That Before.

Edit: After Looking Further I Have Come To The Conclusion That The "Black Spots" Are The Damn Substrate & I'm A Stoned Idiot. My Bad.


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: MpSeph]
    #26584859 - 04/07/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)


:cookiemonster:Thems is knots.


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: MpSeph] * 1
    #26584860 - 04/07/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

honestly I have no idea. I assume these black dots could be particles of the cocoa fibre.. reallly i dunno


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: gabbk]
    #26584866 - 04/07/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Oh... so mine are not knots... Are these just stacked mycelium? Should I do something?


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: gabbk] * 1
    #26584874 - 04/07/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I Think It's The Substrate After Looking Further. It Just Looks Weird To Me.


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: gabbk] * 1
    #26584886 - 04/07/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like aerial myc to me. Nothing to worry about. Fluffy myc is usually happy myc. You can try increasing your FAE a little bit to promote knotting and pinning.

Edit: Reread your post and saw you upped your FAE already, so you're on the right track. Steady as she goes, OP.


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: Morbility]
    #26584897 - 04/07/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: BooShow]
    #26584928 - 04/07/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Great! Should I let the substrate dry a few tone colors and then keep it by light misting? Or which would be the correct way to mist it?


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: gabbk]
    #26584955 - 04/07/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I will be the first to admit that I suck at getting moisture dialed in, but you definitely don't want your coir to dry out totally. In some cases I've had coir go hydrophobic and refuse to absorb water after letting it dry out too much. If it gets a little lighter for a bit it's okay, and that's usually the indicator it's thirsty. As long as you don't go overboard and waterlog your shoebox you'll be fine. Shoeboxes also have a tendency to dry out faster than a big mono, so keep that in mind.

If you haven't seen it yet, take a look at CBK's surface conditions thread over here. It's pretty much the defacto reference for getting your moisture situated.


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: Morbility]
    #26585737 - 04/08/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'll check it right now! Thanks for the insight guys!


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: gabbk]
    #26585758 - 04/08/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No, those aren't knots.  Your spawn looks like it was very bacterial.


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: rickyswamps]
    #26585970 - 04/08/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Oh... I tried to do every procedure very cautiously (with SAB, gloves, iso alcohol, syringe flame sterilization, etc...). Or I made some mistake or the syringe had a microorganism or something. Or maybe I've pasteurized the cocoa fibre incorrectly!
Whichever way, what would be the consequences of that 'bacterial' looking growth?


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: gabbk]
    #26586059 - 04/08/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Not much a little bacteria doesn't really hurt much


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: rumfor69]
    #26593676 - 04/11/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Update!

It's eleven days and still looks the same, no knots nor pinning yet. I noticed when I gave it more FAE the growth of these blobs continued a little more. From what I've researched and as rickyswamps suggested here, it seems to be bacterial; aerial mycelium it's slight different (it isn't as bright and don't have that much pores on them so to speak). I've noticed that the vendor of the syringe also had these fluffy blobs when spawning, so I suspect that the source of these was the syringe.
Also read that 3% hydrogen peroxide may be useful to treat bacteria. Should I mist with 3% hydrogen peroxide from now on or would it just ruin mycelial growth?
Thanks in advance!


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: gabbk]
    #26593682 - 04/11/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I recall that at the beginning, the first two days I've been misting with tap water. That could also may be a contributor of the bacteria and the smell of stagnant water when I get close (I don't even have to get a close sniff to smell it, just when I get out the bag is enough). I'm considering to mist next time at the next spawn with destilled water. Would it be a good idea? Do you guys mist with mineral or destilled water?


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Re: Are these hyphal knots? [Re: gabbk]
    #26593725 - 04/11/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No peroxide ever.

It’s definitely bacterial but it could still pin, if there’s no change in another week I’d prob get ready to toss it though.

Next time when you spawn add a little layer of coir to cover up the grains. Like 1/3 inch.


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